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Lokkin4
05-01-17, 11:30
Good looking Spanish chick. A bit to small for my liking. Again average massage (But I give her props for trying) from an above average looking 20 something. Duration was 40 minutes total. Damage was $. Again. I'm not paying higher than that for looking at TATA 's for 5 min.

Hot chicks = Rather lame massages and short on time. HE can be uninspired.

Average to below average= Usually a great massage and a pretty decent ending.

Really amazing in such a big City to have such a lack of talent.

ChicagoCat99
05-01-17, 12:50
Visited the place at Dundee and Milwaukee a few weeks ago. Good table table shower, excellent massage but DIY. I tried for more but it wasn't meant to be. She said the place has been open 3 years and they've never done anything. But it was a great massage. I recommend if you're sore. Unfortunately I can remember her name though.

She had nice legs with sexy black tights and she did allow touching.Thanks for your info.

Legit is fine.

ChicagoCat99
05-01-17, 12:59
Looking to give this place a shot next week. Anyone else give this place a try since this was posted? Did you have a similar experience and are the girls attractive? Thanks again!

Also, I'm assuming this is the 2423 place right? PM is ok with me.

Stay well,

James.Unfortunately, this location is closed and moved to new location, where is Vida massage.

I guess the owner is the same.

I don't like Vida massage since the service was pointless (Kimberly).

And, in my opinion, Vida is not safe location.

Visible storefront.

Only one door.

(Unlocked, no doorbell)

No second door to massage room isle.

Unlocked massage room door.

Apparently, police is on it as well according to other reports.

Let me not go too far.

ChicagoCat99
05-01-17, 14:14
Hey, guys,

When you check Craigslist or back page, if a phone is mixed with letter, never call them!

I had date robbery lately (Katie, Rockford) and found her phone number was like this on BP now.

81 X. Twooneseven. 1303.

(It used to be 815-217-13xx)

BP deleted all of her ads and blocked her name and phone number as Keywords.

And, she re-wrote her ad this way.

I reported it again, but now I see why some people do this.

Hobbyist2016
05-01-17, 14:20
Looking to give this place a shot next week. Anyone else give this place a try since this was posted? Did you have a similar experience and are the girls attractive? Thanks again!

Also, I'm assuming this is the 2423 place right? PM is ok with me.

Stay well,

James.I did try this place. There is only one girl because I called last week everyday and asked who was working and same girl everyday. She is nice and I had a good time. You should take the shower option. I will try again. I think it's 2422.

Good luck and be safe.

JamesTChicago
05-01-17, 16:30
Do you know the new location? Pm me if you'd like. Thanks!

James.


Unfortunately, this location is closed and moved to new location, where is Vida massage.

I guess the owner is the same.

I don't like Vida massage since the service was pointless (Kimberly).



And, in my opinion, Vida is not safe location.

Visible storefront.

Only one door.

(Unlocked, no doorbell)

No second door to massage room isle.

Unlocked massage room door.



Apparently, police is on it as well according to other reports.

Let me not go too far.

SamPerkins420
05-01-17, 19:16
If you like hot and hard massage like me, I recommend King Spa on North ave.

I almost screamed when she massaged my calves.

(The rest of the parts were fine.)Please, for the sake of everyone, don't start an entirely new paragraph with every sentence. Makes your posts extremely long & hard to get through. Like brutally painful to try to read.

MrSmartyPants
05-01-17, 20:18
Dear Mr SmartyPants.

Is this she?

https://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/thp/6107695637.html

I was thinking to try it someday.

It seems she is $10 more expensive for first time client.Lily's great, she's just super nice. (Definitely not a happy ending experience though!) She's a very good professional masseuse, her place is super clean and nice. She usually advertises $50, sometimes $60. (She seems happy with 60 out-the-door). So she winds up being around the same price as Daiva in the same building once you factor in a Daiva tip. (But Daiva is kind of grumpy and unfriendly and her basement studio tends to be freezing cold.) I've gone to Daiva a coupla times when I was in the area and needed my bad back worked on, and Lily wasn't available. I had thought maybe they were related, or friends, both being Lithuanian and running a massage business out of the same building. But they don't even talk.

ChicagoCat99
05-01-17, 20:24
Lily's great, she's just super nice. (Definitely not a happy ending experience though!) She's a very good professional masseuse, her place is super clean and nice. She usually advertises $50, sometimes $60. (She seems happy with 60 out-the-door). So she winds up being around the same price as Daiva in the same building once you factor in a Daiva tip. (But Daiva is kind of grumpy and unfriendly and her basement studio tends to be freezing cold.) I've gone to Daiva a coupla times when I was in the area and needed my bad back worked on, and Lily wasn't available. I had thought maybe they were related, or friends, both being Lithuanian and running a massage business out of the same building. But they don't even talk.Thank you, Man.

I usually pay a lot of tips.

Still, total is like $70-85 even after $25-30 tips.

She can charge me $60 since I will pay $20 tips.

(It matches total $80.)

Let me not stingy all the time.

These people have mortgages to pay.

Besides, they chose legit massage though they know they can make more money.

For the same reasons, I will go to foot massages for a while.

($30 everywhere)

JamesTChicago
05-02-17, 09:15
Looks like she was still posting on Friday. Does anyone know anything more in terms of if she did indeed move?

James.


Do you know the new location? Pm me if you'd like. Thanks!

James.

Nate2012
05-02-17, 21:35
It has been a few months for me at gunn but I have never never left sad.As long as the old mamason remembers you, you will have a happy time.

JamesTChicago
05-02-17, 22:01
I've seen this girl post a lot and I'm wondering if anyone has some info? Any help is much appreciated. Thanks in advance and if you want to PM me that's fine.

http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/relax-and-unwind/50278357

Oh and I'm sorry I always blow up witha bunch of posts/questions and then go dark. It's not often enough that the girl travels.

E2304
05-02-17, 23:52
As long as the old mamason remembers you, you will have a happy time.I have only seen Jeannie. The light colored hair. Very sweet. Dry massage and finish. Enjoyable. She helps me on with my socks and stuff after.

Not Dead Yet
05-03-17, 10:51
I've seen this girl post a lot and I'm wondering if anyone has some info? Any help is much appreciated. Thanks in advance and if you want to PM me that's fine.

http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/relax-and-unwind/50278357

Oh and I'm sorry I always blow up witha bunch of posts/questions and then go dark. It's not often enough that the girl travels.Did a search on the phone number in the ad; went to the other site. Didn't say specifically, but sounds exactly like an experience I had many years ago (Much younger and Much stupider!) at the Girls! Girls! Girls! Place on North Ave. In Glen Ellyn. Total rip.

Ron M
05-03-17, 13:38
Did a search on the phone number in the ad; went to the other site. Didn't say specifically, but sounds exactly like an experience I had many years ago (Much younger and Much stupider!) at the Girls! Girls! Girls! Place on North Ave. In Glen Ellyn. Total rip.Don't walk. Run far far away.

The only thing good about Girls Girls Girls is the song by Motel Crue.

LuckyBastard77
05-06-17, 18:12
Hello, a bit of a newbie to the forum but not to the scene. I'm into Full service places and was wondering if anyone could give me any insight to any places that offer for reasonable prices. (I. E. , $100- $150).

The ones I've come accross so far is CL in rockford, Honey and temptations in Miller. Don't no of any parlors.

If this is not the right for forum for this, please forgive.

ChineseDragon
05-06-17, 19:27
Heard from a few popular providers in the city that it's been real slow. I've been doing my fair share. Anyone know why it's been slow? Thanks.

Castlerae
05-06-17, 20:18
Hello, a bit of a newbie to the forum but not to the scene. I'm into Full service places and was wondering if anyone could give me any insight to any places that offer for reasonable prices. (I. E. , $100- $150).

The ones I've come accross so far is CL in rockford, Honey and temptations in Miller. Don't no of any parlors.

If this is not the right for forum for this, please forgive.Well, if you were at CL in Rockford, the only way you got FS for the quoted price is if you took a half hour visit. An hour (my usual) is. 70 plus the tip for 'services rendered'. ELB, across the street from CL, is another such shop with identical services available for the same price. There are other place in that general area, but prices are higher and in the case of AMP's, you (usually) won't get FS on a first visit. Geneva has a dependable option, but again, slightly out of your price range. Check some of the out-of-Chicago threads for more information.

DMichaels69
05-07-17, 09:52
In general the scene sucks with some exceptions but they are few. I'm waiting for a turn around.


Heard from a few popular providers in the city that it's been real slow. I've been doing my fair share. Anyone know why it's been slow? Thanks.

Bob521
05-07-17, 11:33
The feedback I have gotten centers around a general change in the type and level of enforcement. License checks are now a significant part of enforcement, (vs prostitution stings). The ability to obtain licenses is much harder these days with more schools closing down. And, finally, the new Federal Administration has taken a significantly more aggressive stance with respect to immigration enforcement. So the penalty for messing up is very steep. As a result, people are much more cautious. Take that one step further and it means your odds of getting extras has declined. So perhaps you are less likely to go for a massage. I guess the other trend. Asking for tips up front. Might be the result of supply and demand. If they know you have fewer alternatives, they might be more inclined to get greedy. And, if business is slow, perhaps they try to maximize the cash from the customers that do appear.


In general the scene sucks with some exceptions but they are few. I'm waiting for a turn around.

Ron M
05-07-17, 11:43
Heard from a few popular providers in the city that it's been real slow. I've been doing my fair share. Anyone know why it's been slow? Thanks.In a big market like Chicago there are probably a few reasons;.

Competition from other providers.

Varying prices for services.

Sometimes guys aren't available when a provider is around.

Depending on what a provider is willing to do or not do.

Chicago is a buyer's market. Us guys can pick and choose what provider to play with.

Married guys have to spend time with their wives and kids.

These girls can't expect a constant flow of business on a given day. Back in the day a provider could make decent money doing this. These days not so much.

ChineseDragon
05-07-17, 11:50
The feedback I have gotten centers around a general change in the type and level of enforcement. License checks are now a significant part of enforcement, (vs prostitution stings). The ability to obtain licenses is much harder these days with more schools closing down. And, finally, the new Federal Administration has taken a significantly more aggressive stance with respect to immigration enforcement. So the penalty for messing up is very steep. As a result, people are much more cautious. Take that one step further and it means your odds of getting extras has declined. So perhaps you are less likely to go for a massage. I guess the other trend. Asking for tips up front. Might be the result of supply and demand. If they know you have fewer alternatives, they might be more inclined to get greedy. And, if business is slow, perhaps they try to maximize the cash from the customers that do appear.Yes I hear a lot of spa don't want to hire unlicensed massage therapist so not a lot of young ones out their except older ones. Sign of the times?

Pilatus65
05-07-17, 12:44
The feedback I have gotten centers around a general change in the type and level of enforcement. License checks are now a significant part of enforcement, (vs prostitution stings). The ability to obtain licenses is much harder these days with more schools closing down. And, finally, the new Federal Administration has taken a significantly more aggressive stance with respect to immigration enforcement. So the penalty for messing up is very steep. As a result, people are much more cautious. Take that one step further and it means your odds of getting extras has declined. So perhaps you are less likely to go for a massage. I guess the other trend. Asking for tips up front. Might be the result of supply and demand. If they know you have fewer alternatives, they might be more inclined to get greedy. And, if business is slow, perhaps they try to maximize the cash from the customers that do appear.If true, would not the appropriate responsive business strategy be to exhibit licenses, when they exist, on the walls in the lobby as evidence of the bona fides of the establishment? It would seem that the business with the most licenses, prominently displayed / advertised would be less susceptible to harassment or license checks / enforcement, and thus, be in a competitively more advantageous position in the market.

DMichaels69
05-07-17, 15:08
Some of the recent spa issues could possibly have been avoided if they did not draw attention to themselves. Until the recent issue at the flower shop within 10 minutes of getting in the massage room and worst case end of the massage, anything was offered. A little due diligence can go a long way.


The feedback I have gotten centers around a general change in the type and level of enforcement. License checks are now a significant part of enforcement, (vs prostitution stings). The ability to obtain licenses is much harder these days with more schools closing down. And, finally, the new Federal Administration has taken a significantly more aggressive stance with respect to immigration enforcement. So the penalty for messing up is very steep. As a result, people are much more cautious. Take that one step further and it means your odds of getting extras has declined. So perhaps you are less likely to go for a massage. I guess the other trend. Asking for tips up front. Might be the result of supply and demand. If they know you have fewer alternatives, they might be more inclined to get greedy. And, if business is slow, perhaps they try to maximize the cash from the customers that do appear.

ChineseDragon
05-07-17, 18:07
Some of the recent spa issues could possibly have been avoided if they did not draw attention to themselves. Until the recent issue at the flower shop within 10 minutes of getting in the massage room and worst case end of the massage, anything was offered. A little due diligence can go a long way.What's that have to do about being slow? Lots of guys go for hhr and have to hurry up. Maybe it's the quality of the massage therapist they are too old.

Bob521
05-07-17, 22:16
Oh yes. We do display all licenses, and, in fact, it is required by the village. Background / FBI checks are also required. Hell, they even did a background check on me. Our business strategy is to make sure everybody knows we are legit. When a guy walks in asking for extras and she refuses him, everybody loses. But when a customer, a forum member, comes to our store, he knows he will get a great legit massage from a nice person. Forum members are some of our nicest customers.


If true, would not the appropriate responsive business strategy be to exhibit licenses, when they exist, on the walls in the lobby as evidence of the bona fides of the establishment? It would seem that the business with the most licenses, prominently displayed / advertised would be less susceptible to harassment or license checks / enforcement, and thus, be in a competitively more advantageous position in the market.

Jvaldez
05-07-17, 23:05
Yes. Gave them a try. Provider had a fine set of 36 DDs which came out during the nice HJ. . 60 at the door and. 50 tip = 1. 1 total damage. They have 2 rooms, but the walls don't go all the way to the ceiling, so if there is a monger in the other room, you will hear what's going on and vice versa.Had this dream today. I have been trying to dream of hot latinas but none are near my area. I was left speechless today. The fees were the same as above. What a curvy Latina. Just the way I like them. Curvy MILF with a slim waist.

MeLoveuLonTime
05-08-17, 05:44
Just came across this on the news and wanted to share for those interested. Pine Tree spa apparently got busted.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/burr-ridge/crime/ct-dbr-prostitute-pine-tree-tl-0330-20170327-story.html

DMichaels69
05-08-17, 08:25
And they need to be a lot smarter which probably won't happen.


If true, would not the appropriate responsive business strategy be to exhibit licenses, when they exist, on the walls in the lobby as evidence of the bona fides of the establishment? It would seem that the business with the most licenses, prominently displayed / advertised would be less susceptible to harassment or license checks / enforcement, and thus, be in a competitively more advantageous position in the market.

BlueUc
05-08-17, 14:31
Oh yes. We do display all licenses, and, in fact, it is required by the village. Background / FBI checks are also required. Hell, they even did a background check on me. Our business strategy is to make sure everybody knows we are legit. When a guy walks in asking for extras and she refuses him, everybody loses. But when a customer, a forum member, comes to our store, he knows he will get a great legit massage from a nice person. Forum members are some of our nicest customers.I think by an large legit Chinese spa's have an uphill battle that they will always face. Most men will think that Chinese and / or Korean spa's is a place for HEs, and women will tend to stay away as well. Also I think too as a general belief for me anyways, if the front door is locked and you have to press a door bell and have MMS let you in, that to me is a place for extra services. I know that there are a few exceptions to that, but for the most part if the front door is not locked, and there is a waiting room, and you can see down the hallway, you are at a legit spa.

I would fathom that when most people think about going to get a legit massage they tend to go to the large chain facilities as opposed to a local Chinese spa which can offer great massages.

Bob521
05-08-17, 18:30
You described our place exactly. We have an unlocked door with a fairly large lobby with two large chairs. We serve tea and coffee in addition to water and candy. Mei has actually made lunch for my friends a couple times. You can see down the hall, just as you describe. You can see all this on our web page, and Yelp, Google, and Facebook. The front room is filled with plants. Growing up on a farm in China she is compelled to plant everything she sees. But I must say, its a very pleasant atmosphere, complete with Chinese music and Buddhist chants. Our shopping center neighbors have gotten used to us and they all know we are a clean shop. Even the police are friendly to us. Mei donates to all the local charities, including the police special Olympics.

All that said, it has been a long battle. Some days, like today are slow. Others are quite busy. Yeah, people go to the chains and often get a bad massage. So what gives me comfort is our growing list of regulars, including women. And our 5-star reviews. Thank you again for those reviews and your business. Bob.


I think by an large legit Chinese spa's have an uphill battle that they will always face. Most men will think that Chinese and / or Korean spa's is a place for HEs, and women will tend to stay away as well. Also I think too as a general belief for me anyways, if the front door is locked and you have to press a door bell and have MMS let you in, that to me is a place for extra services. I know that there are a few exceptions to that, but for the most part if the front door is not locked, and there is a waiting room, and you can see down the hallway, you are at a legit spa.

I would fathom that when most people think about going to get a legit massage they tend to go to the large chain facilities as opposed to a local Chinese spa which can offer great massages.

E2304
05-08-17, 21:19
You described our place exactly. We have an unlocked door with a fairly large lobby with two large chairs. We serve tea and coffee in addition to water and candy. Mei has actually made lunch for my friends a couple times. You can see down the hall, just as you describe. You can see all this on our web page, and Yelp, Google, and Facebook. The front room is filled with plants. Growing up on a farm in China she is compelled to plant everything she sees. But I must say, its a very pleasant atmosphere, complete with Chinese music and Buddhist chants. Our shopping center neighbors have gotten used to us and they all know we are a clean shop. Even the police are friendly to us. Mei donates to all the local charities, including the police special Olympics.

All that said, it has been a long battle. Some days, like today are slow. Others are quite busy. Yeah, people go to the chains and often get a bad massage. So what gives me comfort is our growing list of regulars, including women. And our 5-star reviews. Thank you again for those reviews and your business. Bob.On the other hand I did get a chocolate. Tiny cup of water. LOL.

E2304
05-08-17, 21:35
I walked in without an appointment and was met by "Laura" a 30 something attractive and thin enough. 65/60 Massage, extra 10 for "shower" - declined. Very gentle, but in the end thorough and firm enough "dry" massage. Asked to upgrade to 90 min. Ended up paying 180/90 for L1 but a very relaxing massage. (My 60 Tip was frowned upon up front. I didn't begrudge the extra 20.

All in all one of my better experiences. The dry massage was well done. Subtle tease. Adequate roaming allowed without a flinch. (For my benefit I suspect) a professional Chinese MT.

Nate2012
05-08-17, 22:27
Just came across this on the news and wanted to share for those interested. Pine Tree spa apparently got busted.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/burr-ridge/crime/ct-dbr-prostitute-pine-tree-tl-0330-20170327-story.htmlNotice the ages of the three girls who got busted at Pine Tree? 50,43, 37. I find it very funny that all the TER and Rubmap reviews show the girls ages as 20-25 yo. I've been to this place.

Too many times. I used to like the place, lately its been a sex factory. And that damn doorbell!

Their ads are still up on BP.

Nate2012
05-08-17, 22:44
In general the scene sucks with some exceptions but they are few. I'm waiting for a turn around.I may only have a few posts but I've been around all this fun for way too many years. Just starting to post.

My take on what's going on in the escorting and parlor business is:

1. There are alot more girls in this business now than 10 years ago. So they will be slow because its a buyers market here in Chicago.

2. Economy still sucks in Chicago. Hobbyist pool is not growing here to offset all the providers, so prices are dropping.

IMHO the top two buyers markets in the US are LA and Vegas. You can get high quality for low prices. Chicago is close!

Happy hunting.

ApplePiePussy
05-09-17, 00:00
I've only ever had one really good massage from a legit Chinese place. It was called Dao Spa on the southside. Unfortunately they shut down and the girl moved on. She was young and incredibly talented. That said, the overwhelming amount of massages from Chinese girls, whether legit or HE, have been shit. This is probably why Bob's place is so busy. I am ok with spending 70 dollars on a very good legit massage. I'm also ok spending 70 plus tip on a mediocre massage with HE from a young and attractive provider. I become furious when I spend 70 dollars on a mediocre legit massage. There is nothing worse than trying a new Chinese place, where the women are old and unattractive, the massage being mediocre making you think there is an HE coming to at least salvage the experience, and then of course nothing, besides you know, them asking for more tip because that's somehow acceptable in Chinese culture. I have my two places that I go to for a legit massages and they are most definitely not Asian. By and large Europeans give the better quality massages, with some American girls in there as well.

BadDances
05-09-17, 00:42
Just came across this on the news and wanted to share for those interested. Pine Tree spa apparently got busted.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/burr-ridge/crime/ct-dbr-prostitute-pine-tree-tl-0330-20170327-story.htmlYeah I didn't bother going back the first time it was busted. That said I miss Spa 7. It was a hell of a drive to get there but most of the women there were really willing. Hard to find a good AMP these days.

ToplessnCago
05-09-17, 01:25
I am ok with spending 70 dollars on a very good legit massage. I'm also ok spending 70 plus tip on a mediocre massage with HE from a young and attractive provider. I become furious when I spend 70 dollars on a mediocre legit massage.Couldn't agree more with this statement. So far, I have been fortunate to have rec'd mostly options A and B above and credit the reports on this site for helping me choose wisely. Thanks!

Pilatus65
05-09-17, 11:30
Couldn't agree more with this statement. So far, I have been fortunate to have rec'd mostly options A and B above and credit the reports on this site for helping me choose wisely. Thanks!Frankly, when the massage at any place has the therapist going thru the motions or as a mere pretext to the second act if there is one, that is very annoying. So, I'm not so forgiving. I've found the caliber of massage has been on the wane universally, especially at venues that I have given repeat business to. I feel taken for granted. Exploited if you will. As if they don't take my massage interest seriously.

PvdHandyman
05-09-17, 13:40
Will be in Oakbrook for the weekend was wondering if I had to "ring the doorbell" at this spa or if the door would be open? Was thinking about a. 40 tip.

Nated
05-09-17, 23:01
This is a bit long, but whatever, it was a really nice dream and thought I'd share the whole thing.

So I've been reading a little bit about Cindy, thought I'd try it out since I sort of need a massage. This will be only my second AMP visit, first one was back in November in Milwaukee (which was pretty good, I left happy) I left the gym and grabbed some money from the ATM and headed to the car. I decided to see if they were still open, even though it was around 7 ish and check to see if they took credit. I figured I'd at least get a massage out of it if anything, wasn't really expecting much. Gave them a call, Cindy answered and didn't seem very happy about me mentioning credit. She asked if I was coming over and I told her half an hour. Thankfully traffic outbound on the Eisenhower was light since rush hour was over.

So I drive up there, it's quite a bit out of the way from my home and my work LOL, but whatever. I'm not terribly familiar with the area, looking around I had some mixed feelings about driving out there with my car. It's rather nice, and well keeps me from doing the SW thing since it screams "rip me off and jack my shit". I make it out there and it's not very economically developed out there LOL, most shops (99% of them) are closed at 8 pm on a week day and a bunch "for lease" or "for sale". I parked at a meter since it's a fairly busy street, figured wouldn't be a problem (it was fine in the end). Had a smoke and went across the street and finished up out front.

