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NotASexAddict2
09-06-21, 14:08
She just started posting in our area yesterday (Sunday) doubt anyone on this forum has seen her as yet, but she looks TGTBT?Some obvious common sense can weed this one out. A girl with looks like that on LC offering the whole kitchen sink? I don't think so.

And here's a link with her pics showing a trans profile:

https://www.shemalewiki.com/?id=987&profileid=7298&lan=en

So maybe she's real. But. Well, you know.

BusHunter69
09-06-21, 14:39
I'm looking for leads on escorts, streetwalkers, massage girls whatever that are sporting a hairy, bushy, unshaven pussy. Pm me with details. Not many girls out there with a 70's Bush anymore. I'm always asking because things are always changing. Thanks for your help.

OaklandT309
09-06-21, 17:34
Maybe everyone already knows this, but the problem with SB sites is the membership fee and wading through profiles looking for the ones indicating discreet affairs and NSA. Then you got to contact them and circumspectly ask questions and possibly set up a meet to find out if they are providers. Well, forget the fees. There's no fee to simply join and browse the SB sites. Just peruse pics and compare pics with the escort sites. You cut out the membership fee to communicate and get straight to business. Here's an example. One pic is from callescort, the other from What's Your Price?

https://callescort.org/248-622-2486

Good reviews on EB too.

https://escortbabylon.net/image_list/2486222486

NotASexAddict2
09-06-21, 19:48
The ad says "your favorite redhead". That'd be false advertising!.
I better ask when I call so I'm not caught unprepared.After complimenting her, I will now slap her in the face (metaphorically).

I set up to meet her today after spotty comms all weekend. She had me drive all the way to Romulus just to ghost me like she's never seen me before in her life. It's like these twits think only their time is valuable. No patience for time wasters anymore, so another one bites the dust.

NightHawk247
09-06-21, 21:21
She just started posting in our area yesterday (Sunday) doubt anyone on this forum has seen her as yet, but she looks TGTBT?That looks like handcuffs.

LotharioPK
09-06-21, 22:04
Anyone have a good provider near Southfield or FH that does BBBJ? Just moved into the area and there seems to be a lot of fakes listed in the area.Both Peggy (GILF) and Delilah (mid thirties) will give you a nice BBBJ. Peggy moves around a lot lately but was in FH on Saturday. Delilah has been in nearby Livonia for a while.

Peggy: https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/detroit/66671058#.

Delilah: https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/detroit/66726970.

Sid63
09-06-21, 22:21
After complimenting her, I will now slap her in the face (metaphorically).

I set up to meet her today after spotty comms all weekend. She had me drive all the way to Romulus just to ghost me like she's never seen me before in her life. It's like these twits think only their time is valuable. No patience for time wasters anymore, so another one bites the dust.She is SO hard to pin down it's ridiculous. Hours and hours of wasting your time. It's bad.

She could do so much better. I don't know what the deal is.

OaklandT309
09-06-21, 22:48
She is SO hard to pin down it's ridiculous. Hours and hours of wasting your time. It's bad.

She could do so much better. I don't know what the deal is.FWIW, she replied this evening to a message I sent this morning, apologizing for the delay because her phone had been messed up. I replied it was NP and asked if she did outcall as Romulus is an hr drive. She just replied Yes, and answered a couple questions about her time of day availability and a couple other things. It was a complete answer, not just yes and / or no. IOWs, lucid. She also asked to pre-arrange a meet tomorrow. And she says her hair is mixed red & blond now.

So, IDK. You guys' experience makes me cautious, but her response keeps me hopeful. If it happens I'll report.

OaklandT309
09-06-21, 22:51
That looks like handcuffs.She can handcuff and have her way with me. She's effing hot.

JDoe1969
09-06-21, 23:27
I'm looking to setup something nice this week. I have a few I'm interested in. Anyone seen Ava Michele? https://adultsearch.com/michigan/detroit/female-escorts/2530473.

JDoe1969
09-06-21, 23:31
Any thoughts on this one please? https://adultsearch.com/michigan/detroit/female-escorts/2335212.

WinterKnight
09-07-21, 00:54
Here's her link.

Just know that she can be quite difficult to get something set up with. I've had a couple different appointments set up the day prior. And when I texted about 1 hour before our appointment to confirm, crickets.

https://detroit.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/post/315357724721And you were just feeling sorry for the rest of us? LOL.

To clarify my earlier statement on my "reliable regulars" — I have been seeing them biweekly for a year, and usually they answer within an hour or less, we agree on an appointment time later that morning or afternoon, I arrive at the appointed time and all goes very well. Once in awhile, they don't answer and I might not hear from one of them for awhile. They have their own lives.

WinterKnight
09-07-21, 00:59
I have only been in the hobby a little over six months and I only indulge every two weeks on average so my experience is limited, but I am really intrigued by the concept of "a regular". On the one hand having a regular provider could be kind of nice in terms of fostering the whole GFE thang, improving Your Mileage May Vary to Your Mileage Is Good and likely reduces scheduling anxiety. What I'm currently struggling with, honestly, is emotional attachment. Now before you guys dump on me for turning this into a kumbaya feelings session, I have a valid biochemical concern. As I understand it, recent research shows that women imprint quickly on their sexual partners until repeatedly taking new partners "burns out" that mechanism so they lose the ability to imprint, or love, anyone. I think that is part of the development of what I call "the thousand wad stare" (I'm considering copyrighting that phrase), where after a girl has been with too many guys she loses the ability to form a strong bond. Men are different, they can freely skip from partner ot partner until repeatedly having sex with one or more forms a strong connection in his mind. To put it briefly (too late) I haved been concerned about falling for my 3 ATFs and the effects that would have on me. So, I have decided to avoid my ATFs for the most part for a while while I develop a thicker skin and learn to compartmentalize my emotions regarding sex.

Has anyone else had a similar experience? Any coping strategies to share?I believe if you avoid your ATF's, they will soon become someone else's ATF's. I should think having three ATF's simultaneously would prevent you from falling for one over the other two.

WinterKnight
09-07-21, 01:20
FWIW, You and I aren't that far apart in age.

In regard to the skin thickening / compartmentalization process, It might be a difficult thing to do but for your own well being, you have to do it.

Aside from that, if you truly wanted to have a relationship, what do you really have in common with a 18-23 year old girl. Aside from the fact that you like pussy and she likes money? Are you going to go down memory lane together and reminisce about things that happened two or three decades before she was born? Maybe you'll have long conversations about how good the latest hip hop bands are and why you think that Billie Eilish is so much better than Taylor Swift? I'm sure you'll look great with her when you go dancing and you're engulfed in a sea of twenty somethings on a crowded dance floor. You don't want grandpa stepping on them. She might look good to your friends as your arm candy once or twice but after that, of course, both of you will eventually be objects of ridicule to your peer groups. You can guarantee that her eye will always be roving too.

But, Billie Eilish better than Taylor Swift? Come on, man. I love Billie Eilish, really I do, but you're talking blasphemy. LOL.

WinterKnight
09-07-21, 01:24
We do what we want, when we want, with who we want, we don't have to justify anything to anyone, our money is all our own, we don't have to deal with live in mood swings or emotional devastation AND if we want to put a canoe in our living room, who's going to tell us that we can't?You are absolutely right. My wife tells me I can't put our kayaks or our bikes in the living room. I mean, WTF?

WinterKnight
09-07-21, 01:31
I think you've just described the skin thickening / compartmentalization process I need to through. Meanwhile, I'm still exploring and currently looking for a really socially inappropriate (but legal) age-gap date. I'm turning 60 soon, whatcha got?I found my 20 yo ATF Nikki walking when I was sixty, you could try looking on the street. I saw for the better part of a couple years. We had a few dates as well. Some of the beat times of my life. She's been out of the life a couple years now.

WinterKnight
09-07-21, 01:39
I have no illusions / delusions about a meaningful relationship with a twenty-something and as far as walking down memory lane it would be me taking the walk to just remember what it's like to f*ck twenty-something p*ssy. I actually imagine I will be disappointed with the second 30 min of an hour date with a twenty-something exactly because we have nothing to pillowtalk about. That's one reason I started with the Peggys and Shellys, so that we would at least have some things in common. Sorry, I didn't mean to conflate the compartmentalization thing with the youngster date thing. But, I am still weighing my options for a twenty something early next week.Do it. See her. Trust me, you will never regret f*cking a 20-yo girl. And you will find things in common, as other posters have said.

NotASexAddict2
09-07-21, 02:05
She is SO hard to pin down it's ridiculous. Hours and hours of wasting your time. It's bad.

She could do so much better. I don't know what the deal is.Yeah, she made things up to me though. She took her time (boy did she) but she's great as ever.

SprinkMan
09-07-21, 07:22
Both Peggy (GILF) and Delilah (mid thirties) will give you a nice BBBJ. Peggy moves around a lot lately but was in FH on Saturday. Delilah has been in nearby Livonia for a while.

Peggy: https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/detroit/66671058#.

Delilah: https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/detroit/66726970.Peggy doesn't swallow, Delilah does.