Opened the first door, second was locked with a doorbell and a sign pointing at it that said "Massage. LOL. So I rang the doorbell and Cindy came to the door after a minute and opened up. She's about 5'6", tight little body, decent chest. She was wearing a very low cut house dress, very nice view. She asked if I had called and I said yes and she let me in. She asked how long and I said hour with table shower. I pulled out my credit card and I'd (which she said she needed for CC transactions) and she had me come over to the little office thing. She tries to photocopy my I'd, says the CC company needs it. She can't figure it out so she just hands it back and charges my card $77 for the TS and massage + cc transaction fee ($7 transaction fee LOL). She mentions tip and I say I have cash for tips and smile while staring at her chest. She then takes me to a room just off the hall and tells me to take everything off then leaves to get the table ready.

So the place is slightly run down, carpet kinda dingy I think, it wasn't very well lit, so hard to tell, it wasn't bad though. Stacks of toilet paper rolls, towels, a blinking alarm clock, sink, 2 chairs and coat hooks. Place smells ok though. I didn't bother with any towels or anything and she comes back and grabs a towel then takes my hand to take me into the shower room. She proceeds to tell me to lay on the table on my stomach and I oblige. First thing she says is "you're beautiful, I love your back". I'm fairly in shape, I guess she was pleasantly surprised, or just trying to be nice LOL. She immediately started soaping my back and spent ample amount of time on my ass and reaching downwards. I gave a few moans of approval and she starts telling me how guys have been ripping her off with chargebacks on credit cards. I tell her not to worry. She doesn't spend much time on my back, mostly my ass LOL. She tell me to flip. I'm a little stiff at this point and she immediately grabs little man and starts working him. I was amply surprised LOL, last time I had a TS she asked if it was ok to touch it. She soaps the rest of me up and goes back to rubbing him. She took a good long time making sure I was quite hard, all the while telling me about all the people that have ripped her off with credit cards LOL. She probably spent 5 minute stroking it and then rinsed me off and had me get up and dry off.

We go back to the massage room and she has me sit on the edge of the table. She rinses her mouth a little and washes her hands at the sink then comes over and puts her arms around me and puts her breasts in my face. I was quite surprised at that LOL. She starts caressing my back and telling me more about how people ripped her off with credit cards, but interjects that she loves my skin. I put my hands on her hips and slowly move them up, then I ask if I can touch. She said yes and I felt her great breasts, then I decided fuck it and took them out of her bra and sucked on her nipples a bit. She moaned a little then talked about how some guys were nice and she finished them and they still ripped her off. She said one guy even stole her phone. I said no worries and she asked if I would like services. I asked what was available and she said happy ending or everything. I inquired what was everything and she points between her legs and says "down there". I was like "really? I was a bit taken aback at the fact she was offering FS being a first timer. I said sure, how much? Well I guess I got FS for what she charges for a BJ. She got a phone call and left the room to take it. I looked in my coat while she was out and realized I left the condoms in the car. Almost always carry one on me. So I sat back down and hoped she had one. She comes back and spends a bunch of time telling me about some guy that tried to rape her and how the police found him and locked him up. I figured at this point she's just trying to make an impression that she doesn't fuck around, she's probably slightly nervous about stuff, but she seemed like she really wanted to get fucked LOL.

Anyways, she produces a condom and slips it on and starts going down. She's got some good technique for a covered. I usually don't like covered BJ, but she was decent at it. I was quite relieved she had her own, but they are too tight:/ She then stands up and tells me she wants me to fuck her and grabs a pillow and has me stand next to the table. She lays down and spreads for me and slips me in. She wraps her legs around me and starts moaning as we do the deed. I think she may have even cum at one point LOL, certainly felt like it, had a good grip at one point.

When it was all over she wrapped her arms around me and thanked me, she smiled and hugged me for a bit, then the damn doorbell rang. She got up and got dressed and let the next client in and took him to his room while I got dressed. She came back and told me I had to come back again, I said I will, but next time I should probably get a massage too and laughed. She left and dealt with the guy then came back and sat on the floor next to me while I tied my combat boots (extra long laces, takes a minute LOL). She said she liked the boots and then she tugged at my pants to make sure they weren't caught on my boots and got up. She hugged me and went to kiss me on the lips, I wasn't expecting that either and it ended up being half on her cheek LOL. Now she could have been just trying to get a new repeat customer and being nice, but I kinda think she liked it as much as I did.

Needless to say, about 45 minutes, no massage, very strange preoccupation with being ripped off with credit cards, but I think the extras were worth the money. I will definitely be repeating, and probably soon. Make sure she gets her money guys, don't be like the other guys that did charge backs LOL. I would pay cash to skip the half hour of credit card story.

Normal Guy
05-10-17, 00:28
Recommendations on where to meet Latinas downtown or nearby?

Thanks -.

Norm.

Normal Guy
05-10-17, 01:02
Any info on this place? Recommendations on girls?

I was there a year ago and enjoyed it, but was hoping for an update.

Thanks -.

Norm.

Wenger
05-10-17, 06:32
Which King was this? Unfortunately there's a few in the area and it sounds like you had a great time. Was it this one http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/sexy-asian-girls-massage-at-king-spa-in-oak-park-il-708-980-7357/49605947

-w.


This is a bit long, but whatever, it was a really nice dream and thought I'd share the whole thing.

So I've been reading a little bit about Cindy, thought I'd try it out since I sort of need a massage. This will be only my second AMP visit, first one was back in November in Milwaukee (which was pretty good, I left happy) I left the gym and grabbed some money from the ATM and headed to the car. I decided to see if they were still open, even though it was around 7 ish and check to see if they took credit. I figured I'd at least get a massage out of it if anything, wasn't really expecting much. Gave them a call, Cindy answered and didn't seem very happy about me mentioning credit. She asked if I was coming over and I told her half an hour. Thankfully traffic outbound on the Eisenhower was light since rush hour was over.

So I drive up there, it's quite a bit out of the way from my home and my work LOL, but whatever. I'm not terribly familiar with the area, looking around I had some mixed feelings about driving out there with my car. It's rather nice, and well keeps me from doing the SW thing since it screams "rip me off and jack my shit". I make it out there and it's not very economically developed out there LOL, most shops (99% of them) are closed at 8 pm on a week day and a bunch "for lease" or "for sale". I parked at a meter since it's a fairly busy street, figured wouldn't be a problem (it was fine in the end). Had a smoke and went across the street and finished up out front.

Opened the first door, second was locked with a doorbell and a sign pointing at it that said "Massage. LOL. So I rang the doorbell and Cindy came to the door after a minute and opened up. She's about 5'6", tight little body, decent chest. She was wearing a very low cut house dress, very nice view. She asked if I had called and I said yes and she let me in. She asked how long and I said hour with table shower. I pulled out my credit card and I'd (which she said she needed for CC transactions) and she had me come over to the little office thing. She tries to photocopy my I'd, says the CC company needs it. She can't figure it out so she just hands it back and charges my card $77 for the TS and massage + cc transaction fee ($7 transaction fee LOL). She mentions tip and I say I have cash for tips and smile while staring at her chest. She then takes me to a room just off the hall and tells me to take everything off then leaves to get the table ready.

So the place is slightly run down, carpet kinda dingy I think, it wasn't very well lit, so hard to tell, it wasn't bad though. Stacks of toilet paper rolls, towels, a blinking alarm clock, sink, 2 chairs and coat hooks. Place smells ok though. I didn't bother with any towels or anything and she comes back and grabs a towel then takes my hand to take me into the shower room. She proceeds to tell me to lay on the table on my stomach and I oblige. First thing she says is "you're beautiful, I love your back". I'm fairly in shape, I guess she was pleasantly surprised, or just trying to be nice LOL. She immediately started soaping my back and spent ample amount of time on my ass and reaching downwards. I gave a few moans of approval and she starts telling me how guys have been ripping her off with chargebacks on credit cards. I tell her not to worry. She doesn't spend much time on my back, mostly my ass LOL. She tell me to flip. I'm a little stiff at this point and she immediately grabs little man and starts working him. I was amply surprised LOL, last time I had a TS she asked if it was ok to touch it. She soaps the rest of me up and goes back to rubbing him. She took a good long time making sure I was quite hard, all the while telling me about all the people that have ripped her off with credit cards LOL. She probably spent 5 minute stroking it and then rinsed me off and had me get up and dry off.

We go back to the massage room and she has me sit on the edge of the table. She rinses her mouth a little and washes her hands at the sink then comes over and puts her arms around me and puts her breasts in my face. I was quite surprised at that LOL. She starts caressing my back and telling me more about how people ripped her off with credit cards, but interjects that she loves my skin. I put my hands on her hips and slowly move them up, then I ask if I can touch. She said yes and I felt her great breasts, then I decided fuck it and took them out of her bra and sucked on her nipples a bit. She moaned a little then talked about how some guys were nice and she finished them and they still ripped her off. She said one guy even stole her phone. I said no worries and she asked if I would like services. I asked what was available and she said happy ending or everything. I inquired what was everything and she points between her legs and says "down there". I was like "really? I was a bit taken aback at the fact she was offering FS being a first timer. I said sure, how much? Well I guess I got FS for what she charges for a BJ. She got a phone call and left the room to take it. I looked in my coat while she was out and realized I left the condoms in the car. Almost always carry one on me. So I sat back down and hoped she had one. She comes back and spends a bunch of time telling me about some guy that tried to rape her and how the police found him and locked him up. I figured at this point she's just trying to make an impression that she doesn't fuck around, she's probably slightly nervous about stuff, but she seemed like she really wanted to get fucked LOL.

Anyways, she produces a condom and slips it on and starts going down. She's got some good technique for a covered. I usually don't like covered BJ, but she was decent at it. I was quite relieved she had her own, but they are too tight:/ She then stands up and tells me she wants me to fuck her and grabs a pillow and has me stand next to the table. She lays down and spreads for me and slips me in. She wraps her legs around me and starts moaning as we do the deed. I think she may have even cum at one point LOL, certainly felt like it, had a good grip at one point.

When it was all over she wrapped her arms around me and thanked me, she smiled and hugged me for a bit, then the damn doorbell rang. She got up and got dressed and let the next client in and took him to his room while I got dressed. She came back and told me I had to come back again, I said I will, but next time I should probably get a massage too and laughed. She left and dealt with the guy then came back and sat on the floor next to me while I tied my combat boots (extra long laces, takes a minute LOL). She said she liked the boots and then she tugged at my pants to make sure they weren't caught on my boots and got up. She hugged me and went to kiss me on the lips, I wasn't expecting that either and it ended up being half on her cheek LOL. Now she could have been just trying to get a new repeat customer and being nice, but I kinda think she liked it as much as I did.

Needless to say, about 45 minutes, no massage, very strange preoccupation with being ripped off with credit cards, but I think the extras were worth the money. I will definitely be repeating, and probably soon. Make sure she gets her money guys, don't be like the other guys that did charge backs LOL. I would pay cash to skip the half hour of credit card story.

DMichaels69
05-10-17, 08:20
This is customer service. She should give a master class to many of the robotic zombies out there.


Which King was this? Unfortunately there's a few in the area and it sounds like you had a great time. Was it this one http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/sexy-asian-girls-massage-at-king-spa-in-oak-park-il-708-980-7357/49605947

-w.


This is a bit long, but whatever, it was a really nice dream and thought I'd share the whole thing.

So I've been reading a little bit about Cindy, thought I'd try it out since I sort of need a massage. This will be only my second AMP visit, first one was back in November in Milwaukee (which was pretty good, I left happy) I left the gym and grabbed some money from the ATM and headed to the car. I decided to see if they were still open, even though it was around 7 ish and check to see if they took credit. I figured I'd at least get a massage out of it if anything, wasn't really expecting much. Gave them a call, Cindy answered and didn't seem very happy about me mentioning credit. She asked if I was coming over and I told her half an hour. Thankfully traffic outbound on the Eisenhower was light since rush hour was over.

So I drive up there, it's quite a bit out of the way from my home and my work LOL, but whatever. I'm not terribly familiar with the area, looking around I had some mixed feelings about driving out there with my car. It's rather nice, and well keeps me from doing the SW thing since it screams "rip me off and jack my shit". I make it out there and it's not very economically developed out there LOL, most shops (99% of them) are closed at 8 pm on a week day and a bunch "for lease" or "for sale". I parked at a meter since it's a fairly busy street, figured wouldn't be a problem (it was fine in the end). Had a smoke and went across the street and finished up out front.

Opened the first door, second was locked with a doorbell and a sign pointing at it that said "Massage. LOL. So I rang the doorbell and Cindy came to the door after a minute and opened up. She's about 5'6", tight little body, decent chest. She was wearing a very low cut house dress, very nice view. She asked if I had called and I said yes and she let me in. She asked how long and I said hour with table shower. I pulled out my credit card and I'd (which she said she needed for CC transactions) and she had me come over to the little office thing. She tries to photocopy my I'd, says the CC company needs it. She can't figure it out so she just hands it back and charges my card $77 for the TS and massage + cc transaction fee ($7 transaction fee LOL). She mentions tip and I say I have cash for tips and smile while staring at her chest. She then takes me to a room just off the hall and tells me to take everything off then leaves to get the table ready.

So the place is slightly run down, carpet kinda dingy I think, it wasn't very well lit, so hard to tell, it wasn't bad though. Stacks of toilet paper rolls, towels, a blinking alarm clock, sink, 2 chairs and coat hooks. Place smells ok though. I didn't bother with any towels or anything and she comes back and grabs a towel then takes my hand to take me into the shower room. She proceeds to tell me to lay on the table on my stomach and I oblige. First thing she says is "you're beautiful, I love your back". I'm fairly in shape, I guess she was pleasantly surprised, or just trying to be nice LOL. She immediately started soaping my back and spent ample amount of time on my ass and reaching downwards. I gave a few moans of approval and she starts telling me how guys have been ripping her off with chargebacks on credit cards. I tell her not to worry. She doesn't spend much time on my back, mostly my ass LOL. She tell me to flip. I'm a little stiff at this point and she immediately grabs little man and starts working him. I was amply surprised LOL, last time I had a TS she asked if it was ok to touch it. She soaps the rest of me up and goes back to rubbing him. She took a good long time making sure I was quite hard, all the while telling me about all the people that have ripped her off with credit cards LOL. She probably spent 5 minute stroking it and then rinsed me off and had me get up and dry off.

We go back to the massage room and she has me sit on the edge of the table. She rinses her mouth a little and washes her hands at the sink then comes over and puts her arms around me and puts her breasts in my face. I was quite surprised at that LOL. She starts caressing my back and telling me more about how people ripped her off with credit cards, but interjects that she loves my skin. I put my hands on her hips and slowly move them up, then I ask if I can touch. She said yes and I felt her great breasts, then I decided fuck it and took them out of her bra and sucked on her nipples a bit. She moaned a little then talked about how some guys were nice and she finished them and they still ripped her off. She said one guy even stole her phone. I said no worries and she asked if I would like services. I asked what was available and she said happy ending or everything. I inquired what was everything and she points between her legs and says "down there". I was like "really? I was a bit taken aback at the fact she was offering FS being a first timer. I said sure, how much? Well I guess I got FS for what she charges for a BJ. She got a phone call and left the room to take it. I looked in my coat while she was out and realized I left the condoms in the car. Almost always carry one on me. So I sat back down and hoped she had one. She comes back and spends a bunch of time telling me about some guy that tried to rape her and how the police found him and locked him up. I figured at this point she's just trying to make an impression that she doesn't fuck around, she's probably slightly nervous about stuff, but she seemed like she really wanted to get fucked LOL.

Anyways, she produces a condom and slips it on and starts going down. She's got some good technique for a covered. I usually don't like covered BJ, but she was decent at it. I was quite relieved she had her own, but they are too tight:/ She then stands up and tells me she wants me to fuck her and grabs a pillow and has me stand next to the table. She lays down and spreads for me and slips me in. She wraps her legs around me and starts moaning as we do the deed. I think she may have even cum at one point LOL, certainly felt like it, had a good grip at one point.

When it was all over she wrapped her arms around me and thanked me, she smiled and hugged me for a bit, then the damn doorbell rang. She got up and got dressed and let the next client in and took him to his room while I got dressed. She came back and told me I had to come back again, I said I will, but next time I should probably get a massage too and laughed. She left and dealt with the guy then came back and sat on the floor next to me while I tied my combat boots (extra long laces, takes a minute LOL). She said she liked the boots and then she tugged at my pants to make sure they weren't caught on my boots and got up. She hugged me and went to kiss me on the lips, I wasn't expecting that either and it ended up being half on her cheek LOL. Now she could have been just trying to get a new repeat customer and being nice, but I kinda think she liked it as much as I did.

Needless to say, about 45 minutes, no massage, very strange preoccupation with being ripped off with credit cards, but I think the extras were worth the money. I will definitely be repeating, and probably soon. Make sure she gets her money guys, don't be like the other guys that did charge backs LOL. I would pay cash to skip the half hour of credit card story.

Nated
05-10-17, 08:42
Which King was this? Unfortunately there's a few in the area and it sounds like you had a great time. Was it this one http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/sexy-asian-girls-massage-at-king-spa-in-oak-park-il-708-980-7357/49605947

-w.Oak Park.

I can't guarantee she'll offer FS, from reading other accounts in this thread she offers BJ for the price she charged me FS.

Lokkin4
05-10-17, 12:46
I think this is her ACT (Per Se) She spouted the same shit to me. She's a big gambler from what she told me. This is here way of making you feel bad and tipping well.

OPIllini
05-10-17, 13:30
Any info on this place? Recommendations on girls?

I was there a year ago and enjoyed it, but was hoping for an update.

Thanks -.

Norm.Was there end of March. Got 4-hand massage from Amy and another lady (can't remember her name). Nice massage with standard finish. $. 75 total damage (tipped each lady. 4).

OPIllini
05-10-17, 14:03
I've been frequenting AMPs on and off for the last 6 years. When I first started there was a genuine feeling of excitement I had with each visit in anticipation of the finish at the end of the massage. I thought the services were overall a nice experience.

But reading the accounts of the veterans here. I. e. Those who went to AMPs in the 70's /80's /90's. It seems as if the glory days of AMPs in the Chicago area are long gone. And when I see that there was a lot more fun in those days than there is now, I wonder if we will ever see those days again. I know AMP's in New York, Southern California and the Bay Area have long been hotspots and will likely continue to be. So, I ask you guys. Can Chicago become just as good as those areas? Or are we doomed to overall mediocrity? Of course I know there are a few gold nuggets in Chicagoland. Nice-looking talent with quality services at reasonable prices (and are grateful for the tips). But largely it seems like most ladies are homely and older, the services are not that great, and they act sad if you tip the standard amount.

I know this has been said before, but one possible way of turning the tide in our favor is sticking with standard tip rates. That means 40 for HJ, 60 for BJ, and 100 for FS. If the lady does something extra like a foot or scalp massage then you can add another 10 or 20. But we as mongers need to hold the line on these rates. If they don't want to accept the standard tips, we can take our business elsewhere. Let's see if we can get this AMP scene turned around here in Chicagoland!

TonyDe
05-10-17, 15:08
The state of AMP industry here just plain sucks. Places like Dallas, Philly, So Cal to name a couple areas are so much better its sad. I agree holding the line on tipping would go a long way on improving service and walking out if the woman is just plain unattractive would bring in better lookers. Also the areas I've mentioned have a set price for all inclusive service, no haggling. I had a Korean doll at a Philly AMP years back that gave awesome service and went way over time limit I had to throw a tip her way. On the way out Mama joked that its lucky its a slow time of day.

ApplePiePussy
05-10-17, 15:26
I've been frequenting AMPs on and off for the last 6 years. When I first started there was a genuine feeling of excitement I had with each visit in anticipation of the finish at the end of the massage. I thought the services were overall a nice experience.

But reading the accounts of the veterans here. I. e. Those who went to AMPs in the 70's /80's /90's. It seems as if the glory days of AMPs in the Chicago area are long gone. And when I see that there was a lot more fun in those days than there is now, I wonder if we will ever see those days again. I know AMP's in New York, Southern California and the Bay Area have long been hotspots and will likely continue to be. So, I ask you guys. Can Chicago become just as good as those areas? Or are we doomed to overall mediocrity? Of course I know there are a few gold nuggets in Chicagoland. Nice-looking talent with quality services at reasonable prices (and are grateful for the tips). But largely it seems like most ladies are homely and older, the services are not that great, and they act sad if you tip the standard amount.

I know this has been said before, but one possible way of turning the tide in our favor is sticking with standard tip rates. That means 40 for HJ, 60 for BJ, and 100 for FS. If the lady does something extra like a foot or scalp massage then you can add another 10 or 20. But we as mongers need to hold the line on these rates. If they don't want to accept the standard tips, we can take our business elsewhere. Let's see if we can get this AMP scene turned around here in Chicagoland!I don't see it getting better and I'll tell you why. Chicago is not a primary location target for the girls coming from overseas. Almost all Chinese girls have heard of New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Texas, and Florida. Very few have heard of Chicago. And it being in the center of the country, with brutal winters, is not very appealing to them. Furthermore, while we have a decent sized Chinatown, it is rundown and miserable to live in. The Chinese here in general are not happy people. The restaurants they run are filthy and the service is poor. Contrast that with San Francisco where the mood is the opposite and the Chinese are happy and you get the feeling that Chicago is a place where they have to be, not want to be. There are a lot of older providers here because they are not wanted anywhere else. They know they can get work here in their 40's and 50's and not being in shape. The demand is there because we don't have a choice and because a lot of hobbyists in Chicago have not hobbied in other cities and don't know how good it can be, and how bad it is here. They feed the older ones and the older ones keep coming. Furthermore, the young ones, who know they are rare and invaluable, usually act accordingly, by demanding larger tips and cutting short on the massage time and quality. They are there simply to get you off for the maximum amount of tip. If they are nice and give a thorough massage it is because they are new and will likely change in time. Either that or they will leave. I've recently stopped going to AMP's. I did actually have a really good last session with a young provider who gave an excellent massage. The place was known as a legit place so I didn't expect anything and yet got an HE. It is always better when it's not expected. At any rate, I figured I would end it on a positive experience and move on. The problem with AMP's is that on average I'm getting an experience like the one I just described once out of every 5 to 7 sessions. You are essentially paying to have mediocre to outright bad sessions 4 out of 5 times or more.

The Asian Apartment Scene is equally in decline. Girls from warm climates like Thailand and the Philippines do not want to spend miserable winters in Chicago. There is no fresh supply of talent. You have some Korean and Thai places that are mediocre and every once in a while land a gem but for the most part keep the same girls for extended periods of time because they can't find new young and attractive ones. Again, the ratio of really good times to bad times is not good. And for me, a really good time is a girl in her early 20's with a great body that offers an enthusiastic experience. You may think that's asking for a lot but that is the norm in a lot of other places. Once you have had that then there's no point in dealing with the 40 year olds with sag. Unless, of course, you are an older gentleman yourself, and in which case that is what you are looking for.

LMP's in general in Chicago are not very good. There is no real massage. The girls are older and lazy. They upcharge everything and cut you short on time. In places like Miami and Texas, you get a much better experience, but of course that's because they like living there and there is more supply.

EMP's in Chicago usually give you the best overall massage. They take pride in it. However, most of the talent has been here for decades. Most of the girls are in their 40's or older. The young Euro talent that comes to Chicago is not looking to work in an EMP. They would rather work in the 180/240 places where guys are paying escort prices for HJ's. Or they are part of the 400/ hr high end escort circle. Nobody who is young and attractive wants to give a $65 one hour massage to get a $40 tip when they can just fake it for 20 minutes and pull your dick for 180/ hhr. There is also the BP euro motel girls who I am a fan of but those are extremely YMMV and can lead to disappointment if you are expecting too much.

Chicago is seeing a large amount of young 18-22 year old escort talent, both American and European girls, but those are 400/ hr, and if you are in the Massage Parlor Section reading this, are probably not your thing.

What's interesting is that Montreal and Toronto have significantly better scenes and their winters are just as brutal. The difference is that things are legal there and so there is no risk of getting busted. Chicago is regressive in that sense and every week you see a bust in the papers. So if you add up the factors: cold winters, no real geographical interests besides a big lake, far from home, over aggressive criminal justice system, and a crappy Asian community, you can understand why the scene is unlikely to improve in the short term and will likely only get worse.

DMichaels69
05-10-17, 16:39
I've said this before about Chicago AMP scene. It has come and gone here. I've cut down huge on visits because of all the reasons that have been talked about here before.


The state of AMP industry here just plain sucks. Places like Dallas, Philly, So Cal to name a couple areas are so much better its sad. I agree holding the line on tipping would go a long way on improving service and walking out if the woman is just plain unattractive would bring in better lookers. Also the areas I've mentioned have a set price for all inclusive service, no haggling. I had a Korean doll at a Philly AMP years back that gave awesome service and went way over time limit I had to throw a tip her way. On the way out Mama joked that its lucky its a slow time of day.

Jayp80
05-10-17, 16:49
I think this is her ACT (Per Se) She spouted the same shit to me. She's a big gambler from what she told me. This is here way of making you feel bad and tipping well.Who would reverse a $75 credit card transaction to an AMP. It's only $75 and a bank will only allow you to pull something like that a few times. You'd have to say someone stole my card and have to get a new one or talk to someone on the phone about how you went to the MP but didn't authorize that much.

Alfonso82
05-10-17, 21:15
Oak Park.

I can't guarantee she'll offer FS, from reading other accounts in this thread she offers BJ for the price she charged me FS.How much was total damage including tip?

Not Dead Yet
05-10-17, 22:38
I don't see it getting better and I'll tell you why. Chicago is not a primary location target for the girls coming from overseas. Almost all Chinese girls have heard of New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Texas, and Florida. Very few have heard of Chicago. And it being in the center of the country, with brutal winters, is not very appealing to them. Furthermore, while we have a decent sized Chinatown, it is rundown and miserable to live in. The Chinese here in general are not happy people. The restaurants they run are filthy and the service is poor. Contrast that with San Francisco where the mood is the opposite and the Chinese are happy and you get the feeling that Chicago is a place where they have to be, not want to be. There are a lot of older providers here because they are not wanted anywhere else. They know they can get work here in their 40's and 50's and not being in shape. The demand is there because we don't have a choice and because a lot of hobbyists in Chicago have not hobbied in other cities and don't know how good it can be, and how bad it is here. They feed the older ones and the older ones keep coming. Furthermore, the young ones, who know they are rare and invaluable, usually act accordingly, by demanding larger tips and cutting short on the massage time and quality. They are there simply to get you off for the maximum amount of tip. If they are nice and give a thorough massage it is because they are new and will likely change in time. Either that or they will leave. I've recently stopped going to AMP's. I did actually have a really good last session with a young provider who gave an excellent massage. The place was known as a legit place so I didn't expect anything and yet got an HE. It is always better when it's not expected. At any rate, I figured I would end it on a positive experience and move on. The problem with AMP's is that on average I'm getting an experience like the one I just described once out of every 5 to 7 sessions. You are essentially paying to have mediocre to outright bad sessions 4 out of 5 times or more.

The Asian Apartment Scene is equally in decline. Girls from warm climates like Thailand and the Philippines do not want to spend miserable winters in Chicago. There is no fresh supply of talent. You have some Korean and Thai places that are mediocre and every once in a while land a gem but for the most part keep the same girls for extended periods of time because they can't find new young and attractive ones. Again, the ratio of really good times to bad times is not good. And for me, a really good time is a girl in her early 20's with a great body that offers an enthusiastic experience. You may think that's asking for a lot but that is the norm in a lot of other places. Once you have had that then there's no point in dealing with the 40 year olds with sag. Unless, of course, you are an older gentleman yourself, and in which case that is what you are looking for.

LMP's in general in Chicago are not very good. There is no real massage. The girls are older and lazy. They upcharge everything and cut you short on time. In places like Miami and Texas, you get a much better experience, but of course that's because they like living there and there is more supply.

EMP's in Chicago usually give you the best overall massage. They take pride in it. However, most of the talent has been here for decades. Most of the girls are in their 40's or older. The young Euro talent that comes to Chicago is not looking to work in an EMP. They would rather work in the 180/240 places where guys are paying escort prices for HJ's. Or they are part of the 400/ hr high end escort circle. Nobody who is young and attractive wants to give a $65 one hour massage to get a $40 tip when they can just fake it for 20 minutes and pull your dick for 180/ hhr. There is also the BP euro motel girls who I am a fan of but those are extremely YMMV and can lead to disappointment if you are expecting too much.

Chicago is seeing a large amount of young 18-22 year old escort talent, both American and European girls, but those are 400/ hr, and if you are in the Massage Parlor Section reading this, are probably not your thing.

What's interesting is that Montreal and Toronto have significantly better scenes and their winters are just as brutal. The difference is that things are legal there and so there is no risk of getting busted. Chicago is regressive in that sense and every week you see a bust in the papers. So if you add up the factors: cold winters, no real geographical interests besides a big lake, far from home, over aggressive criminal justice system, and a crappy Asian community, you can understand why the scene is unlikely to improve in the short term and will likely only get worse.This somehow got me thinking about my last couple years of active duty in the Army in San Antonio in the early 70's. Then, it really sucked there, at least for me. No internet then or even nightlife magazines that I could find. Occasionally found a newspaper want ad. Would not consider an escort service -- afraid that someone might find out who I was.

Had to drive around looking for storefronts or billboards. I did a LOT of driving around. . . Never even got a happy ending in that town; too stupid to try something different, except for the one time I managed to pick up a black SW. Felt like I was jerking off with a brillo pad. Didn't go with another black woman until many years later, and she was definitely from the other end of the spectrum. Found my first HE successes by driving one hour each way to Austin and some MP's there. About two months before I came back home, I discovered the Chicken Ranch in La Grange TX, half way to Houston. Managed to partake three times, and could even choose from the available talent. It was great! Couple of years later I read that they had closed. RIP.

Bad as things are here in the Chicago area, I can't help thinking that, for me at least, it's still a lot better than it used to be. I just remembered something I heard many years ago, about how even bad pussy is still pussy!

ChicagoCat99
05-11-17, 02:07
Oak Park.

I can't guarantee she'll offer FS, from reading other accounts in this thread she offers BJ for the price she charged me FS.Thank you for sharing.

I think she gave you a bit of discount since you skipped massage.

It may sound ridiculous, but what I miss the most is her massage.

The hardest massage I've ever got in full time.

I advertised strongly here since it was very slow though she was only employee.

But, if she is OK, I may have to stay away a bit if she gave FS for first timer.

I feel it's a bit risky and police won't stand still forever.

I wish I can get only massage ($60) with a bit of tip ($20).

But, I am not sure if she likes it since she obviously want more money from extras.



P.S. :

Cindy is 50 years old average looking Chinese woman.

Let me not exaggerate it.

I did it to help her a little.

ChineseDragon
05-11-17, 11:37
Any new providers you can recommend?

Pilatus65
05-11-17, 13:45
I don't see it getting better and I'll tell you why. Chicago is not a primary location target for the girls coming from overseas. Almost all Chinese girls have heard of New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Texas, and Florida. Very few have heard of Chicago. And it being in the center of the country, with brutal winters, is not very appealing to them. Furthermore, while we have a decent sized Chinatown, it is rundown and miserable to live in. The Chinese here in general are not happy people. The restaurants they run are filthy and the service is poor. Contrast that with San Francisco where the mood is the opposite and the Chinese are happy and you get the feeling that Chicago is a place where they have to be, not want to be. There are a lot of older providers here because they are not wanted anywhere else. They know they can get work here in their 40's and 50's and not being in shape. The demand is there because we don't have a choice and because a lot of hobbyists in Chicago have not hobbied in other cities and don't know how good it can be, and how bad it is here. They feed the older ones and the older ones keep coming. Furthermore, the young ones, who know they are rare and invaluable, usually act accordingly, by demanding larger tips and cutting short on the massage time and quality. They are there simply to get you off for the maximum amount of tip. If they are nice and give a thorough massage it is because they are new and will likely change in time. Either that or they will leave. I've recently stopped going to AMP's. I did actually have a really good last session with a young provider who gave an excellent massage. The place was known as a legit place so I didn't expect anything and yet got an HE. It is always better when it's not expected. At any rate, I figured I would end it on a positive experience and move on. The problem with AMP's is that on average I'm getting an experience like the one I just described once out of every 5 to 7 sessions. You are essentially paying to have mediocre to outright bad sessions 4 out of 5 times or more.

The Asian Apartment Scene is equally in decline. Girls from warm climates like Thailand and the Philippines do not want to spend miserable winters in Chicago. There is no fresh supply of talent. You have some Korean and Thai places that are mediocre and every once in a while land a gem but for the most part keep the same girls for extended periods of time because they can't find new young and attractive ones. Again, the ratio of really good times to bad times is not good. And for me, a really good time is a girl in her early 20's with a great body that offers an enthusiastic experience. You may think that's asking for a lot but that is the norm in a lot of other places. Once you have had that then there's no point in dealing with the 40 year olds with sag. Unless, of course, you are an older gentleman yourself, and in which case that is what you are looking for..Couple suggestions that could make the Chicago AMP scene better:

1) Language barrier and reliance on it as a crutch for non-communication;.

2) Lack of warmth / superficial interaction;.

3) Failure to leverage and cultivate repeat business / loyal customers.

ThrilHouse
05-11-17, 16:35
I think fifty is pushing the limit. She appeared to be over 55. Ton of makeup and was the cliche AMP provider with the language etc. I did enjoy her upper torso as that was recently worked on. Massage was mediocre at best. The concerning part was she wouldn't stop talking about what she did with clients and stuff. For the finale I had to close my eyes in all honesty. In my scale she would be a four. Service was the bright side. Then again I did try and schedule with a much better looking he place so maybe my expectations where high.


Thank you for sharing.

I think she gave you a bit of discount since you skipped massage.

It may sound ridiculous, but what I miss the most is her massage.

The hardest massage I've ever got in full time.

I advertised strongly here since it was very slow though she was only employee.

But, if she is OK, I may have to stay away a bit if she gave FS for first timer.

I feel it's a bit risky and police won't stand still forever.

I wish I can get only massage ($60) with a bit of tip ($20).

But, I am not sure if she likes it since she obviously want more money from extras.



P.S. :

Cindy is 50 years old average looking Chinese woman.

Let me not exaggerate it.

I did it to help her a little.

Happy Meals
05-11-17, 18:00
Stopped by Mercy this week and wasn't allowed to go up by doorman. I was told that they were out for next few weeks. Really odd.

MyEndo
05-12-17, 00:02
New around here, any feedback on Relax Spa near McCormick. I am planning to check it out. Any other options in the area would be good to know as well. Looking for a decent massage followed by some good service if possible.I visited Relax Spa 4 times in the last 2 years. It's on busy street. Just buzz and someone will let you in. I've always been let in by the person giving me the massage. I had Amy twice. She is super cute and younger with great body. I've always had the same menu, 40/ hhr, 60 hr. Extra 60 for HJ, $ for nude HF, $140 extra for FS. I've always opted for first option. 2nd two times were Yuyu, older, look OK, very nice tits. I've left happy every time.

ChicagoCat99
05-12-17, 00:10
I think fifty is pushing the limit. She appeared to be over 55. Ton of makeup and was the cliche AMP provider with the language etc. I did enjoy her upper torso as that was recently worked on. Massage was mediocre at best. The concerning part was she wouldn't stop talking about what she did with clients and stuff. For the finale I had to close my eyes in all honesty. In my scale she would be a four. Service was the bright side. Then again I did try and schedule with a much better looking he place so maybe my expectations where high.Probably 55.

But, strangely perky breasts (augmentation?)

I visited her again on the way back from Bloomingdale trail (about 9:30 PM).

She did not recognized me at first and said she needs to close it soon since she needs to go gamble.

Then, her phone rang and I heard man's voice.

She finally recognized me and said she can stay for me.

I told her I will see her some other time since I do not want to interrupt her plan.

Generously, she let me kiss her and play with her breasts a bit.

And, I touched her hips and vagina a little bit.

On the way out, I shaked my fists as if she ruined my plan and she smiled.





I feel she is a laidback person.

We live in extremely uptight society.

If you touch someone's breasts, you go to jail. If you are late for 5 minutes, you are fired and etc.

I did not feel that from her.

Anyway, she suggested reasonable price for full service if that's the case without massage.

Al Bundy78
05-12-17, 03:58
I think this is her ACT (Per Se) She spouted the same shit to me. She's a big gambler from what she told me. This is here way of making you feel bad and tipping well.I think we all have been told different versions of the same story. She has always been the same, talks too much and makes a good experience not so good. I have heard the gambling stories since she was on 26th. They don't phase me anymore.

Has anyone tried Coco, the girl that helps her out on the weekends?

TenderFoot1
05-12-17, 11:05
Looking to hit one up near O'Hare today any suggestions?

Kiyakubuke
05-12-17, 17:45
Senior member from Nashville, going to be visiting in mid June for a few days, staying near O'hare. Any good, reliable massage parlors nearby?

Looking through the forum seems like the scene may not be at it's peak. Has to be better than Nashville though. There is literally nothing here. All the AMP's and similar were closed years ago, closest scene we have is Knoxville, and it's not great. I have to take every advantage of travel I can get.

Thanks.

Trailer12
05-12-17, 18:04
Senior member from Nashville, going to be visiting in mid June for a few days, staying near O'hare. Any good, reliable massage parlors nearby?

Looking through the forum seems like the scene may not be at it's peak. Has to be better than Nashville though. There is literally nothing here. All the AMP's and similar were closed years ago, closest scene we have is Knoxville, and it's not great. I have to take every advantage of travel I can get.

Thanks.Best to look in the mount prospect board. Not far from O'hare. My guess is a less than ten dollar uber. Exercise might be the best option.

Starks
05-12-17, 19:20
Who would reverse a $75 credit card transaction to an AMP. It's only $75 and a bank will only allow you to pull something like that a few times. You'd have to say someone stole my card and have to get a new one or talk to someone on the phone about how you went to the MP but didn't authorize that much.There are plenty of people that would, especially if they don't think there will be any recourse against them. I have seen her a couple of times, and she is always talking about how customers are rude and pushy with her. I think that there are men who go there and realize that she is a one woman shop and take advantage where they wouldn't at other places because with other places there is that feeling that they have some muscle behind them.

By the way, how does this weekend girl look?

BenBeck
05-13-17, 02:18
Looks like Sunny on Armitage is closed.

Anyone have any 411?

Not answering the phone for a couple days (happens sometimes when busy) and I wandered by and it was dark today around 3 p.

The window was partially boarded up like it had been broken and not yet repaired.

Anyone know what's up? Moreover, where did Ivy go if they are closed??

BB.

Normal Guy
05-14-17, 08:45
Any place downtown with Latin girls?

Chidell
05-15-17, 14:48
I think fifty is pushing the limit. She appeared to be over 55. Ton of makeup and was the cliche AMP provider with the language etc. I did enjoy her upper torso as that was recently worked on. Massage was mediocre at best. The concerning part was she wouldn't stop talking about what she did with clients and stuff. For the finale I had to close my eyes in all honesty. In my scale she would be a four. Service was the bright side. Then again I did try and schedule with a much better looking he place so maybe my expectations where high.Tried the place out. Massage was good. Although the biggest problem for me is to stay in a room for a relaxing hour massage and having to deal with the smell of nothing but cigarettes and conversion filled with the words "tip"every few minutes. Almost every few minutes was told about how some customerw don't tip for even a massage etc.

DMichaels69
05-15-17, 14:58
As more of the onion is peeled on this, sounds like a PITA.


Tried the place out. Massage was good. Although the biggest problem for me is to stay in a room for a relaxing hour massage and having to deal with the smell of nothing but cigarettes and conversion filled with the words "tip"every few minutes. Almost every few minutes was told about how some customerw don't tip for even a massage etc.

TJSterling
05-16-17, 01:17
I haven't contributed much, but thought I should start. Thanks to Barbarossa for suggesting Judy at Lilly Spa on Belmont. I'm a big fan of table showers, which is why I gave this place a try. Called ahead to ask if Judy was working and she was. When I got there she took me back to the room where I got undressed. She looks a bit older, like late 40's or more, but dressed like she's trying to be younger. Once in my towel she led me back to the table shower room, and without hesitating took my towel off me. Great time, lots of time cleaning my ass and junk. Dried me off and then back to the room. Mediocre massage, but I really wasn't there for that. Before the flip I got a quick FUTB. Love that. As for the HE she really knew her stuff. She had one hand making me happy, the other caressing my nipple, and her tongue working my other nipple. Allowed my hand to roam a bit behind her. All in all, a great experience.

About a month later I went back. This time I got Sophia--younger, like maybe late 20's. Somewhat attractive, with a petite frame. Unfortunately the TS was broke, so she asked if I wanted a regular shower. Sure. But sadly, I was all alone in it. Massage was okay. Left happy, but felt like I got more from Judy.

7 for hr + 4.

Any suggestions for more FUTB? Would love to try that again.

ThrilHouse
05-16-17, 12:22
It gets the job done. Some like the conversation. I prefer the quiet tease and the excitement of maybe getting nothing at all. Kind of ruins mood when tip and boom boom come out in the conversation.


As more of the onion is peeled on this, sounds like a PITA.

Rudy1234
05-16-17, 20:15
Anybody been to happy latinas on addison recently? Have tried twice but front door is always locked and windows are covered. I saw a recent report but any info on times to visit?

AsianK
05-16-17, 20:49
I will be visiting your city soon. After a little online research I found a blogger claiming 5 destinations to try out. A few of the locations have been confirmed with RM. I am curious about the intersecting street locations. Do these places really offer variety (no. Of MT) at an in call location? I have been to toronto / philly / dallas / Houston where you get a full line up and choose your massuse. PMs are welcomed since it seems like your city is in a state of emergency.

Ready Freddie
05-16-17, 21:58
I haven't contributed much, but thought I should start. Thanks to Barbarossa for suggesting Judy at Lilly Spa on Belmont. I'm a big fan of table showers, which is why I gave this place a try. Called ahead to ask if Judy was working and she was. When I got there she took me back to the room where I got undressed. She looks a bit older, like late 40's or more, but dressed like she's trying to be younger. Once in my towel she led me back to the table shower room, and without hesitating took my towel off me. Great time, lots of time cleaning my ass and junk. Dried me off and then back to the room. Mediocre massage, but I really wasn't there for that. Before the flip I got a quick FUTB. Love that. As for the HE she really knew her stuff. She had one hand making me happy, the other caressing my nipple, and her tongue working my other nipple. Allowed my hand to roam a bit behind her. All in all, a great experience.

About a month later I went back. This time I got Sophia--younger, like maybe late 20's. Somewhat attractive, with a petite frame. Unfortunately the TS was broke, so she asked if I wanted a regular shower. Sure. But sadly, I was all alone in it. Massage was okay. Left happy, but felt like I got more from Judy.

7 for hr + 4.

Any suggestions for more FUTB? Would love to try that again.My report is from a visit sometime last year, and I know the girl is gone now, but maybe it's worth a try. I went to a place that was just about 2 blocks north of the Empty Bottle on Western Avenue. There was a Chinese MT there at the time, probably in her mid-40's. She was friendly and cute but a bit chubby. She was the only person there, which was true for both of the visits I made there. Anyway, I had gone once before and had a really good massage and standard finish. I believe the damage was $45 + $40 tip. No table shower. I elected for a half hour massage because I was short on time and because I don't like paying over $100 if I'm not getting FS. On my second visit, after the flip, she climbed on the table and went between my legs. I was thinking BJ. She proceeded with a HJ and surprised me with a finger up my butt. I had never experienced it, and had she asked me I may have said no. But she just did it, and it felt good. I was done quickly.

I went back a third time to see if I could get the same treatment, and she was not there. Instead, there was a very chubby latina there. She looked relatively young, but she was not even cute in my opinion, so I bailed from there.

I went to another place, about 2 or 3 blocks south of the Empty Bottle, to a Spa or Hair Place that had advertised on BP for massage. I met an attractive yet shapely latina MT. The ass was a little bigger than I was used to. She was new and did not really know what she was doing. I got a half-assed massage for 5 minutes and then she flipped me over and went to town. At least she took her dress off so she was topless and with nice almost-thong panties. Nothing else but HJ on the menu, but that might change. I don't know if she is still doing massage there, and she was not the same person who works the front doing hair. I know this second report is irrelevant to the FUTB post, but I wanted to complete my story about this area.

Member #6027
05-17-17, 15:30
A question for those of you who are married and wear a wedding ring: Do you leave your ring on or take it off before the session? Whenever I go to an AMP I usually take off my wedding ring before I get there.

I know this is kind of stupid. The MT is doing a job, and she doesn't care if I'm married or not. Hell, chances are she's got a husband or boyfriend and that's not stopping her from giving out a HE. Still though, my ring comes off before I go to the AMP.

During my last massage the MT was massaging my hands and obviously noticed the callus right where my ring would be. She asked if I was married and I lied and said "no. " I don't think her HJ would have been any different if I had told the truth.

Am I the only one who goes through this charade?

Elmwoood
05-17-17, 16:24
Anybody been to happy latinas on addison recently? Have tried twice but front door is always locked and windows are covered. I saw a recent report but any info on times to visit?Same thing with me both doors locked but another monger said open and a good place.

Toe Knee
05-17-17, 19:38
A question for those of you who are married and wear a wedding ring: Do you leave your ring on or take it off before the session? Whenever I go to an AMP I usually take off my wedding ring before I get there.

I know this is kind of stupid. The MT is doing a job, and she doesn't care if I'm married or not. Hell, chances are she's got a husband or boyfriend and that's not stopping her from giving out a HE. Still though, my ring comes off before I go to the AMP.

During my last massage the MT was massaging my hands and obviously noticed the callus right where my ring would be. She asked if I was married and I lied and said "no. " I don't think her HJ would have been any different if I had told the truth.

Am I the only one who goes through this charade?I wear it when I've got massages and fucked providers. And my FWBs.

Sam Singer
05-17-17, 23:08
A question for those of you who are married and wear a wedding ring: Do you leave your ring on or take it off before the session? Whenever I go to an AMP I usually take off my wedding ring before I get there.