OaklandT309
09-07-21, 08:18
Peggy doesn't swallow, Delilah does.Is swallowing really that big a deal? I often see in the Comments section of the reviews on Escort Babylon guys seemingly complaining that the girl didn't swallow. Jeez, they're getting a BBBJCIM and they complain because she didn't swallow it too? Some girls like the taste, some don't. And by the same token some guys' cum doesn't taste bad, others' are rank and nasty. If she doesn't swallow maybe it's not her, maybe it's your diet. But if they're compelled to compete with other providers on that aspect it's no wonder these girls' prices are rising. Swallowing or not doesn't even register on my must-have list. GFE / DFK, DATY, BBBJ, her body, her face, if she smokes cigarettes or not (girls who smoke have sweeter tasting pussy, it's a pH thing, really); those are factors in my book, not swallowing. Just my 2 cents.

OaklandT309
09-07-21, 09:11
Peggy doesn't swallow, Delilah does.I'd do Delilah in a heartbeat. Unfortunately I've tried messaging her a couple times and never got a response. Peggy? Not my type; I like to keep some lights on if you get my drift.

OaklandT309
09-07-21, 09:24
After complimenting her, I will now slap her in the face (metaphorically).

I set up to meet her today after spotty comms all weekend. She had me drive all the way to Romulus just to ghost me like she's never seen me before in her life. It's like these twits think only their time is valuable. No patience for time wasters anymore, so another one bites the dust.In light of your experience being ghosted I'm thinking it might be a best practice to always have a back up or two in the same area to hit up in a pinch if you get ghosted. There's a good handful in the DTW area I'd like to tap, so I wouldn't be unhappy having to go to a 2nd or 3rd option. Sure, I'd be annoyed at being ghosted, but it's her loss in the end. I wouldn't hit her up again.

HellKite10
09-07-21, 10:20
Looking at Eros and found two beaut ladies that have the same number. It's true to be possible they work for an agency and showing off the girls who're available. I've looked into Eros before and never gave much thought about the idea it might be a setup. Verified or not, I remember someone posted an ad from the website and found out it was a fake. Wanted to share with the men. Be safe boyz!

https://www.eros.com/michigan/files/4668318.htm?cat=6208&wn=1

https://www.eros.com/michigan/files/5691405.htm?cat=6208&wn=1

Sid63
09-07-21, 10:35
I'd do Delilah in a heartbeat. Unfortunately I've tried messaging her a couple times and never got a response. Peggy? Not my type; I like to keep some lights on if you get my drift.Delilah is hard to get a hold of during the day it seems. Never tried at night.

RobertSeeks
09-07-21, 10:37
Looking at Eros and found two beaut ladies that have the same number. It's true to be possible they work for an agency and showing off the girls who're available. I've looked into Eros before and never gave much thought about the idea it might be a setup. Verified or not, I remember someone posted an ad from the website and found out it was a fake. Wanted to share with the men. Be safe boyz!

https://www.eros.com/michigan/files/4668318.htm?cat=6208&wn=1

https://www.eros.com/michigan/files/5691405.htm?cat=6208&wn=1I suppose it could be a fake agency. Phone number and pictures lead to https://www.t7h.net/ The Seventh Heaven agency.

Sid63
09-07-21, 10:37
In light of your experience being ghosted I'm thinking it might be a best practice to always have a back up or two in the same area to hit up in a pinch if you get ghosted. There's a good handful in the DTW area I'd like to tap, so I wouldn't be unhappy having to go to a 2nd or 3rd option. Sure, I'd be annoyed at being ghosted, but it's her loss in the end. I wouldn't hit her up again.Completely agree. I'll usually hit 3/4/5 up if the first doesn't respond within 15 minutes.

I then head to the area and hit them up. Recently even that has not worked well. Again I do this in the afternoon so maybe that's the big issue.

OaklandT309
09-07-21, 10:44
Looking at Eros and found two beaut ladies that have the same number. It's true to be possible they work for an agency and showing off the girls who're available. I've looked into Eros before and never gave much thought about the idea it might be a setup. Verified or not, I remember someone posted an ad from the website and found out it was a fake. Wanted to share with the men. Be safe boyz!

https://www.eros.com/michigan/files/4668318.htm?cat=6208&wn=1

https://www.eros.com/michigan/files/5691405.htm?cat=6208&wn=1I don't think EROS is any more reliable re legit providers than doing your due diligence and reading reports here. There are some that even expect you to subscribe to their OF because they supposedly get so many inquires it's the only way for them to weed out tire-kickers. Utter nonsense. You may as well be sending a deposit to some chick; and we all know what happens to deposits.

OaklandT309
09-07-21, 10:50
Completely agree. I'll usually hit 3/4/5 up if the first doesn't respond within 15 minutes.