I know this is kind of stupid. The MT is doing a job, and she doesn't care if I'm married or not. Hell, chances are she's got a husband or boyfriend and that's not stopping her from giving out a HE. Still though, my ring comes off before I go to the AMP.

During my last massage the MT was massaging my hands and obviously noticed the callus right where my ring would be. She asked if I was married and I lied and said "no. " I don't think her HJ would have been any different if I had told the truth.

Am I the only one who goes through this charade?I do such things sometimes so I do not have to have such conversations with providers. One time, the provider was nosy enough to ask why I use her services. Fortunately, I had the presence of mind to blurt out a thing or two I want her to do that I don't get as the reason. Boy, she was super motivated to do those things and one of them was BBBJ COF.

Beast42
05-17-17, 23:54
I know this is kind of stupid. The MT is doing a job, and she doesn't care if I'm married or not. Hell, chances are she's got a husband or boyfriend and that's not stopping her from giving out a HE. Still though, my ring comes off before I go to the AMP.
For starters, I don't often wear my ring and when I do, I try to remember to take it off before I get on the table. Once an MT (Lisa from Crystal Lake / Wauconda) asked if I was married and I just smiled. She said, "Your wife very lucky woman". I had no idea what to say other than, "Yes, she is". LOL.

Scooter1
05-18-17, 09:49
Good morning,

In town this weekend staying near Ohare but will have a car. Does can anyone recommend an independent, mature provider that is busty? I hate the AMPs personally. Just a cool lady over 30 that gives a great ending. PM is totally fine. Thanks so much.

Datsurman
05-18-17, 11:29
Whether it is true or not, a wedding ring is a signal that you're probably a halfway decent guy as women figure that there is someone from their team who has vetted you and passed her test.

It tells them you're probably not a lunatic, probably not a drug addict, probably are reasonably clean, probably don't have any crazy STDs, probably are financially stable, and probably don't want any trouble. Because trouble at a massage parlor is the last thing a dude with a wife and kids wants to encounter.

BTW, many women are very competitive. As someone else already posted, you can say something like "my wife is really great blah blah blah but she doesn't do xyz. The chick will be motivated to do xyz to one-up your wife especially if she thinks you're willing to show your appreciation with a decent tip.


A question for those of you who are married and wear a wedding ring: Do you leave your ring on or take it off before the session? Whenever I go to an AMP I usually take off my wedding ring before I get there.

I know this is kind of stupid. The MT is doing a job, and she doesn't care if I'm married or not. Hell, chances are she's got a husband or boyfriend and that's not stopping her from giving out a HE. Still though, my ring comes off before I go to the AMP.

During my last massage the MT was massaging my hands and obviously noticed the callus right where my ring would be. She asked if I was married and I lied and said "no. " I don't think her HJ would have been any different if I had told the truth.

Am I the only one who goes through this charade?

E6671
05-18-17, 20:04
A question for those of you who are married and wear a wedding ring: Do you leave your ring on or take it off before the session? Whenever I go to an AMP I usually take off my wedding ring before I get there.

I know this is kind of stupid. The MT is doing a job, and she doesn't care if I'm married or not. Hell, chances are she's got a husband or boyfriend and that's not stopping her from giving out a HE. Still though, my ring comes off before I go to the AMP.

During my last massage the MT was massaging my hands and obviously noticed the callus right where my ring would be. She asked if I was married and I lied and said "no. " I don't think her HJ would have been any different if I had told the truth.

Am I the only one who goes through this charade?I find that honesty about being married does not change anything other than if a MT is willing to see you on the side. I always get a WeChat or other I'm contact with providers. Some I have contacted on the side and some have said no because I am married. No big deal for me though. I have a girlfriend in Shanghai and one in Bangkok. Both know I am married and are okay with it. If I lied to them and said I was not married they would want to get married and move to the US. If I wasn't married I would bring either one of them here in a heartbeat.

Paleface
05-22-17, 01:13
I've been frequenting AMPs on and off for the last 6 years. When I first started there was a genuine feeling of excitement I had with each visit in anticipation of the finish at the end of the massage. I thought the services were overall a nice experience.

But reading the accounts of the veterans here. I. e. Those who went to AMPs in the 70's /80's /90's. It seems as if the glory days of AMPs in the Chicago area are long gone. And when I see that there was a lot more fun in those days than there is now, I wonder if we will ever see those days again. I know AMP's in New York, Southern California and the Bay Area have long been hotspots and will likely continue to be. So, I ask you guys. Can Chicago become just as good as those areas? Or are we doomed to overall mediocrity? Of course I know there are a few gold nuggets in Chicagoland. Nice-looking talent with quality services at reasonable prices (and are grateful for the tips). But largely it seems like most ladies are homely and older, the services are not that great, and they act sad if you tip the standard amount.

I know this has been said before, but one possible way of turning the tide in our favor is sticking with standard tip rates. That means 40 for HJ, 60 for BJ, and 100 for FS. If the lady does something extra like a foot or scalp massage then you can add another 10 or 20. But we as mongers need to hold the line on these rates. If they don't want to accept the standard tips, we can take our business elsewhere. Let's see if we can get this AMP scene turned around here in Chicagoland!OPIllini: I agree with everything you said in this post. The scene here really is pathetic. And yes, we are tipping way too much for half assed service we get. Your rates are the going rates: 40,60, 100. You don't get more if you pay more. So why do we wonder why the scene here is so bad? I don't know.

I don't think any one has raised this question, so I'll ask it. Do the girls have a web site that works like ours? If so, they are talking about us. The young ones can easily get in there and see that the work is just not for them. Does such a site exist? We could learn a lot from reading it. They sure read our stuff. I know that for a fact. PM if you know anything.

IMHO some of it might be our fault. Look around. There are loads of young Asians in Chicago. They are students, grocery store clerks, waitresses, young mothers, whatever. They come here with nothing, and they need to make money. And yet, they stay away from us. I have heard our "girls" complain that we have bad breath, stinky asses, arm pits, smelly feet. We have dead fish decomposing in our stomachs, hamburger / fries, alcohol. Some us are so fat that a pretty young Asian girl cannot imagine it, much less do it. YMMV, but even the old ones we complain about do not particularly like us. They do it anyway. Money.

(I probably wouldn't rant like this in a crowded room. I do apologize to anyone I have offended. But I sure would like to hear their side of it.).

BlueUc
05-22-17, 08:55
OPIllini: I agree with everything you said in this post. The scene here really is pathetic. And yes, we are tipping way too much for half assed service we get. Your rates are the going rates: 40,60, 100. You don't get more if you pay more. So why do we wonder why the scene here is so bad? I don't know.

I don't think any one has raised this question, so I'll ask it. Do the girls have a web site that works like ours? If so, they are talking about us. The young ones can easily get in there and see that the work is just not for them. Does such a site exist? We could learn a lot from reading it. They sure read our stuff. I know that for a fact. PM if you know anything.

IMHO some of it might be our fault. Look around. There are loads of young Asians in Chicago. They are students, grocery store clerks, waitresses, young mothers, whatever. They come here with nothing, and they need to make money. And yet, they stay away from us. I have heard our "girls" complain that we have bad breath, stinky asses, arm pits, smelly feet. We have dead fish decomposing in our stomachs, hamburger / fries, alcohol. Some us are so fat that a pretty young Asian girl cannot imagine it, much less do it. YMMV, but even the old ones we complain about do not particularly like us. They do it anyway. Money.

(I probably wouldn't rant like this in a crowded room. I do apologize to anyone I have offended. But I sure would like to hear their side of it.).I have gotten to know a MT pretty well and she mentioned she has a login to this site and was curious to see what the other women are doing as well as what they are charging. So some might see other women are getting more money for services rendered and figure why should I do the same for less. If guys are paying the higher price they must not mind too much and gets to be the norm.

Chicago2342
05-22-17, 09:11
Chicagorubs.com

Anyone got info on this they are willing to share? Feel free to PM. Looked through thread, didn't find stuff.

Looks like you can book through agent but then when you try to call / text directly you get no response. Appears to be massage or nuru.

Any information is appreciated.

DMichaels69
05-22-17, 09:51
One of the issues (AMP's) is mongers are throwing money at these ladies for sub par service or giving into the extortion so they know there are enough guys who will pay. If it changes it will be a slow change. There have been some reports here of mongers pushing back so there is hope.


OPIllini: I agree with everything you said in this post. The scene here really is pathetic. And yes, we are tipping way too much for half assed service we get. Your rates are the going rates: 40,60, 100. You don't get more if you pay more. So why do we wonder why the scene here is so bad? I don't know.

I don't think any one has raised this question, so I'll ask it. Do the girls have a web site that works like ours? If so, they are talking about us. The young ones can easily get in there and see that the work is just not for them. Does such a site exist? We could learn a lot from reading it. They sure read our stuff. I know that for a fact. PM if you know anything.

IMHO some of it might be our fault. Look around. There are loads of young Asians in Chicago. They are students, grocery store clerks, waitresses, young mothers, whatever. They come here with nothing, and they need to make money. And yet, they stay away from us. I have heard our "girls" complain that we have bad breath, stinky asses, arm pits, smelly feet. We have dead fish decomposing in our stomachs, hamburger / fries, alcohol. Some us are so fat that a pretty young Asian girl cannot imagine it, much less do it. YMMV, but even the old ones we complain about do not particularly like us. They do it anyway. Money.

(I probably wouldn't rant like this in a crowded room. I do apologize to anyone I have offended. But I sure would like to hear their side of it.).

Pilatus65
05-22-17, 12:08
One of the issues (AMP's) is mongers are throwing money at these ladies for sub par service or giving into the extortion so they know there are enough guys who will pay. If it changes it will be a slow change. There have been some reports here of mongers pushing back so there is hope.Has there ever been any attempt to consolidate consumer knowledge or information in a manner where the AMP staff can read and learn what service expectations are, what qualities are valued, what circumstances are not in favor, which businesses are noteworthy for excellence or value in service, which are not? There are several options maybe. Something like a AMP Top 10 List, maybe a Mongers' Bill of Rights, etc. I'm not sure that AMP therapists have the patience or gumption to visit this site often enough or to drill down on search threads to really acquire the kind of working knowledge or perspective that appears on here "over time".

Lets Play 2
05-22-17, 13:42
A question for those of you who are married and wear a wedding ring: Do you leave your ring on or take it off before the session? Whenever I go to an AMP I usually take off my wedding ring before I get there.

I know this is kind of stupid. The MT is doing a job, and she doesn't care if I'm married or not. Hell, chances are she's got a husband or boyfriend and that's not stopping her from giving out a HE. Still though, my ring comes off before I go to the AMP.

During my last massage the MT was massaging my hands and obviously noticed the callus right where my ring would be. She asked if I was married and I lied and said "no. " I don't think her HJ would have been any different if I had told the truth.

Am I the only one who goes through this charade?I don't wear a ring to an appointment because I'm afraid I'll lose it. If they ask if I'm married I usually just smile and say not tonight, I think they gives them the hint as to what I'm looking for and we go on to have our fun from there.

Paleface
05-22-17, 18:06
Did I miss something? 10 busts in one day?

DNA Info has an article today: "Massage Parlor Crackdown Called 'Operation Hot Towel' Busts 10 Locations".

Cut and paste the link below.

https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20170522/beverly/massage-parlor-crackdown-called-operation-hot-towel-busts-10-locations/?utm_source=Breaking+News&utm_campaign=0 c1 e9 deb67-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2017_05_22&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_4 dc25 bbf9 a-0 c1 e9 deb67-176024885.

Paleface
05-22-17, 18:09
One of the issues (AMP's) is mongers are throwing money at these ladies for sub par service or giving into the extortion so they know there are enough guys who will pay. If it changes it will be a slow change. There have been some reports here of mongers pushing back so there is hope.You are right about extortion. One of them got hold of my dick recently and literally shook me down. I gave her what she wanted.

DMichaels69
05-22-17, 21:21
If this keeps happening, its over and done with. RIP AMP's RIP.


Did I miss something? 10 busts in one day?

DNA Info has an article today: "Massage Parlor Crackdown Called 'Operation Hot Towel' Busts 10 Locations".

Cut and paste the link below.

https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20170522/beverly/massage-parlor-crackdown-called-operation-hot-towel-busts-10-locations/?utm_source=Breaking+News&utm_campaign=0 c1 e9 deb67-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2017_05_22&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_4 dc25 bbf9 a-0 c1 e9 deb67-176024885.

Not Dead Yet
05-22-17, 22:26
Did I miss something? 10 busts in one day?

DNA Info has an article today: "Massage Parlor Crackdown Called 'Operation Hot Towel' Busts 10 Locations".

Cut and paste the link below.

https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20170522/beverly/massage-parlor-crackdown-called-operation-hot-towel-busts-10-locations/?utm_source=Breaking+News&utm_campaign=0 c1 e9 deb67-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2017_05_22&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_4 dc25 bbf9 a-0 c1 e9 deb67-176024885.AKA: politicians and cops.

Yeah, they sure do have the right priorities!

More murders in Chicago than New York and Los Angeles combined, with over four times our population. We have stronger gun laws than any other state, but those geniuses say that even stronger ones are needed. Granted, the cops won't do what the politicians don't let them, but at some point, after not doing the tough jobs for quite some time, even the good cops will get soft ("Soft? And be reluctant to go after the more dangerous ones. Better to harass the Asian girls who can't fight back.

As I recently posted under Lombard, massage Parlor Reports:

"What -- you think that a Gang task force wants to actually go after gangs? Could be dangerous.

"They only want bragging rights for belonging to a tough sounding unit (I'm with the Gang Task Force, muthafucka!) Only want to go after people who can't fight back. Bunch of pussies, and not the good kind.

"BTW: We consider this to be almost 100% a victim-less crime. Consenting adults and all that. Are we really a free society if we cannot decide what to do with our own bodies?

"The politicians say that the working girls are victims, and they must be right, since they make the laws. So, arrest the victims and take away their livelihood? WTF is the logic of that?

Truthfu11
05-22-17, 22:36
Did I miss something? 10 busts in one day?

DNA Info has an article today: "Massage Parlor Crackdown Called 'Operation Hot Towel' Busts 10 Locations".

Cut and paste the link below.

https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20170522/beverly/massage-parlor-crackdown-called-operation-hot-towel-busts-10-locations/?utm_source=Breaking+News&utm_campaign=0 c1 e9 deb67-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2017_05_22&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_4 dc25 bbf9 a-0 c1 e9 deb67-176024885."The new ordinance goes after business owners or those profiting from the illegal enterprise while offering help to those who get mixed up in this illicit profession ".

WOW. Maybe I can get help as a victim of being "mixed-up" in this activity!

OF Charlie
05-22-17, 23:04
Did I miss something? 10 busts in one day?

DNA Info has an article today: "Massage Parlor Crackdown Called 'Operation Hot Towel' Busts 10 Locations".

Cut and paste the link below.

https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20170522/beverly/massage-parlor-crackdown-called-operation-hot-towel-busts-10-locations/?utm_source=Breaking+News&utm_campaign=0 c1 e9 deb67-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2017_05_22&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_4 dc25 bbf9 a-0 c1 e9 deb67-176024885."It also puts other safeguards in place, including requiring all massage parlor employees are 18 or older. ".

LOL. I don't think he needs to worry about this. If anything, there should be a safeguard that no women older than 40 are allowed to work in a massage parlor, other than being a mamasan.

StanleyStankas
05-23-17, 08:03
"It also puts other safeguards in place, including requiring all massage parlor employees are 18 or older. ".

LOL. I don't think he needs to worry about this. If anything, there should be a safeguard that no women older than 40 are allowed to work in a massage parlor, other than being a mamasan.Too funny and very true! Or that at the entrance there isn't an old grandma laying down on a bare mattress in a small side room! Yep I don't think anybody will have to be I d 'd. On another note all of these stings are about publicity for a municipalities police dept and or politicians. It does nothing to clean up human sex trafficking. I am still convinced that many of these stings are because some dudes wife follows hubby one day and he winds up at a place like this so she drops the dime on her own husband for revenge! Well if she kept her interest in him and made sex interesting again for him he wouldn't need these kinds of places! I believe providers are still taking most of their money from married dudes not getting any! I am not married and don't want to be or have a steady gf. I tell people I am paying for the time I don't have to be around them!

Chad213
05-23-17, 13:08
Has anyone tried this place? http://chicago.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/affordable-luxury-a-gift-from-us-special-discount-for-today-only/62201438.

MrSmartyPants
05-23-17, 13:39
If this keeps happening, its over and done with. RIP AMP's RIP.Yep, they're practically extinct in several suburban areas. Fuckers!

SouthBend
05-23-17, 14:16
Hi guys senior member from northern Indiana. I'll be visiting chicago tomorrow. I'm hoping to go to a AMP with FS and not just a HJ place. We got those here and kinda bore with them LOL. Let me know either here or pm. Damages isn't an issue. I rather pay a little more then go to bad place. I tried reading the forum but there is so much talk about wedding rings and other stuff I found it hard to find a place I would like LOL. I'm also not very interested in the apartment girl scene since I don't want to to thru the hassle of being screen since I'm only going for one day. Thanks in advance for any info.

Ready Freddie
05-23-17, 16:08
Hi guys senior member from northern Indiana. I'll be visiting chicago tomorrow. I'm hoping to go to a AMP with FS and not just a HJ place. We got those here and kinda bore with them LOL. Let me know either here or pm. Damages isn't an issue. I rather pay a little more then go to bad place. I tried reading the forum but there is so much talk about wedding rings and other stuff I found it hard to find a place I would like LOL. I'm also not very interested in the apartment girl scene since I don't want to to thru the hassle of being screen since I'm only going for one day. Thanks in advance for any info.On Backpage, you will find dozens of ads for Asian girls in or around the Chinatown area. You may see streets named in the ad, such as Archer, Canal, Western, Ashland, and sometimes they just say Chinatown. You will not get the girls in the pictures.

These are more like apartment girls, but you will not need screening. They will text you address, and you go there. You will not likely get much of a massage, if that is what you are looking for. Hhr is something like $130 or $140 (I don't do hhr so I'm not 100% sure), but 1 hour is $160. You should get FS either way, only one will be rushed. I've had good experiences.

Hrodebert
05-23-17, 17:00
Right on the money!


"It also puts other safeguards in place, including requiring all massage parlor employees are 18 or older. ".

LOL. I don't think he needs to worry about this. If anything, there should be a safeguard that no women older than 40 are allowed to work in a massage parlor, other than being a mamasan.

Hrodebert
05-23-17, 17:02
Hit the nail on the head. 84 spas inspected. 11 closed. 178 violation of license, etc. issued.


Too funny and very true! Or that at the entrance there isn't an old grandma laying down on a bare mattress in a small side room! Yep I don't think anybody will have to be I d 'd. On another note all of these stings are about publicity for a municipalities police dept and or politicians. It does nothing to clean up human sex trafficking. I am still convinced that many of these stings are because some dudes wife follows hubby one day and he winds up at a place like this so she drops the dime on her own husband for revenge! Well if she kept her interest in him and made sex interesting again for him he wouldn't need these kinds of places! I believe providers are still taking most of their money from married dudes not getting any! I am not married and don't want to be or have a steady gf. I tell people I am paying for the time I don't have to be around them!

MWiggly2
05-23-17, 17:12
Hi guys senior member from northern Indiana. I'll be visiting chicago tomorrow. I'm hoping to go to a AMP with FS and not just a HJ place. We got those here and kinda bore with them LOL. Let me know either here or pm. Damages isn't an issue. I rather pay a little more then go to bad place. I tried reading the forum but there is so much talk about wedding rings and other stuff I found it hard to find a place I would like LOL. I'm also not very interested in the apartment girl scene since I don't want to to thru the hassle of being screen since I'm only going for one day. Thanks in advance for any info.They all got busted. Sorry Chicago is closed.

https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20170522/beverly/massage-parlor-crackdown-called-operation-hot-towel-busts-10-locations

Article cites online forums. I guess we are our own worst enemy.

Chitownbjg
05-23-17, 19:46
http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/ald-oshea-proposes-crackdown-on-massage-parlors/amp/

TronCat
05-23-17, 19:48
Recently had a dream about going to Kings Spa.

Was. Not good.

The rub down was less than half assed because she was tired from w / e happened last night. I'm thinking maybe she should get a partner if working last night makes her too tired to even try to do a decent job the next afternoon. The moment we met she seemed uncomfortable (guessing me being a young chocolate man who "looks 18!" according to her had something to do with it. Even though I'm knocking on 30). Extras were painfully meh in all sense of the word.

Again, could be because of her discomfort or maybe it's her normal, idk. YMMV.

I think I'm done with AMP. Haven't had a good rubdown since I left San Fran and the extras there were better by a fat mile. Guess I'll try going back to LMPs.

ChicagoCat99
05-23-17, 21:03
https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/thp/6142428495.html

A surprisingly newish and nice house.

Nice area.

I did not wear towel and she did not mind.

She massaged every neck bone and neck. She crushed my bones to fix my posture.

Strangely, she kind of shook my body by massaging.

When I was lying on my stomach, she shook my hips rhythmically. So, I felt I am having sex on a towel or something.

This is the first time a woman offered HE in her own house.

She took time to massage penis for erection and kept stroking it even after climax was over.

A little bit of leg massage after that.

Here is the shocking part.

When I got out after tipping her, I saw a huge wedding photo with her white American husband on the wall of living room.

And, I found a Jaguar parked next to my car when I came out.

(I parked in front of their three door garage, not on the street.)

I believe her husband grants this since I can see the facility has been there for a while (years).

Massage $40 + Tip $60 = Total $100.

In general, it was very unique experience.



P.S.:

I saw a lot of human body maps on the wall.

She pointed and massaged all those on my face and upper area.

If you have actual bone or back problem, she may help you.

If you intend something sensual, just do not wear towel unless it's ready obviously.

When I think about it, I should have not wore it at Grace's place since I had to search for it.

Starks
05-23-17, 22:37
Too funny and very true! Or that at the entrance there isn't an old grandma laying down on a bare mattress in a small side room! Yep I don't think anybody will have to be I d 'd. On another note all of these stings are about publicity for a municipalities police dept and or politicians. It does nothing to clean up human sex trafficking. I am still convinced that many of these stings are because some dudes wife follows hubby one day and he winds up at a place like this so she drops the dime on her own husband for revenge! Well if she kept her interest in him and made sex interesting again for him he wouldn't need these kinds of places! I believe providers are still taking most of their money from married dudes not getting any! I am not married and don't want to be or have a steady gf. I tell people I am paying for the time I don't have to be around them!I hear the second time the old Singapore Spa in Arlington Heights was busted, it was because a woman on the town council, or whatever they have there, had hired a P. I to follow her husband and he ended up at Singapore. Then she ran to Tom Dart and he set up a sting and brought along a camera crew.

Starks
05-23-17, 22:39
By the way, what were the places that were busted? They said 11, but only mentioned 7?

GMan25
05-24-17, 00:40
AKA: politicians and cops.

Yeah, they sure do have the right priorities!

More murders in Chicago than New York and Los Angeles combined, with over four times our population. We have stronger gun laws than any other state, but those geniuses say that even stronger ones are needed. Granted, the cops won't do what the politicians don't let them, but at some point, after not doing the tough jobs for quite some time, even the good cops will get soft ("Soft? And be reluctant to go after the more dangerous ones. Better to harass the Asian girls who can't fight back.

As I recently posted under Lombard, massage Parlor Reports:

"What -- you think that a Gang task force wants to actually go after gangs? Could be dangerous.

"They only want bragging rights for belonging to a tough sounding unit (I'm with the Gang Task Force, muthafucka!) Only want to go after people who can't fight back. Bunch of pussies, and not the good kind.

"BTW: We consider this to be almost 100% a victim-less crime. Consenting adults and all that. Are we really a free society if we cannot decide what to do with our own bodies?

"The politicians say that the working girls are victims, and they must be right, since they make the laws. So, arrest the victims and take away their livelihood? WTF is the logic of that?O'Shea plans to announce the new ordinance at a press conference at at 10:30 am Tuesday in front of Seven Heavens Spa in West Town. He expects the new law to go into effect sometime this summer.

"Luckily, it is not a problem in our community, but it is a problem in others," he said.

If it's not a problem in "our" community why is so much time effort and expense being applied to it?

Delta634
05-24-17, 11:17
Has anyone tried this place? http://chicago.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/affordable-luxury-a-gift-from-us-special-discount-for-today-only/62201438.PM sent, better off on a road trip somewhere else, poor massage.

StanleyStankas
05-24-17, 12:50
I hear the second time the old Singapore Spa in Arlington Heights was busted, it was because a woman on the town council, or whatever they have there, had hired a P. I to follow her husband and he ended up at Singapore. Then she ran to Tom Dart and he set up a sting and brought along a camera crew.So I take it if the mayor or the police chief is known to go in it's hands off? This sucks! Who the f are these gurls hurting? I mean has anyone gone in and seen the girls chained to the place or in leg irons? Ok yea sex trafficking is not cool at any age, however I really would like to research statistics on how much of this is trafficking and how much it is about the money!

MrSmartyPants
05-24-17, 13:55
So I take it if the mayor or the police chief is known to go in it's hands off? This sucks! Who the f are these gurls hurting? I mean has anyone gone in and seen the girls chained to the place or in leg irons? Ok yea sex trafficking is not cool at any age, however I really would like to research statistics on how much of this is trafficking and how much it is about the money!It's not like it's going to improve anything, for anyone. Except maybe someone's chances for a re-election. If anything, it will push more of the massage girls into the Apartment scene which are less safe and much more "trafficky" than the parlors. What's also fucked up is the supply is going down so the prices are going back up.

MassageGuy7
05-24-17, 14:30
http://www.fox32chicago.com/news/crime/256659881-story

ApplePiePussy
05-24-17, 20:50
http://www.fox32chicago.com/news/crime/256659881-storyThis article right here sums up the state of the hobby in Chicago perfectly. It's also why I'm done with the parlors. I have my legit places that I love and I have my motel girls. In 4 years of going to parlors, with over 200 visits, I would have to say that only 35% of the time was the girl under 40.30% of the time was the massage actually worthwhile and therapeutic. 25% of the time was the the HE non-mechanical and unrushed. And only really about 12% of the time was the experience so incredible that I couldn't wait to go back. These are poor numbers and I did my fair amount of research. Imagine what a casual hobbyist goes through.

To contrast that with another city. In my visit to Philadelphia, I had 4 sessions. 100% of the girls were under 30.100% of them were attractive with a tight and fit body. 100% of them had a table shower, in fact, the girl showered as well. 0% of the time was the massage therapeutic. 100% of the time was there fucking involved for a total of around 130 dollars. So it's not quite the same thing as a standard Chicago parlor, but if this place existed in Chicago, it would be impossible to get a visit. The girls were young Koreans. They were model types. You walked in and mamasan directed you to a room. The girl would come in and you would be blown away by her looks. Then she would take you to the table shower. She would be in a bikini herself. She would wash you down thoroughly with heavy teasing, and then she would use a bucket to wash herself off really well. Then it was back to the room where she would strip naked completely, begin a mediocre to non existent massage, and then proceed to CFS. One girl allowed a facial, a couple others allowed COB.

Now you see why those of us who have hobbied in other places complain so much about what we have here. The overwhelming majority of Chicago parlors would close if they were in Philly, due to lack of customers. They would be forced to go out and get actual talent. And now, with all these closures, the demand for the remaining places will skyrocket, the girls and the mamasans will be petrified of any customers they don't recognize, and they will likely all downgrade to DIY only. After all, a 10 to 20 dollar tip and no court trouble is 100% better than a 40 dollar tip and appearing before a judge. The HE parlor business in Chicago is over. This is the nail the coffin. There will be a fuckton of Chinese apartments, which are no match in comparison to the Korean place I described above, and will likely be targeted next. There will be a ton of 180 to 240 an hour places, mostly with Euro and American girls, who will proceed to upcharge on top of that for their Nuru's and whatnot. And that's all we are going to have, aside from 300 to 400 an hour escorts.

It is, in my opinion, better to take a road trip once a month and experience other cities than it is to feed your hard earned to the remaining places here. Philly is a 12 hour drive. You could go in for the weekend and fuck your brains out and be back with a smile on your face for Monday morning, for about the same price as going to a parlor once a week, and dealing with mopey grandma's.

Walker333
05-25-17, 17:18
This article right here sums up the state of the hobby in Chicago perfectly. It's also why I'm done with the parlors. I have my legit places that I love and I have my motel girls. In 4 years of going to parlors, with over 200 visits, I would have to say that only 35% of the time was the girl under 40.30% of the time was the massage actually worthwhile and therapeutic. 25% of the time was the the HE non-mechanical and unrushed. And only really about 12% of the time was the experience so incredible that I couldn't wait to go back. These are poor numbers and I did my fair amount of research. Imagine what a casual hobbyist goes through.

To contrast that with another city. In my visit to Philadelphia, I had 4 sessions. 100% of the girls were under 30.100% of them were attractive with a tight and fit body. 100% of them had a table shower, in fact, the girl showered as well. 0% of the time was the massage therapeutic. 100% of the time was there fucking involved for a total of around 130 dollars. So it's not quite the same thing as a standard Chicago parlor, but if this place existed in Chicago, it would be impossible to get a visit. The girls were young Koreans. They were model types. You walked in and mamasan directed you to a room. The girl would come in and you would be blown away by her looks. Then she would take you to the table shower. She would be in a bikini herself. She would wash you down thoroughly with heavy teasing, and then she would use a bucket to wash herself off really well. Then it was back to the room where she would strip naked completely, begin a mediocre to non existent massage, and then proceed to CFS. One girl allowed a facial, a couple others allowed COB.

Now you see why those of us who have hobbied in other places complain so much about what we have here. The overwhelming majority of Chicago parlors would close if they were in Philly, due to lack of customers. They would be forced to go out and get actual talent. And now, with all these closures, the demand for the remaining places will skyrocket, the girls and the mamasans will be petrified of any customers they don't recognize, and they will likely all downgrade to DIY only. After all, a 10 to 20 dollar tip and no court trouble is 100% better than a 40 dollar tip and appearing before a judge. The HE parlor business in Chicago is over. This is the nail the coffin. There will be a fuckton of Chinese apartments, which are no match in comparison to the Korean place I described above, and will likely be targeted next. There will be a ton of 180 to 240 an hour places, mostly with Euro and American girls, who will proceed to upcharge on top of that for their Nuru's and whatnot. And that's all we are going to have, aside from 300 to 400 an hour escorts.

It is, in my opinion, better to take a road trip once a month and experience other cities than it is to feed your hard earned to the remaining places here. Philly is a 12 hour drive. You could go in for the weekend and fuck your brains out and be back with a smile on your face for Monday morning, for about the same price as going to a parlor once a week, and dealing with mopey grandma's.I'wiill not coment on the state of the hubby outside of Chicago. But here, I believe, everything will return to normal soon, after the temporary hardships will be forgotten. We will have plenty of mediocr $40 -HE AMP, with middle aged, sleepy amt.

BTW, as we all know, the majority of mts don't understand, speak, and read English, therefore, they would never find out about the present time turmoil, will not raise price and / or reduce services, especially for old, existing clients. Thus, I'd not worry too much.

ChicagoCat99
05-26-17, 00:01
https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/thp/6147683409.html

I thought $70 an hour is a bit pricey for a residence.

But, I thought it may be a luxury house as in the Chinese case. Or maybe the lady is pretty.

When I was there, I found the area is poor Mexican neighborhood. An abandoned car with a tow warning stickers. Old townhouse.

I still wanted to check out the lady. And, a 65 years old lady came out.

I made excuse to get out like, "Where is the nearest ATM?" and her attitude became hostile.

I feel sorry for the lady, but I could not spend that much even when some storefronts charge less.






https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/thp/6145943329.html

I had great success with this place.

This would be my "go to" place from now.

First of all, the lady was quite decent looking.

It sounds shallow, but I am picky on MT's look. There are a lot of parlors I walked back after asking a couple of questions.

I guess this lady, Julia (45) is the second prettiest one next to Anna (32) out of 23 parlors so far.

Second, this lady massaged incredibly hard.

She is petite with big breasts, but hand power was incredible.

I actually screamed and asked her stop. But, it did not work out. I think she has firm belief that strong massage is good.

(Anyway, hard massage is my thing, but you can ask her to be soft in the beginning.)

I had plenty of hard massage on my neck, head and shoulders and felt pretty good when I came out. Headache and fatigue were gone.

She spent good time on my feet as well.

This place is originally woman's manicure and hair salon. But, pretty slow as no one was there for 2-3 hours.

She used quality oil and offered hot towel and water.

I exposed myself few times, but she covered me.

I want to go to restroom after 30 minutes and she brought me special shoes. She let me walked around in naked as she closed massage isle door

She wore sexy clothes showing half of her breasts. My gut feeling is thing s could be better as I repeat.

Otherwise, I will have super hard massage which I like.

$60 massage + $20 tip = $80.

Walker333
05-26-17, 09:14
https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/thp/6147683409.html

I thought $70 an hour is a bit pricey for a residence.

But, I thought it may be a luxury house as in the Chinese case. Or maybe the lady is pretty.

When I was there, I found the area is poor Mexican neighborhood. An abandoned car with a tow warning stickers. Old townhouse.

I still wanted to check out the lady. And, a 65 years old lady came out.

I made excuse to get out like, "Where is the nearest ATM?" and her attitude became hostile.

I feel sorry for the lady, but I could not spend that much even when some storefronts charge less.






https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/thp/6145943329.html

I had great success with this place.

This would be my "go to" place from now.

First of all, the lady was quite decent looking.

It sounds shallow, but I am picky on MT's look. There are a lot of parlors I walked back after asking a couple of questions.

I guess this lady, Julia (45) is the second prettiest one next to Anna (32) out of 23 parlors so far.

Second, this lady massaged incredibly hard.

She is petite with big breasts, but hand power was incredible.

I actually screamed and asked her stop. But, it did not work out. I think she has firm belief that strong massage is good.

(Anyway, hard massage is my thing, but you can ask her to be soft in the beginning.)

I had plenty of hard massage on my neck, head and shoulders and felt pretty good when I came out. Headache and fatigue were gone.

She spent good time on my feet as well.

This place is originally woman's manicure and hair salon. But, pretty slow as no one was there for 2-3 hours.

She used quality oil and offered hot towel and water.

I exposed myself few times, but she covered me.

I want to go to restroom after 30 minutes and she brought me special shoes. She let me walked around in naked as she closed massage isle door

She wore sexy clothes showing half of her breasts. My gut feeling is thing s could be better as I repeat.

Otherwise, I will have super hard massage which I like.

$60 massage + $20 tip = $80.Sounds very interesting.

Please report or PM after your second visit.

Good luck Man!

ChicagoCat99
05-26-17, 10:14
Sounds very interesting.

Please report or PM after your second visit.

Good luck Man!Thank you, man.

Probably I will visit her on regular basis from now.

This is one of few MTs I would say fine looking.

And, she kept time by minute.

I can see body scrub on their menu on business card.

They are closed at 7:00 PM, so I will visit her in the evening from now.

It's a small plaza, but half of the space is empty.

She said she was there for 10 years. I am glad I helped her pay rent a little bit.

She even asked if I want cold or regular water.

Eddinger
05-26-17, 10:38
Its true. Philly is pretty great. 9 VIP is my favorite place in the country. I've prob been 40-60 times.


This article right here sums up the state of the hobby in Chicago perfectly. It's also why I'm done with the parlors. I have my legit places that I love and I have my motel girls. In 4 years of going to parlors, with over 200 visits, I would have to say that only 35% of the time was the girl under 40.30% of the time was the massage actually worthwhile and therapeutic. 25% of the time was the the HE non-mechanical and unrushed. And only really about 12% of the time was the experience so incredible that I couldn't wait to go back. These are poor numbers and I did my fair amount of research. Imagine what a casual hobbyist goes through.

To contrast that with another city. In my visit to Philadelphia, I had 4 sessions. 100% of the girls were under 30.100% of them were attractive with a tight and fit body. 100% of them had a table shower, in fact, the girl showered as well. 0% of the time was the massage therapeutic. 100% of the time was there fucking involved for a total of around 130 dollars. So it's not quite the same thing as a standard Chicago parlor, but if this place existed in Chicago, it would be impossible to get a visit. The girls were young Koreans. They were model types. You walked in and mamasan directed you to a room. The girl would come in and you would be blown away by her looks. Then she would take you to the table shower. She would be in a bikini herself. She would wash you down thoroughly with heavy teasing, and then she would use a bucket to wash herself off really well. Then it was back to the room where she would strip naked completely, begin a mediocre to non existent massage, and then proceed to CFS. One girl allowed a facial, a couple others allowed COB..

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Member #5942
05-26-17, 22:59
https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/thp/6147683409.html

I thought $70 an hour is a bit pricey for a residence.

But, I thought it may be a luxury house as in the Chinese case. Or maybe the lady is pretty.

When I was there, I found the area is poor Mexican neighborhood. An abandoned car with a tow warning stickers. Old townhouse.

I still wanted to check out the lady. And, a 65 years old lady came out.

I made excuse to get out like, "Where is the nearest ATM?" and her attitude became hostile.

I feel sorry for the lady, but I could not spend that much even when some storefronts charge less.






https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/thp/6145943329.html

I had great success with this place.

This would be my "go to" place from now.

First of all, the lady was quite decent looking.

It sounds shallow, but I am picky on MT's look. There are a lot of parlors I walked back after asking a couple of questions.

I guess this lady, Julia (45) is the second prettiest one next to Anna (32) out of 23 parlors so far.

Second, this lady massaged incredibly hard.

She is petite with big breasts, but hand power was incredible.

I actually screamed and asked her stop. But, it did not work out. I think she has firm belief that strong massage is good.

(Anyway, hard massage is my thing, but you can ask her to be soft in the beginning.)

I had plenty of hard massage on my neck, head and shoulders and felt pretty good when I came out. Headache and fatigue were gone.

She spent good time on my feet as well.

This place is originally woman's manicure and hair salon. But, pretty slow as no one was there for 2-3 hours.

She used quality oil and offered hot towel and water.

I exposed myself few times, but she covered me.

I want to go to restroom after 30 minutes and she brought me special shoes. She let me walked around in naked as she closed massage isle door

She wore sexy clothes showing half of her breasts. My gut feeling is thing s could be better as I repeat.

Otherwise, I will have super hard massage which I like.

$60 massage + $20 tip = $80.First link. Mongers may remember this lady because she use to wear gloves during HE. Also suffered scars from a fire in the building she worked at.

Second link. I'm friends with Jagoda (Julia) who is the owner. Her daughter is s knock out and does manicures there. Julia is a MILF. She does not provide extras. Her staff does not either. Svitlana the 23 yr old blonde no longer works there. Pretty girls but absolutely no extras.

ChicagoCat99
05-26-17, 23:49
First link. Mongers may remember this lady because she use to wear gloves during HE. Also suffered scars from a fire in the building she worked at.

Second link. I'm friends with Jagoda (Julia) who is the owner. Her daughter is s knock out and does manicures there. Julia is a MILF. She does not provide extras. Her staff does not either. Svitlana the 23 yr old blonde no longer works there. Pretty girls but absolutely no extras.Thank you, man.

I did not like the first lady in character wise. But, I am glad she's getting customers.



In case of Julia, let me see how things would go.

Strange thing is she was looking at my penis carefully when I was laying on my back while she massaged my neck. I felt like she checked if it's erected or not.

Women sometimes changes as they get old. They have maximum desire in 50s. It seems she is approaching that age.

If her daughter works together, she won't. But, she said Edith is only employee and Julia was all alone for hours when I was there.

1. No husband.
2. Boob showing clothes.
3. Body scrub
4. Need to pay rent.

I like to see how things would go.

I will visit before closing and suggest her to turn off signs before session. Three doors (front door, massage isle door, massage room door) will be locked and I will repeat it.

Otherwise, I will have super strong massage.

ChicagoCat99
05-27-17, 01:02
Second link. I'm friends with Jagoda (Julia) who is the owner. Her daughter is s knock out and does manicures there. Julia is a MILF. She does not provide extras. Her staff does not either. Svitlana the 23 yr old blonde no longer works there. Pretty girls but absolutely no extras.Personally, I am still glad I found this place.

Out of 23 places, only four people massaged for complete one hour: Anna, Daiva, Cindy, and Julia.

Only two hard massages: Cindy and Julia.

Only one person did not push for HE: Julia.

And, it's hard to say if a MT offers extra or not. It really depends on customers, MT's mood or situation.

For example, everyone unanimously says Ania does not offer extra, but someone got it.

When I was with Cindy, she approached me very carefully for HE at the end, but one guy got FS right away.

And, in case of my previous Chinese report, I assume most of people do not get HE in that luxury residence. She displayed medical maps all over the wall. But, I got it.

There are so many examples for this.

For now, let me enjoy full hard massage for $60.

Member #5942
05-27-17, 06:39
Thank you, man.

I did not like the first lady in character wise. But, I am glad she's getting customers.



In case of Julia, let me see how things would go.

Strange thing is she was looking at my penis carefully when I was laying on my back while she massaged my neck. I felt like she checked if it's erected or not.

Women sometimes changes as they get old. They have maximum desire in 50s. It seems she is approaching that age.

If her daughter works together, she won't. But, she said Edith is only employee and Julia was all alone for hours when I was there.

1. No husband.
2. Boob showing clothes.
3. Body scrub
4. Need to pay rent.

I like to see how things would go.

I will visit before closing and suggest her to turn off signs before session. Three doors (front door, massage isle door, massage room door) will be locked and I will repeat it.

Otherwise, I will have super strong massage.Yes CC99 I agree the first person, Raisa, has bad attitude and not much too look at. I do not recommend. As for Julia, she does not employee her staff so she does not have to pay benefits etc. Her only employee is her daughter. My friend Karolina use to work there years ago before she went to Megis. Most Euros dress sexy but its how they dress. Good luck with Julia. Check out her FB and youll see plenty of boob pics. Its just how she chooses to dress. A very nice lady. This may help you. Ask her about Lydia who works a half block down. This will get her to talk about HE.

Member #5942
05-27-17, 06:44
Personally, I am still glad I found this place.

Out of 23 places, only four people massaged for complete one hour: Anna, Daiva, Cindy, and Julia.

Only two hard massages: Cindy and Julia.

Only one person did not push for HE: Julia.

And, it's hard to say if a MT offers extra or not. It really depends on customers, MT's mood or situation.

For example, everyone unanimously says Ania does not offer extra, but someone got it.

When I was with Cindy, she approached me very carefully for HE at the end, but one guy got FS right away.

And, in case of my previous Chinese report, I assume most of people do not get HE in that luxury residence. She displayed medical maps all over the wall. But, I got it.

There are so many examples for this.

For now, let me enjoy full hard massage for $60.CC99 - yes Ania provided something extra. As for Cindy, if this is the one from oak park, she's a complainer which is not something customers want when getting massaged. She provides the many benefits mongers may be interested in. Good job on your reports and good luck cc99.

Dr Manhattan
05-27-17, 10:36
Out of 23 places, only four people massaged for complete one hour: Anna, Daiva, Cindy, and Julia.Via facebook, I discovered a gorgeous looking Daiva that works at a spa in Willowbrook. I'm wondering, is this the same woman you referenced above? (If it is, she's even finer looking that Lady D.) I called the spa and asked to see her for body work, but was given the runaround.

Pilatus65
05-27-17, 11:00
CC99 - yes Ania provided something extra. As for Cindy, if this is the one from oak park, she's a complainer which is not something customers want when getting massaged. She provides the many benefits mongers may be interested in. Good job on your reports and good luck cc99.In reports or findings have another variable to consider. Those submitting the reports. Maybe a leap in logic to repose 100% reliability in everything appearing on Internet.

ChicagoCat99
05-27-17, 11:00
Yes CC99 I agree the first person, Raisa, has bad attitude and not much too look at. I do not recommend. As for Julia, she does not employee her staff so she does not have to pay benefits etc. Her only employee is her daughter. My friend Karolina use to work there years ago before she went to Megis. Most Euros dress sexy but its how they dress. Good luck with Julia. Check out her FB and youll see plenty of boob pics. Its just how she chooses to dress. A very nice lady. This may help you. Ask her about Lydia who works a half block down. This will get her to talk about HE.Thank you, Man.

Why don't I try Lydia once instead of having discussion with Julia?

You are like walking library, man.

Please PM me as I cannot PM you or write her address here.

The entire area is depressed and they will appreciate new businesses.

Personally, I won't push for extra.

ChicagoCat99
05-27-17, 11:09
CC99 - yes Ania provided something extra. As for Cindy, if this is the one from oak park, she's a complainer which is not something customers want when getting massaged. She provides the many benefits mongers may be interested in. Good job on your reports and good luck cc99.Cindy is fine for just in case.

It's hard to define someone giving extra or not.

The most obvious example is "East meet west".

It's Japanese man massage place for woman. The owner has 75 good reviews from ladies for legit massage on Yelp.

But, he was arrested for extra and the shop is closed now. I guess he did it for few people and did it to one new customer.

ChicagoCat99
05-27-17, 11:24
Via facebook, I discovered a gorgeous looking Daiva that works at a spa in Willowbrook. I'm wondering, is this the same woman you referenced above? (If it is, she's even finer looking that Lady D.) I called the spa and asked to see her for body work, but was given the runaround.Not the same one, but similar.

The same nationality and village to live.

By the way, the place she work is luxury nail salon, but it has 1 hr massage for $60.

I like to try that if they allow a man to come in.


P.S.:

I found this as well and it shows $60 an hour.

https://www.yelp.com/biz_photos/atelier-de-beaute-lake-zurich?select=2w8x_pJfRC6B47Fta3JfHg

Paleface
05-27-17, 13:47
This article right here sums up the state of the hobby in Chicago perfectly. It's also why I'm done with the parlors. I have my legit places that I love and I have my motel girls. In 4 years of going to parlors, with over 200 visits, I would have to say that only 35% of the time was the girl under 40.30% of the time was the massage actually worthwhile and therapeutic. 25% of the time was the the HE non-mechanical and unrushed. And only really about 12% of the time was the experience so incredible that I couldn't wait to go back. These are poor numbers and I did my fair amount of research. Imagine what a casual hobbyist goes through.

To contrast that with another city. In my visit to Philadelphia, I had 4 sessions. 100% of the girls were under 30.100% of them were attractive with a tight and fit body. 100% of them had a table shower, in fact, the girl showered as well. 0% of the time was the massage therapeutic. 100% of the time was there fucking involved for a total of around 130 dollars. So it's not quite the same thing as a standard Chicago parlor, but if this place existed in Chicago, it would be impossible to get a visit. The girls were young Koreans. They were model types. You walked in and mamasan directed you to a room. The girl would come in and you would be blown away by her looks. Then she would take you to the table shower. She would be in a bikini herself. She would wash you down thoroughly with heavy teasing, and then she would use a bucket to wash herself off really well. Then it was back to the room where she would strip naked completely, begin a mediocre to non existent massage, and then proceed to CFS. One girl allowed a facial, a couple others allowed COB.

Now you see why those of us who have hobbied in other places complain so much about what we have here. The overwhelming majority of Chicago parlors would close if they were in Philly, due to lack of customers. They would be forced to go out and get actual talent. And now, with all these closures, the demand for the remaining places will skyrocket, the girls and the mamasans will be petrified of any customers they don't recognize, and they will likely all downgrade to DIY only. After all, a 10 to 20 dollar tip and no court trouble is 100% better than a 40 dollar tip and appearing before a judge. The HE parlor business in Chicago is over. This is the nail the coffin. There will be a fuckton of Chinese apartments, which are no match in comparison to the Korean place I described above, and will likely be targeted next. There will be a ton of 180 to 240 an hour places, mostly with Euro and American girls, who will proceed to upcharge on top of that for their Nuru's and whatnot. And that's all we are going to have, aside from 300 to 400 an hour escorts.

It is, in my opinion, better to take a road trip once a month and experience other cities than it is to feed your hard earned to the remaining places here. Philly is a 12 hour drive. You could go in for the weekend and fuck your brains out and be back with a smile on your face for Monday morning, for about the same price as going to a parlor once a week, and dealing with mopey grandma's.Bottle Rocket: You are absolutely right about everything in this post. I have been to other cities and seen the same thing, girls in their 20's all over the place. I hardly ever go out to the AMPs here anymore. The girls are old, ugly, and they want too much money, a lot of bad attitude.

In Chicago we are lucky to find a girl in her 30's. Someone posted about a young girl in an AMP on Halsted just south of 35th. I went, but there were no young girls in there. The youngest was in her 40's.

I tried elegant on Grand. Two girls in their 30's, one thought she was God's gift. The other one would go for 15 fast minutes, no longer, take it or leave it. Both were in their 30's. That is no longer young.

I tried Belmont, same thing, one fat girl in her 30's and the others in their 40's and 50's.

I think that the young girls are discouraged from working by the older ones. Remember Little Eva a few years ago? Pusalski? 26th street? She was actually young, around 24 years old. She told me she wanted to work for a while, make enough money to do something with her life and then disappear. That is exactly what she did. I remember that her colleagues were not always happy to have her around. Sunny, Cici, Ellen were all good to us, but a lot of guys were looking for a young girl and when one showed up, that took business away from them. Eventually Eva got out of the parlors and became an apartment girl. Then she disappeared, at least to me.

There are a lot of young asian girls in Chicago, but they don't want to get into it.

If more of us got fed up with this, the owners would get the message, and then things might change. Me, I am on strike.

ApplePiePussy
05-27-17, 14:02
Bottle Rocket: You are absolutely right about everything in this post. I have been to other cities and seen the same thing, girls in their 20's all over the place. I hardly ever go out to the AMPs here anymore. The girls are old, ugly, and they want too much money, a lot of bad attitude.

In Chicago we are lucky to find a girl in her 30's. Someone posted about a young girl in an AMP on Halsted just south of 35th. I went, but there were no young girls in there. The youngest was in her 40's.

I tried elegant on Grand. Two girls in their 30's, one thought she was God's gift. The other one would go for 15 fast minutes, no longer, take it or leave it. Both were in their 30's. That is no longer young.

I tried Belmont, same thing, one fat girl in her 30's and the others in their 40's and 50's.

I think that the young girls are discouraged from working by the older ones. Remember Little Eva a few years ago? Pusalski? 26th street? She was actually young, around 24 years old. She told me she wanted to work for a while, make enough money to do something with her life and then disappear. That is exactly what she did. I remember that her colleagues were not always happy to have her around. Sunny, Cici, Ellen were all good to us, but a lot of guys were looking for a young girl and when one showed up, that took business away from them. Eventually Eva got out of the parlors and became an apartment girl. Then she disappeared, at least to me.

There are a lot of young asian girls in Chicago, but they don't want to get into it.

If more of us got fed up with this, the owners would get the message, and then things might change. Me, I am on strike.In my opinion, this isn't something that they should do long term. This is a profession to be in for a year or two while you save to do something else. The other problem is that there is a lot of deception and mistreatment in the Chinese community. In my time in the hobby, I have met a lot of girls who genuinely liked what they did. These are probably the girls who knew exactly what they were getting into and what they wanted to get out of it. There were also some who you could tell just didn't want to be doing it. These are probably girls who were lied to or manipulated into doing it. Ultimately that and the recent articles on trafficking have given me pause from going to Chinese (and Thai) places anymore.

Member #5942
05-27-17, 17:55
Thank you, Man.

Why don't I try Lydia once instead of having discussion with Julia?

You are like walking library, man.

Please PM me as I cannot PM you or write her address here.

The entire area is depressed and they will appreciate new businesses.

Personally, I won't push for extra.I just pm you the info with tips. Enjoy!

Avg Joe
05-27-17, 20:29
Stopped in to see Cindy on North Ave in Oak Park a few weeks ago. Not the easiest place to find but parked directly in front so that was cool.

Rang the buzzer and she answered with her boobs almost hanging out of a nice silk dress. She shows me around the place and then leads me into a room and tells me to get comfortable. She comes back in, starts the massage and then starts complaining about every guy and everything that has happened to her and she is now starting to raise her voice like she is getting angry or something. Later she calms down and finishes the massage.

Kind of cute lady with a better than average body who can give a good massage when she is not complaining. I'm sure FS is available for the right price but it won't be cheap.

AJ.

ChicagoCat99
05-27-17, 23:46
I just pm you the info with tips. Enjoy!Dear Xabi,

I truly appreciate your info.

It's like sweetest rain in Sahara desert in August.

By chance, is Lidia in a private residence?

I called a hair shop down the street and they said they do hair only.

Let me call her on Mon and see if she is still in business.

I may have some extra cash, but if she does not offer anything extra, that's fine.

Thank you, man!

ChicagoCat99
05-28-17, 00:28
Stopped in to see Cindy on North Ave in Oak Park a few weeks ago. Not the easiest place to find but parked directly in front so that was cool.

Rang the buzzer and she answered with her boobs almost hanging out of a nice silk dress. She shows me around the place and then leads me into a room and tells me to get comfortable. She comes back in, starts the massage and then starts complaining about every guy and everything that has happened to her and she is now starting to raise her voice like she is getting angry or something. Later she calms down and finishes the massage.

Kind of cute lady with a better than average body who can give a good massage when she is not complaining. I'm sure FS is available for the right price but it won't be cheap.

AJ.That sounds odd. She never really said anything, but gave me super hard massage.

She said "honey" and this and that crap as HE time approached. I am telling you that MTs change depending on customers.

And, again, I strongly suggest not to trust if someone says "that MT is totally legit". Let me tell you one sweet little cute episode for that.

There is one European place I never identify though she gave me HE at first time. It was legit out of legit place. I did not say the name here since I am afraid their license can be revoked.

The place has ad occasionally on Craigslist. When I was there on late Friday, I was surprised that it was in the middle of medical complex (neighbors are like OB Gyn, eye surgery etc.).

And, the lady was 50 years old Russian and she was totally in nurse uniform with gym shoes (She is actual masseuse in a chiropractic office.) .

At first, I thought I will cancel it and go home. But, on second, I never had white lady before, so I will try new experience for $65.

The first 30 minutes of session passed exactly as I expected. Totally legit. No hope of extra what so ever. I remember I sighed a bit.

But, on the flip, OMG.

She smiled and started touching my penis. No talk, no negotiation or anything.

I touched her breasts and I got very intensive HE in 10 minutes.

Then, she grabbed $65 and left. I asked her not to leave since I will tip her.

Apparently, she has no idea about this modern tipping system at all (I assume it does not work that way in chiropractic office).

Late Friday night, no one in entire complex, front door locked, room locked.

Divorced woman, Felt a little horny, young naked guy. I guess she just want to grab dick and feel it in a while. She cannot do that with a regular customer. I still remember her friendly, but preying eyes. She did not do it for money.

I wish I can show you the office photo. It was totally medical setting like dentist or animal hospital. I am sure she never really do it since I can see they have been there for years with sweet little doctor friends.

What I regret the most is Grace now.

One guy kept saying she is legit with multiple visit years ago. I should have not listened.

At first, I saw her ass crack coincidently, but it seems she did not wear underwear.

Second, she hid one very small towel under the foot pillow. Though it did not covered me much, if I did not wear anything, things could be different.

ChicagoCat99
05-28-17, 01:39
I am not sure I have to release this info. But, there are plenty of young girls in Chicago. They are not just in a massage parlor.

Last Jan, I posted one ad in dating section in Craigslist. I met a couple of girls.

Lupe (24) Mexican, working at nursing home.
Nicole (21) Polish, walmart employee.

I met them at Panera bread separately. And, it was as easy as going to a parlor.

I had full service for $200 and $240 each (Nicole was more prepared).

They remember me as a nice person, so I can meet them any time I want. But, for some reasons, I do not want to rush for that.

Maybe I do not want to meet the same girls again. Or I am afraid to meet new ones after robbery. Or it was just too expensive.

$20 meal + $100 hotel + $200 service + $40 tip = $360.

And, I think I have less sexual desire as getting old, too.

For now, I just want to enjoy massages for $60. If anything happens, that's fine, but I am not very craving for that.


P.S.:

And, here is one missing point.

One of the reason old ladies are in parlor is customers are old guys.

(Men start getting massage after 40.)

Sometimes, people in similar age gather each other.



Also, why a young girl has to go through labor of one hour massage?

If they can sell themselves right away, that's not necessary.

With market principle, not LE, we can guess a bit less desirables go to massage.




I did not specify any age and was surprised this much young girls came at that time.

One more surprise.

Both did not have any hair on vaginas. I guess that's trend, too.

Ron M
05-28-17, 03:40
Both did not have any hair on vaginas. I guess that's trend, too.It's definitely the current trend.

GentleBen1
05-28-17, 10:22
https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/thp/6142428495.html

A surprisingly newish and nice house.

Nice area.

I did not wear towel and she did not mind.

She massaged every neck bone and neck. She crushed my bones to fix my posture.

Strangely, she kind of shook my body by massaging.



When I was lying on my stomach, she shook my hips rhythmically. So, I felt I am having sex on a towel or something.

This is the first time a woman offered HE in her own house.

She took time to massage penis for erection and kept stroking it even after climax was over.

A little bit of leg massage after that.

Here is the shocking part.

When I got out after tipping her, I saw a huge wedding photo with her white American husband on the wall of living room.

And, I found a Jaguar parked next to my car when I came out.

(I parked in front of their three door garage, not on the street.)

I believe her husband grants this since I can see the facility has been there for a while (years).

Massage $40 + Tip $60 = Total $100.

In general, it was very unique experience.



P.S.:

I saw a lot of human body maps on the wall.

She pointed and massaged all those on my face and upper area.

If you have actual bone or back problem, she may help you.

If you intend something sensual, just do not wear towel unless it's ready obviously.

When I think about it, I should have not wore it at Grace's place since I had to search for it.Nice lady, Close to 60 if you don't mind an older MT.

Never left the room before or after the massage. No towel in sight.

All this happening while her husband is watching TV downstairs.

ChicagoCat99
05-28-17, 11:40
Nice lady, Close to 60 if you don't mind an older MT.

Never left the room before or after the massage. No towel in sight.

All this happening while her husband is watching TV downstairs.Personally, I like to stay away.

Husband may be ok with it. Or one day, he got offended and the house may have a gun.

Most of circus animal attack happen one day while they are ok in most of time.

I just don't want to risk anything especially for a grand mommy.

Ron M
05-28-17, 12:03
Personally, I like to stay away.

Husband may be ok with it. Or one day, he got offended and the house may have a gun.

Most of circus animal attack happen one day while they are ok in most of time.

I just don't want to risk anything especially for a grand mommy.He's probably enjoying the monetary benefits of her giving massages. And for her safety.

Iamslobbyist
05-28-17, 12:22
Interesting that none of the closed down AMPs were really that notorious for giving extras. Gunnison was the only one I have really heard of, and I have not read much from this spa lately. Ten more will open up in the next two months to replace anyway.


They all got busted. Sorry Chicago is closed.

https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20170522/beverly/massage-parlor-crackdown-called-operation-hot-towel-busts-10-locations

Article cites online forums. I guess we are our own worst enemy.

Iamslobbyist
05-28-17, 12:30
Thanks to Barbarossa for suggesting Judy at Lilly Spa on Belmont. I am glad you enjoyed your experience.


Mediocre massage, but I really wasn't there for that. I actually think Judy gives a pretty decent massage. She must have been feeling lazy. Reason I like coming here is good TS, good massage, decent extras, and a nice looking although older woman. Not many places have all that.


Any suggestions for more FUTB? Would love to try that again.I would recommend you say, "Judy, please put a finger up my butt. ".

Walker333
05-28-17, 13:14
I am glad you enjoyed your experience.

I actually think Judy gives a pretty decent massage. She must have been feeling lazy. Reason I like coming here is good TS, good massage, decent extras, and a nice looking although older woman. Not many places have all that.

I would recommend you say, "Judy, please put a finger up my butt. ".I think it's a rare service. Very hard to find.

Walker333
05-28-17, 13:17
That sounds odd. She never really said anything, but gave me super hard massage.

She said "honey" and this and that crap as HE time approached. I am telling you that MTs change depending on customers.

And, again, I strongly suggest not to trust if someone says "that MT is totally legit". Let me tell you one sweet little cute episode for that.

There is one European place I never identify though she gave me HE at first time. It was legit out of legit place. I did not say the name here since I am afraid their license can be revoked.

The place has ad occasionally on Craigslist. When I was there on late Friday, I was surprised that it was in the middle of medical complex (neighbors are like OB Gyn, eye surgery etc.).

And, the lady was 50 years old Russian and she was totally in nurse uniform with gym shoes (She is actual masseuse in a chiropractic office.) .

At first, I thought I will cancel it and go home. But, on second, I never had white lady before, so I will try new experience for $65.

The first 30 minutes of session passed exactly as I expected. Totally legit. No hope of extra what so ever. I remember I sighed a bit.

But, on the flip, OMG.

She smiled and started touching my penis. No talk, no negotiation or anything.

I touched her breasts and I got very intensive HE in 10 minutes.

Then, she grabbed $65 and left. I asked her not to leave since I will tip her.

Apparently, she has no idea about this modern tipping system at all (I assume it does not work that way in chiropractic office).

Late Friday night, no one in entire complex, front door locked, room locked.

Divorced woman, Felt a little horny, young naked guy. I guess she just want to grab dick and feel it in a while. She cannot do that with a regular customer. I still remember her friendly, but preying eyes. She did not do it for money.

I wish I can show you the office photo. It was totally medical setting like dentist or animal hospital. I am sure she never really do it since I can see they have been there for years with sweet little doctor friends.

What I regret the most is Grace now.

One guy kept saying she is legit with multiple visit years ago. I should have not listened.

At first, I saw her ass crack coincidently, but it seems she did not wear underwear.

Second, she hid one very small towel under the foot pillow. Though it did not covered me much, if I did not wear anything, things could be different.I knew and seen her 7-8 years ago. She has done it all, until got busted.

BenBeck
05-28-17, 14:17
I think it's a rare service. Very hard to find.It's around if you're looking for it, and she's one. It's one way to go, if you're into that sort of thing. Just making the subtle signals that you're "open" and I'm betting you'll find that it's more common than you might think, IMHO. Although, in Chicago, less routine than, say in CA, where you have to prevent it from happening.

BB, out.

Walker333
05-28-17, 15:42
It's around if you're looking for it, and she's one. It's one way to go, if you're into that sort of thing. Just making the subtle signals that you're "open" and I'm betting you'll find that it's more common than you might think, IMHO. Although, in Chicago, less routine than, say in CA, where you have to prevent it from happening.

BB, out.So, what institutes the "subtle signals" ?

Avg Joe
05-28-17, 21:04
CC99 - yes Ania provided something extra. As for Cindy, if this is the one from oak park, she's a complainer which is not something customers want when getting massaged. She provides the many benefits mongers may be interested in. Good job on your reports and good luck cc99.Cindy is good once she stops her complaining. Pretty good massage and good service. I had no complaints other than that.

ChicagoCat99
05-28-17, 22:11
He's probably enjoying the monetary benefits of her giving massages. And for her safety.I am sure.

But, still she did not complete massage hour. After everything was done, I checked clock in my car and only 45 minutes passed.

I am afraid of the husband, man.

Ron M
05-28-17, 23:07
I am sure.

But, still she did not complete massage hour. After everything was done, I checked clock in my car and only 45 minutes passed.

I am afraid of the husband, man.I agree. It is a bit worrying having another guy in another room while you're playing with a lady. I've been in a few of these situations. Nothing ever happened. He never left his room while I played the lady.

Head First
05-29-17, 12:59
I am sure.

But, still she did not complete massage hour. After everything was done, I checked clock in my car and only 45 minutes passed.

I am afraid of the husband, man.The one in her room is set 5 and sometimes 10 minutes fast. So right from the get go the customer is being shorted. They count on us losing track of time. Then before we know it we're back in our car thinking to ourselves, "that was fast. " I've seen it in other places too. It's all part of the hustle.

MrSmartyPants
05-29-17, 13:26
He's probably enjoying the monetary benefits of her giving massages. And for her safety.Too funny. I knew who you were talking about without reading back a few posts. I went back and made sure, since her area is WAY outside of Chicago.

I used to go to her a lot 5-10 years ago, and in a different house. First number of visits it was more like going to the Foot Spa, yet in a person's house. The water tub for the feet and all that. I didn't go for a HE and nothing like that happened, went 5-10 times then stopped for a couple of years. The husband used to greet me at the door, seemed nice, and would gush about how good her massages are. After a while he never showed his face again. Feels somewhat odd, but I kinda got used to it, knowing he was downstairs.

Stopped going to her for a while. When I returned, the foot bath was out, HE's were in, and the time went from one hour to 45 minutes.

I thought she was 60-ish back then, she could be pushing 70 now. She's nice; but I don't go anymore because her massage has become very light, yet still non sensual, and the ending is abrupt and extremely mechanical. Lots of better options. But it's sure a weird setup.

ChicagoCat99
05-29-17, 13:52
The one in her room is set 5 and sometimes 10 minutes fast. So right from the get go the customer is being shorted. They count on us losing track of time. Then before we know it we're back in our car thinking to ourselves, "that was fast. " I've seen it in other places too. It's all part of the hustle.When I was in Julia, it started 2:27 PM and ended at 3:25 PM.

The same for Anna (Palatine) and Daiva (Darien).

ChicagoCat99
05-29-17, 14:45
Interesting that none of the closed down AMPs were really that notorious for giving extras. Gunnison was the only one I have really heard of, and I have not read much from this spa lately. Ten more will open up in the next two months to replace anyway.There are hell a lot of massage places. If you look carefully, almost one out of three plazas has a massage.

Regular massage, Chinese spas, Woman esthetic spas, Massage franchises, Medical spa, foot spas, shopping mall chair massage, nail salons and hair salons doing massages, private residences, hidden latina places, hotel and resorts.

I called Lydia for Xabi's recommendation. It was even a health product place like GNC. Who would imagine they have a massage?

SpartanKY
05-29-17, 16:41
Hey guys,

Just moved to the 312 from NYC. I was hoping to dive in to the MP scene. Any chance you all could pass me some info? It looks like the well is temporarily dry, but I imagine there's some good findings out there anyway. I'd love to visit a Latina Massage Parlor. In NYC, the CDP's (casas de puta) tend to be pretty sketchy, so a quality place around here would be great. I can trade info about NYC or Cincinnati if you want.

-Spartanky.

GentleBen1
05-29-17, 18:37
Too funny. I knew who you were talking about without reading back a few posts. I went back and made sure, since her area is WAY outside of Chicago.

I used to go to her a lot 5-10 years ago, and in a different house. First number of visits it was more like going to the Foot Spa, yet in a person's house. The water tub for the feet and all that. I didn't go for a HE and nothing like that happened, went 5-10 times then stopped for a couple of years. The husband used to greet me at the door, seemed nice, and would gush about how good her massages are. After a while he never showed his face again. Feels somewhat odd, but I kinda got used to it, knowing he was downstairs.

Stopped going to her for a while. When I returned, the foot bath was out, HE's were in, and the time went from one hour to 45 minutes.

I thought she was 60-ish back then, she could be pushing 70 now. She's nice; but I don't go anymore because her massage has become very light, yet still non sensual, and the ending is abrupt and extremely mechanical. Lots of better options. But it's sure a weird setup.Sue from the long closed Technicolor was good friends with her. After they went to church on Sunday's I would meet Sue at the house in Round Lake for a 60 minute massage.

Crazy thing is when we were done I would drive her home to Gurnee where her husband was waiting for her.

After a few months this came to an end. Hubby may have found out, not sure.

ZzTopSterZz
05-29-17, 19:11
I just pm you the info with tips. Enjoy!Xabi could you PM me for info on ania and Julia? Looking to spread out beyond Maria's in Skokie (I've actually been very happy there and interested to explore other areas) thanks.

ChicagoCat99
05-30-17, 02:08
Fine experience over all.

A little too older than I expected (60).

But, still looking decent in trendy make up and high end perfume. Very very super skinny (anorexia).

Full hour massage, but a bit weak in my standard (she pushed crazily on my lower legs, though.).

She removed towel in the middle, which I like. Tons of ass play.

$60 service included something. She proceeded without word, but I had to ask her stop in the middle (my high blood pressure).

She gladly massaged my head and face, instead.

Here is shocking thing.

When I gave her $20 tip, she got surprised and said, "You paid me already. ".

I told her it's tip and she smiled and hugged me.

Now do you see how much money we have wasted? I am sick of girls asking more.

I actually hugged her a couple of times more since she smelled good.

As soon as I came out, one old men (70) came in to have session with her.

Massage $60 + Tip $20 = total $80.

I am glad I helped a local business a little instead of philly girls rich.

StanleyStankas
05-30-17, 10:52
Fine experience over all.

A little too older than I expected (60).

But, still looking decent in trendy make up and high end perfume. Very very super skinny (anorexia).

Full hour massage, but a bit weak in my standard (she pushed crazily on my lower legs, though.).

She removed towel in the middle, which I like. Tons of ass play.

$60 service included something. She proceeded without word, but I had to ask her stop in the middle (my high blood pressure).

She gladly massaged my head and face, instead.

Here is shocking thing.

When I gave her $20 tip, she got surprised and said, "You paid me already. ".

I told her it's tip and she smiled and hugged me.

Now do you see how much money we have wasted? I am sick of girls asking more.

I actually hugged her a couple of times more since she smelled good.

As soon as I came out, one old men (70) came in to have session with her.

Massage $60 + Tip $20 = total $80.

I am glad I helped a local business a little instead of philly girls rich.Now this is what I like to hear! One more of us old dudes still getting his top tightened by a younger woman (well 60). These young bucks are complaining on listcrawler about a young thing that says she's 40 but really 50 or so! F at 50 I still have 15 years on her so in my eyes she's still a kid!

ChicagoCat99
05-30-17, 13:15
Now this is what I like to hear! One more of us old dudes still getting his top tightened by a younger woman (well 60). These young bucks are complaining on listcrawler about a young thing that says she's 40 but really 50 or so! F at 50 I still have 15 years on her so in my eyes she's still a kid!Julia is still older than me, but she is fine.

When I hugged her, her breasts poked me (augmentation?).

Let me focus on massage before I get brain seizure (no HE).

I can consider this $60 for doctor's visit. I feel actually better after massage.

Big Waffle
05-30-17, 14:28
I'm looking for a good latina place. Is Zeus worth visiting?

ChicagoCat99
05-30-17, 14:54
When I mentioned the young Russian girl, somebody said she did not suggested any extra for three visits.

And, this is what I found.

http://adzone.urbanretails.com/AdDetail/011926

She's doing outcall until 11:00 PM in hotel area. The photo matches one of her Craigslist ad.

Let's not define who is legit or not.

P.S.:

By the way, her attitude was pretty bad today, so I decided not to have session.

She said "Hey, what do you want?". (Am I getting free massage?)

And, she said she does not visit a house. Hypocrite.

Member #5942
05-30-17, 19:09
Fine experience over all.

A little too older than I expected (60).

But, still looking decent in trendy make up and high end perfume. Very very super skinny (anorexia).

Full hour massage, but a bit weak in my standard (she pushed crazily on my lower legs, though.).

She removed towel in the middle, which I like. Tons of ass play.

$60 service included something. She proceeded without word, but I had to ask her stop in the middle (my high blood pressure).

She gladly massaged my head and face, instead.

Here is shocking thing.

When I gave her $20 tip, she got surprised and said, "You paid me already. ".

I told her it's tip and she smiled and hugged me.

Now do you see how much money we have wasted? I am sick of girls asking more.

I actually hugged her a couple of times more since she smelled good.

As soon as I came out, one old men (70) came in to have session with her.

Massage $60 + Tip $20 = total $80.

I am glad I helped a local business a little instead of philly girls rich.Cc99 - glad my lead paid off. I wish you didn't post the number for obvious reasons. Let me know if you want more leads but do not post number if possible.

Member #5942
05-30-17, 19:16
Xabi could you PM me for info on ania and Julia? Looking to spread out beyond Maria's in Skokie (I've actually been very happy there and interested to explore other areas) thanks.Zztopster. There is not much to pm really. Julia does not provide standard finish. On a scale of 1-10 for looks she's a 6. 5. Probably around 55. As for Ania the time spent is not worth the investment. She's got huge tits but also a chubby lady. Always wears yoga and black clothing. Her massage room is on second floor of home. Sometimes has family at home. Provides tease for most. I don't recommend unless you have time and cash.

I would recommend Lidia who works out of home on northwest side chicago. Very accomodating but think she doesn't take new clients although never asked.

Good luck!

ChicagoCat99
05-30-17, 20:56
Cc99 - glad my lead paid off. I wish you didn't post the number for obvious reasons. Let me know if you want more leads but do not post number if possible.Actually, that's what I worried.

But, I thought it brings her more customers since she's getting old. And, I think she needs to pay the massage room rent.

To be sure, I did not get any HE. She is legit according to my experience.

Do you know a couple of similar ladies? Info won't be shared publicly from now.

Thank you, man!

ZzTopSterZz
05-30-17, 21:06
Zztopster. There is not much to pm really. Julia does not provide standard finish. On a scale of 1-10 for looks she's a 6. 5. Probably around 55. As for Ania the time spent is not worth the investment. She's got huge tits but also a chubby lady. Always wears yoga and black clothing. Her massage room is on second floor of home. Sometimes has family at home. Provides tease for most. I don't recommend unless you have time and cash.

I would recommend Lidia who works out of home on northwest side chicago. Very accomodating but think she doesn't take new clients although never asked.

Good luck!Thanks. Will stick with Maria's for now. Seniors please PM me with other ideas (or post back on EMT thread).

Member #5942
05-30-17, 21:24
Actually, that's what I worried.

But, I thought it brings her more customers since she's getting old. And, I think she needs to pay the massage room rent.

To be sure, I did not get any HE. She is legit according to my experience.

Do you know a couple of similar ladies? Info won't be shared publicly from now.

Thank you, man!I recommend Victoria at bless spa in rosemont. I also recommend tatiana who use to work atbless but now just works outcalls.

Bless spa you can get number via the google. Ill send you tatiana by pm later in the week.

Lidia owns the room. Has been there for 100s of years.

Cheers!

ChicagoCat99
05-30-17, 21:39
I recommend Victoria at bless spa in rosemont. I also recommend tatiana who use to work atbless but now just works outcalls.

Bless spa you can get number via the google. Ill send you tatiana by pm later in the week.

Lidia owns the room. Has been there for 100s of years.

Cheers!I want to put my nose between Julia's rack and lubricate whole day, man.

She should be 8 out of 10.

How old is Victoria? I can see bless has independence day sale of $60.

Sam Spade
05-30-17, 22:18
https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/thp/6142428495.html

A surprisingly newish and nice house.

When I got out after tipping her, I saw a huge wedding photo with her white American husband on the wall of living room.

And, I found a Jaguar parked next to my car when I came out.

(I parked in front of their three door garage, not on the street.)

I believe her husband grants this since I can see the facility has been there for a while (years).

When I think about it, I should have not wore it at Grace's place since I had to search for it.I hardly ever go to the Chicago Massage Parlor forum anymore, since I've lived in the northern burbs for almost 20 years. But your post caught my eye. I have been seeing Daying for almost 5 years. Yes, she is married to the guy in the picture, and I only saw him once. Nice enough. Don't worry. He knows what's up. Doesn't matter. Daying rules the roost.

Yes, her massage is very mechanical and not at all sensual, unless you ask her. I'd seen her add for over a year before I went, figuring she was legit. But for. 4, how can you go wrong? I remember on the flip, she massaged my skull, then started doing this nice tummy rub, which got me excited. And I smiled. She just pointed and I node and off she went. Again, it's pretty mechanical, but she takes direction very well. So just ask nice, and leave a nice tip. Be nice on the way out, and you'll always have a backup. Except during the coldest winter months. She saves and heads to China every winter.

ChicagoCat99
05-30-17, 23:46
I hardly ever go to the Chicago Massage Parlor forum anymore, since I've lived in the northern burbs for almost 20 years. But your post caught my eye. I have been seeing Daying for almost 5 years. Yes, she is married to the guy in the picture, and I only saw him once. Nice enough. Don't worry. He knows what's up. Doesn't matter. Daying rules the roost.

Yes, her massage is very mechanical and not at all sensual, unless you ask her. I'd seen her add for over a year before I went, figuring she was legit. But for. 4, how can you go wrong? I remember on the flip, she massaged my skull, then started doing this nice tummy rub, which got me excited. And I smiled. She just pointed and I node and off she went. Again, it's pretty mechanical, but she takes direction very well. So just ask nice, and leave a nice tip. Be nice on the way out, and you'll always have a backup. Except during the coldest winter months. She saves and heads to China every winter.Thank you, man.

But, honestly, I have no desire to repeat. At least, Lidia is pretty grandma.

It was another new experience and I am happy with trip to new lake area having scenic view.

Seraph2
05-31-17, 10:19
Thank you, man.

But, honestly, I have no desire to repeat. At least, Lidia is pretty grandma.

It was another new experience and I am happy with trip to new lake area having scenic view.Agreed. She is very mechanical at best and massage is weak. I can get a better massage from CT, or K in Northbrook. I am also not into Asians.

Pickles13
05-31-17, 23:02
Can you send me a PM? I wanted to ask you about a place near Harlem and Grand.

Toe Knee
06-01-17, 06:32
Went to King spa finally in Palos. $65 for an hour and a decent massage but only self service finish. Didn't even catch the name of the Asian woman that gave me the massage.

Member #5942
06-01-17, 07:26
Can you send me a PM? I wanted to ask you about a place near Harlem and Grand.Will do. Ill send one later this evening. If you are asking about Napier, I do not recommend.

StanleyStankas
06-01-17, 07:44
Will do. Ill send one later this evening. If you are asking about Napier, I do not recommend.Dude mentioned grand at austin I believe so I would like to know if that place is ok as well "kings". I am a senior citizen so if the girl is older than me it's not going to work. Seems to be there are mostly old ones doing this but again I do not know. The only two I have observed so far is the one on gun when I lived over there and the one off the kennedy on the north side east of cumb when I was driving pub tran. She seemed to work alone and kinda cold, however did have what looked like some nice bolt ons.

Member #5942
06-01-17, 13:38
Dude mentioned grand at austin I believe so I would like to know if that place is ok as well "kings". I am a senior citizen so if the girl is older than me it's not going to work. Seems to be there are mostly old ones doing this but again I do not know. The only two I have observed so far is the one on gun when I lived over there and the one off the kennedy on the north side east of cumb when I was driving pub tran. She seemed to work alone and kinda cold, however did have what looked like some nice bolt ons.Stank I don't have info about austin and grand sorry. I didn't know there was a spa in that area. If one on gun is a reference to gunnison spa. He gone! Closed down. I am not able to decode who the cold person is off of Cumberland. Not many places employ under 25. Also not many places having pretty girls hoping to earn an extra tip. King on NA has one therapist and many options available.

Pickles13
06-01-17, 13:45
Will do. Ill send one later this evening. If you are asking about Napier, I do not recommend.That's the one I was curious about. My backyard. Send me a PM anyway. Need a hot Euro fix near Oak Park.

ThrilHouse
06-01-17, 14:53
Anybody else experience the MILF south loop? Only posts on ter. Any info appreciated.

ChicagoCat99
06-01-17, 15:01
Out of 25 places, I decided to keep these three girls.

Daiva (Darien) longer massage, $60 for 90 min + $20 tip = $80.
Julia (Elmwood park) Pretty face, Nice rack, Strong hands, $60 an hour + $20 tips = $80.
Anna (Palatine) Young and pretty, decent decor, $60 an hour + $15 tips = $80.

All info are on Craigslist. In some sense, massage is like taking journey.

Dark room, closed eyes, little music, aroma and soft touches. If they want to provide services without legal trouble, let me just comply.

I cancelled my home Internet for too much porn. I don't want HE desperately nowadays.

Let me just relax with them and help their rent or mortgage a little. This is my way of donation to society. Also, I can consider $80 as doctor's visit.

There are decent woman's salon charging only $55-60 also. Let me focus on pretty face and quality experience before a police kick my ass.

Walker333
06-01-17, 15:07
Out of 25 places, I decided to keep these three girls.

Daiva (Darien) longer massage, $60 for 90 min + $20 tip = $80.
Julia (Elmwood park) Pretty face, Nice rack, Strong hands, $60 an hour + $20 tips = $80.
Anna (Palatine) Young and pretty, decent decor, $60 an hour + $15 tips = $80.

All info are on Craigslist. In some sense, massage is like taking journey.

Dark room, closed eyes, little music, aroma and soft touches. If they want to provide services without getting trouble, let me just comply.Based upon tips that you left, the fair conclusion is that all listed mts are legit.

StanleyStankas
06-01-17, 15:25
Stank I don't have info about austin and grand sorry. I didn't know there was a spa in that area. If one on gun is a reference to gunnison spa. He gone! Closed down. I am not able to decode who the cold person is off of Cumberland. Not many places employ under 25. Also not many places having pretty girls hoping to earn an extra tip. King on NA has one therapist and many options available.Yea one of the fellas mentioned something near austin at grand and I will thread through again. He did mention she was on the older side as well. Ok yea gun east of nagle is gone? Interesting don't stay in jeff park any longer as I moved closer to the big airport but interesting. I knew that there was some uncle LEO activity there recently though. That I remember from the forum here. Yea the one on higgins east of cumb is le passage or something like that. You can see it from the kennedy on the north side. I went in once in uni when I was on a break from pub tran. One of the old timers that trained me and I got to talking about that place and the Polish lady. He said she used to ride his bus to that intersection from chicago back in the day, buy he never partook. When I went in she was kind of suspicious really but I took her card and said I would be back (never did). Did not look like anyone else worked with her and also did not get the vibe like extras could be had. If they are then she was on the younger side, in shape and had that nice rack as I recall. Thanks again.

ChicagoCat99
06-01-17, 15:30
Based upon tips that you left, the fair conclusion is that all listed mts are legit.Yes, apparently.

But, you will never know since Julia has body scrub service and Anna advertised for hotel until 11:00 PM.

If you follow sex, you will never get it. Or you may get little for huge price from someone you don't really like.

Let me just give up, relax and let them do their job. Anna changed her attitude as soon as she recognized me. Girls like a relaxed guy, so they can show some skill.

Let them decide whatever since they know the situation there. Otherwise, let me follow their leads and have relaxing journey.

Member #5942
06-01-17, 15:34
Yea one of the fellas mentioned something near austin at grand and I will thread through again. He did mention she was on the older side as well. Ok yea gun east of nagle is gone? Interesting don't stay in jeff park any longer as I moved closer to the big airport but interesting. I knew that there was some uncle LEO activity there recently though. That I remember from the forum here. Yea the one on higgins east of cumb is le passage or something like that. You can see it from the kennedy on the north side. I went in once in uni when I was on a break from pub tran. One of the old timers that trained me and I got to talking about that place and the Polish lady. He said she used to ride his bus to that intersection from chicago back in the day, buy he never partook. When I went in she was kind of suspicious really but I took her card and said I would be back (never did). Did not look like anyone else worked with her and also did not get the vibe like extras could be had. If they are then she was on the younger side, in shape and had that nice rack as I recall. Thanks again.Le Passage does not provide the extras that is sought for. They been in business for at least 8 years. All Euros look suspicious jokingly said. Megis is close to le passage but also closed. United on harlem is closed as well. If you want more to happen see victoria at bless. Good luck!!

Niceguy99
06-01-17, 16:38
Le Passage does not provide the extras that is sought for. They been in business for at least 8 years. All Euros look suspicious jokingly said. Megis is close to le passage but also closed. United on harlem is closed as well. If you want more to happen see victoria at bless. Good luck!!United closed? When? I loved that place! First AMP I ever went to.

Member #5942
06-01-17, 18:59
United closed? When? I loved that place! First AMP I ever went to.I think about 5 months ago. It was not busted. Just closed by choice. I always thought United and Gunnison would stay open forever. United went from standard to full and that is a huge chance to take.

Starks
06-01-17, 20:06
I think about 5 months ago. It was not busted. Just closed by choice. I always thought United and Gunnison would stay open forever. United went from standard to full and that is a huge chance to take.With United I don't think it was either. If you drive by there now, that whole corner is roped off for upcoming construction. I think it was simply that the Village bought out the properties on that corner and told United their lease wasn't going to be renewed, or if United owned the building, they bought from them. I always considered that possibility since I found out they closed. A few months before they closed there were a few stories about Norridge wanting to change the make up of that part of Harlem.

Head First
06-01-17, 22:39
When I drove by this afternoon the OPEN sign was on and the trademark front door was cracked open.

StanleyStankas
06-02-17, 08:52
When I drove by this afternoon the OPEN sign was on and the trademark front door was cracked open.I have never seen one person sitting in that little waiting area. I might have seen one of the working girls bringing groceries or packages in from a car though one time. Young girl and old lady. I must have biked, scooted or walked by there a thousand times during my two years in jeff park.

Wadman
06-02-17, 09:05
I think about 5 months ago. It was not busted. Just closed by choice. I always thought United and Gunnison would stay open forever. United went from standard to full and that is a huge chance to take.December 6 2016. I was inside waiting fully dreesed for Happy to finish with another customer. Other "customer" was a Sheriff. Sheriffs gave me the 3rd degree but let me go cause they had nothing to stand on to arrest me. The next day I asked a Sheriff friend of mine why irigot busted. The developer was trying for months to get United to leave but they wouldn't budge. The developer with the help of the Norridge police and Tom Dart's boys basically pushed them out. Never hit the news or media. BTW, if anyone knows where Happy is, please let me know via PM.

Member #5942
06-02-17, 11:10
I have never seen one person sitting in that little waiting area. I might have seen one of the working girls bringing groceries or packages in from a car though one time. Young girl and old lady. I must have biked, scooted or walked by there a thousand times during my two years in jeff park.Stank. The hiding area is the room on the left side opposite the laundry room. The front entrance is not used by regular customers. I remember Lee used it to sleep and many if her girls stayed overnight. The back entrance is the main entrance and has another door which locks. The waiting area was for some of the therapists dogs.

StanleyStankas
06-02-17, 12:42
Stank. The hiding area is the room on the left side opposite the laundry room. The front entrance is not used by regular customers. I remember Lee used it to sleep and many if her girls stayed overnight. The back entrance is the main entrance and has another door which locks. The waiting area was for some of the therapists dogs.Ok and that makes sense, xa. I knew about the back door because on my bike rides sometimes I would ally down from the hill across from the country club all the way past there so yea I knew the parking lot in the back and that door. The weirdest thing I saw there was during the day a dude had a really nice muscle car and he was arguing with a girl. Then he looks at me and says "you saw that right? She kicked my car!" of course I was like huh? Then she said "go ahead call the cops with all those rocks you have on you". I was like keep on peddling I want no part of this!

StanleyStankas
06-02-17, 12:47
December 6 2016. I was inside waiting fully dreesed for Happy to finish with another customer. Other "customer" was a Sheriff. Sheriffs gave me the 3rd degree but let me go cause they had nothing to stand on to arrest me. The next day I asked a Sheriff friend of mine why irigot busted. The developer was trying for months to get United to leave but they wouldn't budge. The developer with the help of the Norridge police and Tom Dart's boys basically pushed them out. Never hit the news or media. BTW, if anyone knows where Happy is, please let me know via PM.I almost rented a crib in norridge from a retired cop there that still worked p x for the school district. He was a nice guy but I could tell he was part of the sargent sphincter patrol! Sounds like an inside job. Yea I don't know happy but I to would like to know where she is as well. Sounds fun!

Starks
06-02-17, 20:28
December 6 2016. I was inside waiting fully dreesed for Happy to finish with another customer. Other "customer" was a Sheriff. Sheriffs gave me the 3rd degree but let me go cause they had nothing to stand on to arrest me. The next day I asked a Sheriff friend of mine why irigot busted. The developer was trying for months to get United to leave but they wouldn't budge. The developer with the help of the Norridge police and Tom Dart's boys basically pushed them out. Never hit the news or media. BTW, if anyone knows where Happy is, please let me know via PM.If you know where Happy is, hit me up also.

ChicagoCat99
06-02-17, 21:59
December 6 2016. I was inside waiting fully dreesed for Happy to finish with another customer. Other "customer" was a Sheriff. Sheriffs gave me the 3rd degree but let me go cause they had nothing to stand on to arrest me. The next day I asked a Sheriff friend of mine why irigot busted. The developer was trying for months to get United to leave but they wouldn't budge. The developer with the help of the Norridge police and Tom Dart's boys basically pushed them out. Never hit the news or media. BTW, if anyone knows where Happy is, please let me know via PM.Thank you for your info.

I guess I am done. I cannot get anything like 3rd degree or whatever.

And, I am not curious about anything any more. It was good memory, but I guess it's time to hold.

P.S. :

I will still go to legit massage if it's $60. Napier, Seasons, whatever. It's just plenty. Countless. It will be helpful for local businesses.

If anything comes, that's fine. Otherwise, I will have good massage for hypertension. So far, I like Anna and Julia the most.

MongerAlways
06-03-17, 18:01
Went to King spa finally in Palos. $65 for an hour and a decent massage but only self service finish. Didn't even catch the name of the Asian woman that gave me the massage.If they like you they will negotiate and give HE.

RubaDub1969
06-03-17, 19:38
http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/studio-bath-massage-by-denise-on-vacation/64569143

Had a dream about Denise. Table bath / massage, with some light roaming. As stated elsewhere, that's her in the picture, very nice lady, I was pleased. I will repeat.

Jesus Collins
06-04-17, 12:26
http://chicago.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/love-me-madison-and/64984898

Spidey senses are going crazy.

LEO?

SouthBend
06-04-17, 17:41
http://chicago.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/love-me-madison-and/64984898

Spidey senses are going crazy.

LEO?It's not LEO. Run the number on fb and you'll see it belongs to a guy. I'm sure that when you get there, there will be about 5 "Vatos" waiting to rob you.

Be safe peeps.

Walker333
06-05-17, 14:40
Saw J last week. Place is ok, slightly loud probably due to bad insulation.

Mt, probably around 50, provocatively dressed (very short dress), so her age isn't very obvious.

Ts. Ok, 6/10.

Massage. Fine, 7/10.

Teasing- good, but very limited, almost non existing.

Evening was rushed, including finish. For finish it's critical, not to rush, therefore finish is just 2/10. Roaming is permitted.

She walked out to answer the door and phone a few times, nonetheless she shorted me 15 min.

Overall experience 4-5/10.

ChicagoCat99
06-05-17, 16:19
It's not LEO. Run the number on fb and you'll see it belongs to a guy. I'm sure that when you get there, there will be about 5 "Vatos" waiting to rob you.

Be safe peeps.This is helpful.

That looks aggressive looking guy.

ChicagoCat99
06-05-17, 18:27
http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/studio-bath-massage-by-denise-on-vacation/64569143

Had a dream about Denise. Table bath / massage, with some light roaming. As stated elsewhere, that's her in the picture, very nice lady, I was pleased. I will repeat.$150 is expensive, though.

Most of body scrub services are $50 or so (if it's 40 mins to one hour). And, the table in the photo are for common Chinese table shower and AMP charges $5-10.

There are Turkish bath place on Belmont always advertised by young girls on Craigslist. That's $99 an hour.

Let's not go crazy.

DynoJr
06-05-17, 23:20
$150 is expensive, though.

Most of body scrub services are $50 or so (if it's 40 mins to one hour). And, the table in the photo are for common Chinese table shower and AMP charges $5-10.

There are Turkish bath place on Belmont always advertised by young girls on Craigslist. That's $99 an hour.

Let's not go crazy.C'Mon., even in a AMP you're paying $60 to the house + another $40 at least to get the HE. So you get a nice white lady with young assistants for $150 and we're complaining? The cheapest indy's still cost me $100 and I was usually done in 30 minutes.

MikeClarkSea
06-06-17, 00:33
New to Chicago area and looking for something to do. Recommendations welcome.

Thank you!

StanleyStankas
06-06-17, 07:58
C'Mon., even in a AMP you're paying $60 to the house + another $40 at least to get the HE. So you get a nice white lady with young assistants for $150 and we're complaining? The cheapest indy's still cost me $100 and I was usually done in 30 minutes.If the quality is there with the look and clothing or lack there of I am ok with that price range. 150-2 even for the hour if I am comfortable. Of course I would want the relief prior to leaving. But I prefer also to stay with the indi's.

Walker333
06-06-17, 09:14
If the quality is there with the look and clothing or lack there of I am ok with that price range. 150-2 even for the hour if I am comfortable. Of course I would want the relief prior to leaving. But I prefer also to stay with the indi's.It must be a good massage + ts+fn BJ for 150, otherwise it's a ripoff.

CoolPatrick
06-06-17, 10:45
If the quality is there with the look and clothing or lack there of I am ok with that price range. 150-2 even for the hour if I am comfortable. Of course I would want the relief prior to leaving. But I prefer also to stay with the indi's.Cheapest indys on BP is $100 QV or HH, and that's already a rare option, especially in this town. $100 for happy ending in an Asian massage parlor with rolling the dice on how much older of the girl than what you expect and how much luck you get additional roaming actions etc. is also sort of standard. Therefore, with $50 or $60 more, in exchange of younger girls with promised happy ending should not be something you have to complain, especially if your goal is the RELIEF, not the thrill of hunting.

$150 at Asian parlor indeed should include more service items with quality, only because their pricing has been one-step down given mainly the ethnicity and the pricing difference between here and their homeland. Yet, nothing in Asian parlor is guaranteed nor as advertised. Always YMMV. Hence the legitimate rip-off notion about $150 in relation to service quality.

Alternatively, www.tantricas-usa.com is the perfect example, the girls are young, Americans, with all races (over years), $160 covers a rub and happy ending. Girls pretty much strip down to thong or nothing. And you get to shower if you want, often the girl will shower with you too. As long as one of the girls appeals to you, you really shouldn't complain, because the pics are accurate and you know exactly what you can get. There are a few places like that on BP, prices are pretty much identical, at least the door fee part. Unless you only want to be jerked off by older Asian women, iff happy ending is only what you need in the hobby, then I don't know how you may complain about the guaranteed service with these places.

If you are a thrill seeker and are only fond of older Asian women, then it will be a different story. Still, race aside, $100 tip would get you BBBJ (most likely) at Logan Tantricas, and you can still get the chance to charm the girl to spread her legs and welcome your cock. This is the YMMV part that you can enjoy. The only thing is, you will end up paying $300-$400 when you succeed, just like how some of us pay that same money for a GFE with a higher quality indy escort or a girl from agencies like CEM (then EEC), CEC, ECE, Wet'and'Wild, etc.

The pricing structure is incredibly stable in this hobby, based on my experience in all parts of the States. The tiers are pretty much the same. The differences are the availability of supply at different tiers, and certainly the level of talent. It's your money, no one have any say on how you want to spend it. But you also need to know, you will get what you pay for if you have done your homework and understand how the pricing structure works.

Keep chasing cheap thrills on BP is unlikely to save you money without research effort because you have to account for all the disappointments and the extra efforts that you need to sink in for that needed relief. Image you use the wasted time to drive Uber, you'd pretty much earn the money to afford the more expensive options.

Niceguy99
06-06-17, 10:54
Just curious guys. I understand tipping at a mp, because they have to give a share to the house but for private MPs that work out of their own home, do you guys feel it's necessary to tip? Do you tip?

Indian Chief
06-06-17, 15:11
That Turkish bath place is crappiest place I have visited. $99 is waste. Don't go there.


$150 is expensive, though.

Most of body scrub services are $50 or so (if it's 40 mins to one hour). And, the table in the photo are for common Chinese table shower and AMP charges $5-10.

There are Turkish bath place on Belmont always advertised by young girls on Craigslist. That's $99 an hour.

Let's not go crazy.

Niceguy99
06-06-17, 15:33
That Turkish bath place is crappiest place I have visited. $99 is waste. Don't go there.Good to know, I was curious about this place. Thanks for toftt.

Niceguy99
06-07-17, 11:13
What would you guys say is the best mp in the city? Got an extra day off work and looking to treat myself, please PM me recommendations with a few details if you can, I need it to be within city limits.

ReadyForRub
06-07-17, 14:40
Just curious guys. I understand tipping at a mp, because they have to give a share to the house but for private MPs that work out of their own home, do you guys feel it's necessary to tip? Do you tip?Tipping is integral to the service industry. If you have been serviced, tip.

Dr Manhattan
06-07-17, 17:14
Just curious guys. I understand tipping at a mp, because they have to give a share to the house but for private MPs that work out of their own home, do you guys feel it's necessary to tip? Do you tip?

As you get more into the hobby, you'll notice that the in-home, independent therapists who charge double and beyond the typical massage parlor door fee, are often including the basic extras in their pricing. Bear in mind, that some of these women are legit and simply have an over inflated sense of their worth. Always good to see if they've been reviewed first.

ChineseDragon
06-07-17, 18:57
What would you guys say is the best mp in the city? Got an extra day off work and looking to treat myself, please PM me recommendations with a few details if you can, I need it to be within city limits.What you looking for FS HJ or good massage.

ChicagoCat99
06-07-17, 22:50
Cheapest indys on BP is $100 QV or HH, and that's already a rare option, especially in this town. $100 for happy ending in an Asian massage parlor with rolling the dice on how much older of the girl than what you expect and how much luck you get additional roaming actions etc. is also sort of standard. Therefore, with $50 or $60 more, in exchange of younger girls with promised happy ending should not be something you have to complain, especially if your goal is the RELIEF, not the thrill of hunting.

$150 at Asian parlor indeed should include more service items with quality, only because their pricing has been one-step down given mainly the ethnicity and the pricing difference between here and their homeland. Yet, nothing in Asian parlor is guaranteed nor as advertised. Always YMMV. Hence the legitimate rip-off notion about $150 in relation to service quality.

Alternatively, www.tantricas-usa.com is the perfect example, the girls are young, Americans, with all races (over years), $160 covers a rub and happy ending. Girls pretty much strip down to thong or nothing. And you get to shower if you want, often the girl will shower with you too. As long as one of the girls appeals to you, you really shouldn't complain, because the pics are accurate and you know exactly what you can get. There are a few places like that on BP, prices are pretty much identical, at least the door fee part. Unless you only want to be jerked off by older Asian women, iff happy ending is only what you need in the hobby, then I don't know how you may complain about the guaranteed service with these places.

If you are a thrill seeker and are only fond of older Asian women, then it will be a different story. Still, race aside, $100 tip would get you BBBJ (most likely) at Logan Tantricas, and you can still get the chance to charm the girl to spread her legs and welcome your cock. This is the YMMV part that you can enjoy. The only thing is, you will end up paying $300-$400 when you succeed, just like how some of us pay that same money for a GFE with a higher quality indy escort or a girl from agencies like CEM (then EEC), CEC, ECE, Wet'and'Wild, etc.

The pricing structure is incredibly stable in this hobby, based on my experience in all parts of the States. The tiers are pretty much the same. The differences are the availability of supply at different tiers, and certainly the level of talent. It's your money, no one have any say on how you want to spend it. But you also need to know, you will get what you pay for if you have done your homework and understand how the pricing structure works.

Keep chasing cheap thrills on BP is unlikely to save you money without research effort because you have to account for all the disappointments and the extra efforts that you need to sink in for that needed relief. Image you use the wasted time to drive Uber, you'd pretty much earn the money to afford the more expensive options.There must be something I missed out.

I am just saying this depending on my experience after 26 places visit.

There is Latina touch on North Ave. They said body rub with massage (40 minutes) is $50. It's store front, so they have rent.

Julia said her body rub is $30 for 20 minutes.

When I was in D&B massage in Glen ellyn, a young Chinese girl (Tian) helped me. It was $10 for table shower and it was about 15 minutes.

When I was in Garden spa in Downer's grove, it was $70 including table shower, dry sauna and massage.

I hope she will do well, but I am just telling my opinion.

ChicagoCat99
06-07-17, 22:58
Not only she offered great massage in full hour for $50, she offered me drink and talk.

She asked me sit down and we talked almost one hour in the sofa.

For some reasons, she deep cleaned house and decorated very nicely as if it's Pier one import showroom.

I feel she massaged my soul as well.

Niceguy99
06-08-17, 11:08
What you looking for FS HJ or good massage.Definitely a good HJ at the least.

CoolPatrick
06-08-17, 11:44
And your description is on point as far as I can tell from my experience. $70 at Garden Spa for those items is definitely good, I'm saying the HE is not always a sure thing, especially if $70 for full hour without tip. YMMV.

Another way to look at it is Julia will ask for $90 for a full hour (assuming you will get the HE), and thus we are talking about $70 difference between Julia and Logan Tantrica. Whether $70 difference is worth it depends certainly on how you like the age and appearance of the providers.

Mostly, we are talking about different segments of the hobby market. I'm sure your spending on the similar parlors should be around the same range, but it is unlikely you got HE at every place with every provider. In that scene, $150 is indeed a lot higher than normal, which should be matched with exceptional service. My point is with $150 you can visit places / providers who provides more and also being younger and better looking.


There must be something I missed out.

I am just saying this depending on my experience after 26 places visit.

There is Latina touch on North Ave. They said body rub with massage (40 minutes) is $50. It's store front, so they have rent.

Julia said her body rub is $30 for 20 minutes.

When I was in D&B massage in Glen ellyn, a young Chinese girl (Tian) helped me. It was $10 for table shower and it was about 15 minutes.

When I was in Garden spa in Downer's grove, it was $70 including table shower, dry sauna and massage.

I hope she will do well, but I am just telling my opinion.

StanCopier
06-08-17, 12:12
Anyone have experience going to this spa?

https://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/thp/6166979143.html

Walker333
06-08-17, 15:34
Anyone have experience going to this spa?

https://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/thp/6166979143.htmlI've never been there, but I've seen this photo many times over a prolonged period of time. It's probably years and years old.

Walker333
06-08-17, 15:38
And your description is on point as far as I can tell from my experience. $70 at Garden Spa for those items is definitely good, I'm saying the HE is not always a sure thing, especially if $70 for full hour without tip. YMMV.

Another way to look at it is Julia will ask for $90 for a full hour (assuming you will get the HE), and thus we are talking about $70 difference between Julia and Logan Tantrica. Whether $70 difference is worth it depends certainly on how you like the age and appearance of the providers.

Mostly, we are talking about different segments of the hobby market. I'm sure your spending on the similar parlors should be around the same range, but it is unlikely you got HE at every place with every provider. In that scene, $150 is indeed a lot higher than normal, which should be matched with exceptional service. My point is with $150 you can visit places / providers who provides more and also being younger and better looking.It's like with scotch, you will get drunk with either $15 and / or $150 a bottle, but the aftertaste is different.

TomDoe
06-08-17, 17:47
Went to three different places all about 4 blocks from each other on Chicago. All three had different experiences but all pretty decent. I am very new to AMP even though I've been doing research forever on.

Them.

First one was t pro, I was met with an older lady, somewhat on the chubbier side. Was not expecting her but she gave me the massage, no attraction to her but got a legit massage. 30 min price was 45 tipped 25 no he, nor did I try to roam.

Tao was next, younger lady nice body. Did not talk much but was extremely giggly. OK massage, some ass play and a little teasing, which I like. 30 min price was 40 with he instantly on the flip. Tip was 60. Some roaming but did not allow a lot.

Sister was the last of the three and newest establishment. Middle aged lady, decent looking and dressed very sexy. Again, massage was just OK. However lots of teasing and ass play. She also allowed a decent amount of roaming. On the flip some more teasing, no he but given the OK to finish myself. Not the expected outcome but still happy with service. 45 for massage tipped 40.

MrEsquire
06-08-17, 18:12
Finally after reading around decided to try it out.

Went to King Spa in Oak Park as a walk in. Decided on an hr as I was in pain and needed a nice massage. Greeted by older nice Asian woman with nice rack in dress. Took money upfront and told me to get naked and lay on table. The massage was really good and she listened well. She was nice the whole time.

She definitely talked about previous clients good and bad which I didn't care for but it didn't stop / distract her from working. Literally worked all areas I asked for and did a great job.

And then came the flip and she basically just grabbed and started rubbing me before I even asked or knew it was on the menu LOL. I only had $ and she said next time HE is. 60. She got to right to the HE with a lovely 2 hand technique that was damn effective and amazing while letting me roam. After she cleaned me off and I was on my way feeling like a new man.

FS and BJ was on menu for $ and $.20.

Will be going back.

Anyone try Latina Touch in Oak Park on North Ave?

Any extras there?

I saw that and a couple other spots like wellness and another I can't think of on North ave.

Thanks.

ChicagoCat99
06-08-17, 22:42
And your description is on point as far as I can tell from my experience. $70 at Garden Spa for those items is definitely good, I'm saying the HE is not always a sure thing, especially if $70 for full hour without tip. YMMV.

Another way to look at it is Julia will ask for $90 for a full hour (assuming you will get the HE), and thus we are talking about $70 difference between Julia and Logan Tantrica. Whether $70 difference is worth it depends certainly on how you like the age and appearance of the providers.

Mostly, we are talking about different segments of the hobby market. I'm sure your spending on the similar parlors should be around the same range, but it is unlikely you got HE at every place with every provider. In that scene, $150 is indeed a lot higher than normal, which should be matched with exceptional service. My point is with $150 you can visit places / providers who provides more and also being younger and better looking.To me, $65 is pretty much the limit.

And, she does not have to call for $150 upfront. I will pay certain service upfront and pay tip if anything satisfying comes after. It's my discretion.

I paid $100 and $80 for grandmas before. But, they asked $40 and $60 upfront.

Something came, so I paid $60 tip. I declined something and paid $20 tip.

P.S. :

Julia's massage + body rub is $90 ($60 + $30). But, it's not 1 hr, but 1 hour 20 minutes.

I much would rather go for Tian's $10 TS for 15 cheaper price than a white grandma.

I like to help little guys, but I am not crazy.

ChicagoCat99
06-08-17, 22:57
When I was at Grace's place, she wore a bit provocative clothes.

Her nail and toe nails were all polished red.

I did not wear towel. But, she grabbed it and folded it few times to make it smaller and covered my ass.

Then, she invited me to sofa after massage with drink.

I did not know she is divorced woman without a child. She is legit, but I am sure if she look for a boyfriend.

Nice house.

I like her massage.

$50 + $20 tip = $70 total.

Daytime Jay
06-09-17, 10:21
Anyone have experience going to this spa?

https://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/thp/6166979143.htmlI drive past this all the time. It is at a busy intersection, so probably better to go at night. I think it was reported on before in this forum.

Pilatus65
06-09-17, 11:00
When I was at Grace's place, she wore a bit provocative clothes.

Her nail and toe nails were all polished red.

I did not wear towel. But, she grabbed it and folded it few times to make it smaller and covered my ass.

Then, she invited me to sofa after massage with drink.

I did not know she is divorced woman without a child. She is legit, but I am sure if she look for a boyfriend.

Nice house.

I like her massage.

$50 + $20 tip = $70 total.Con's: Location is hard to find, inconvenient unless one resides on southwest side, massage is boring, and therapist is non-communicative. Maybe have to speak her language or share ethnicity.

MrEsquire
06-09-17, 15:02
Going often could get pricey.

Went back to KS a couple weeks after first visit and she remembered me and seemed quite happy.

I decided on 30 minutes this time as I think my hr session only lasted 50 minutes. As soon as she came in the room she hugged me and was more forward and aggressive.

She put forth even more effort on the massage this visit, amazing job. I thought due to only being 30 minutes it would be rushed but she spent equal time on each section. On the flip I chose a CBJ, it was ok and effective but for the price I wouldn't choose it again. The funny thing is after the pop I was still hard and asked if she could do a HJ as well. She wasn't happy at about it but did it. I got a great deal and felt relieved and thanked her. I got a nice slap on the ass on the way out and hug.

Only been there so far but want to try other MP in the area.

Is there a way to tell if the provider doesn't do HE or does before flip?

I Don't want to offend the person or be disrespectful if they are legit and there are no extras.

Thanks.

ChicagoCat99
06-09-17, 15:39
Con's: Location is hard to find, inconvenient unless one resides on southwest side, massage is boring, and therapist is non-communicative. Maybe have to speak her language or share ethnicity.I am not a Polish or White. It was easy on highway from NW suburb.

Her attitude was much nicer in second visit after she recognized me.

She wore low cut blouse showing a bit of nipples.

I just like to be naked in front of her (She did not have to use the palm size towel.).

I guess she is a law abiding citizen. But, she may be a woman with healthy desire as well.

And, it is OK she meets a man personally.

At the end, she asked where I usually eat. I felt she kind of invite me for dinner, but decided to leave.

(I felt I did not give her enough money for that.)

I hope I will be naked even on the sofa next time.

Otherwise, I will have the nice massage as before. I saw a couple of certificates in the room and it helped my hypertension.

P.S.:

She is on Craigslist all the time. She said it's getting slower, so my reviews would help.

Seraph2
06-09-17, 17:54
Going often could get pricey.

Went back to KS a couple weeks after first visit and she remembered me and seemed quite happy.

I decided on 30 minutes this time as I think my hr session only lasted 50 minutes. As soon as she came in the room she hugged me and was more forward and aggressive.

She put forth even more effort on the massage this visit, amazing job. I thought due to only being 30 minutes it would be rushed but she spent equal time on each section. On the flip I chose a CBJ, it was ok and effective but for the price I wouldn't choose it again. The funny thing is after the pop I was still hard and asked if she could do a HJ as well. She wasn't happy at about it but did it. I got a great deal and felt relieved and thanked her. I got a nice slap on the ass on the way out and hug.

Only been there so far but want to try other MP in the area.

Is there a way to tell if the provider doesn't do HE or does before flip?

I Don't want to offend the person or be disrespectful if they are legit and there are no extras.

Thanks.Who is KS?

MrEsquire
06-09-17, 22:16
Who is KS?It's King Spa.

ChicagoCat99
06-09-17, 22:22
It's long story, but I have ejaculation headache. That's why I chose her on Wed.

But, still, she did not cover me much, so I don't know what she was thinking. I felt she hesitated, but went for head and face massage eventually.

I just feel comfortable since she never pushed me for extra.

Still, I want to be naked all the time to see what she wants to do. If she does not want anything, that's fine with me.

Al Bundy78
06-10-17, 09:26
Has anyone tried this place? Is it worth visiting?

https://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/thp/6169202923.html

Member #5942
06-10-17, 12:50
Has anyone tried this place? Is it worth visiting?

https://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/thp/6169202923.htmlAl Bundy of Polk High: Same as every other AMP. Standard and more available.

In a small store mall. Parking available. Girl looks 5 out of 10.

Walker333
06-10-17, 13:11
It's long story, but I have ejaculation headache We all do to some extent. .

Al Bundy78
06-10-17, 19:12
Al Bundy of Polk High: Same as every other AMP. Standard and more available.

In a small store mall. Parking available. Girl looks 5 out of 10.You know, I did score 4 touchdowns in a single game. Thanks for the info!

Walker333
06-12-17, 10:29
You know, I did score 4 touchdowns in a single game. Thanks for the info!What does that mean?

SpaGuy21
06-12-17, 10:55
What does that mean?TV show reference. Married With Children, Al Bundy.

Rocket Dork
06-12-17, 12:32
What does that mean?You have to watch the show. Al (the husband) was a loser but always brought up how he scored 4 touchdown in high school. Really stupid show but I loved it, Especially Al Bundy. Rocket Dork.

Niceguy99
06-12-17, 12:47
You have to watch the show. Al (the husband) was a loser but always brought up how he scored 4 touchdown in high school. Really stupid show but I loved it, Especially Al Bundy. Rocket Dork.Classic show. Loved watching it growing up.

Walker333
06-12-17, 14:09
You have to watch the show. Al (the husband) was a loser but always brought up how he scored 4 touchdown in high school. Really stupid show but I loved it, Especially Al Bundy. Rocket Dork.Ooohhh! Ha-ha-ha.

My tasteless, frivolous imagination came up with a different interpretation.

ChicagoCat99
06-12-17, 15:40
We all do to some extent. .I found it's gone today. Maybe her massage was helpful.

She said I can come as late as 8:30 PM and she hope for longer massage since it's easy job for her.

I can have two hours massage if she wants. It's still $120 even including tips ($50 + $50 + $20). She always completes times.

Walker333
06-12-17, 17:22
I found it's gone today. Maybe her massage was helpful.

She said I can come as late as 8:30 PM and she hope for longer massage since it's easy job for her.

I can have two hours massage if she wants. It's still $120 even including tips ($50 + $50 + $20). She always completes times.Who is "she?

Yes may pm.

KurtHendrix3
06-12-17, 22:44
Who is "she?

Yes may pm.I think he meant Grace. Take a look at his another post in the next page.

KurtHendrix3
06-12-17, 22:44
Al Bundy of Polk High: Same as every other AMP. Standard and more available.

In a small store mall. Parking available. Girl looks 5 out of 10.What're the ages of the girls there?

Enyoda
06-13-17, 07:59
Have a wife that just won't put out no matter how much I explain to her what I need. Trying to figure out the system, not sure how to detect fakes / scams. Just looking for a great HE, BBBJ ideally. Should I ask upfront? Any experience with these?

https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/thp/6174250746.html

https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/thp/6173687566.html

https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/thp/6173754827.html

https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/thp/6173838024.html

Pilatus65
06-13-17, 10:34
I think he meant Grace. Take a look at his another post in the next page.If it is the CL Grace, you're not missing anything. Hard to decipher this guy's posts. It's all over the place.

Dr Manhattan
06-13-17, 13:59
Have a wife that just won't put out no matter how much I explain to her what I need. Trying to figure out the system, not sure how to detect fakes / scams. Just looking for a great HE, BBBJ ideally. Should I ask upfront? Any experience with these?

https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/thp/6174250746.html

https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/thp/6173687566.html

https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/thp/6173754827.html

https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/thp/6173838024.htmlFirst link is for a masseuse in Mchenry County. She'll reply immediately with a photo. Photo is apparently accurate and she uses a table. I get the impression that you'd leave relaxed. I haven't seen her yet, as I don't make it to Mchenry often.

Second link is a favorite of mine for massage. Photo is accurate. Petite brunette around 30. She is Euro, thus slightly paranoid if you poke around with too many questions or make blunt requests.

If you are new to the massage scene - Welcome. You are best off reading all the reviews you can to make an informed decision. Once you see a provider, please leave a decent review to build member trust. Otherwise, new requests for info will leave you with the sound of crickets.

Walker333
06-13-17, 15:22
Have a wife that just won't put out no matter how much I explain to her what I need. Trying to figure out the system, not sure how to detect fakes / scams. Just looking for a great HE, BBBJ ideally. Should I ask upfront? Any experience with these?

https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/thp/6174250746.html

https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/thp/6173687566.html

https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/thp/6173754827.html

https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/thp/6173838024.htmlTheoretically they all do, but. It takes accumulation of trust an consistency with good tipping.

Just pick one, try and don't forget to report here.

Good luck.

ChicagoCat99
06-13-17, 16:06
If it is the CL Grace, you're not missing anything. Hard to decipher this guy's posts. It's all over the place.I have to put you in ignore list. Very rude.