I then head to the area and hit them up. Recently even that has not worked well. Again I do this in the afternoon so maybe that's the big issue.Mornings and afternoons do seem much more problematic. I assume they're up all night and sleep most of the daylight hours. But WTF, if they're responding during those hours then ghost you because they fall asleep that's just bad business. I imagine it's part of the reason girls complain about no-shows. We have to resort to hiring up several so we take the one that actually comes though first. What do they expect?

Incognito1234
09-07-21, 11:20
So this girl is crazy?

https://detroit.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/sexy-sweet-and-petite/318957211562

Incognito1234
09-07-21, 11:22
You are absolutely right. My wife tells me I can't put our kayaks or our bikes in the living room. I mean, WTF?LOL! Yep! Get rid of that Home Interior stuff, baby. There's a new theme in town!

Incognito1234
09-07-21, 11:26
I'm looking for leads on escorts, streetwalkers, massage girls whatever that are sporting a hairy, bushy, unshaven pussy. Pm me with details. Not many girls out there with a 70's Bush anymore. I'm always asking because things are always changing. Thanks for your help.Ugh. Not my thing but there's a chair for every ass. This girl has been around a while and has been reviewed but I can't remember if the reviews were good or bad.

https://detroit.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/summer-rein-5864608849/703495267894

Incognito1234
09-07-21, 11:28
Yes I remember her being in Pontiac and she had her massage table set-up in an upstairs room. She still provided FS though. I have not seen her since her move to Chicago and after she has had a kid. She has priced herself out of my interest.Yeah, the last time I saw her was out of the Pontiac house too. I had no idea she had a kid though.

Aerodon
09-07-21, 12:21
Any good Intel on this one:

https://xescorthub.com/info/saginaw/female-escorts/call-469-526-7912-find-karen-182113181294927872

Kinger19
09-07-21, 14:46
Hey guys,

Anyone had the pleasure yet?

https://www.eros.com/michigan/files/9464892.htm?cat=197

Kinger19
09-07-21, 14:51
Looking at Eros and found two beaut ladies that have the same number. It's true to be possible they work for an agency and showing off the girls who're available. I've looked into Eros before and never gave much thought about the idea it might be a setup. Verified or not, I remember someone posted an ad from the website and found out it was a fake. Wanted to share with the men. Be safe boyz!

https://www.eros.com/michigan/files/4668318.htm?cat=6208&wn=1

https://www.eros.com/michigan/files/5691405.htm?cat=6208&wn=1I have used this agency multiple times in the past. They are safe and easy to book with. Hotels have also been nice!

OaklandT309
09-07-21, 15:34
Hey guys,

Anyone had the pleasure yet?

https://www.eros.com/michigan/files/9464892.htm?cat=197No full face pic, no dice.

OaklandT309
09-07-21, 15:35
Looking at Eros and found two beaut ladies that have the same number. It's true to be possible they work for an agency and showing off the girls who're available. I've looked into Eros before and never gave much thought about the idea it might be a setup. Verified or not, I remember someone posted an ad from the website and found out it was a fake. Wanted to share with the men. Be safe boyz!

https://www.eros.com/michigan/files/4668318.htm?cat=6208&wn=1

https://www.eros.com/michigan/files/5691405.htm?cat=6208&wn=1How do you know they are beauties with their faces blurred-out?

RayLatoole
09-07-21, 15:35
Hey guys,

Anyone had the pleasure yet?

https://www.eros.com/michigan/files/9464892.htm?cat=197Is this the former Blair morningwood? Looks similar.

StoneMaker
09-07-21, 15:40
I couldn't see whether to not she had an Adam's apple but if someone said for sure it was a guy I'd believe it. Big chest means nothing; falsies.The curiosity has peaked my interest. I'll be seeing her later tonight. I'll report as whether an Adam's apple is present. She is very responsive via text.

OaklandT309
09-07-21, 17:23
The curiosity has peaked my interest. I'll be seeing her later tonight. I'll report as whether an Adam's apple is present. She is very responsive via text.Her ad says no texting.

Incognito1234
09-07-21, 17:39
Where there is an apple, there is a banana.

NoBuddy5051
09-07-21, 18:58
Any good Intel on this one:

https://xescorthub.com/info/saginaw/female-escorts/call-469-526-7912-find-karen-182113181294927872

https://www.google.com/search?q=emily+willis+pornstar&sxsrf=AOaemvL23 koVXN784 vzTFpg4 gKvpyK8 yng:1631055479388&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2 ahUKEwi2 pNST--3 yAhUbV80 KHbWNDcoQ_AUoAnoECAEQBA&biw=1639&bih=761 Look here

Aerodon
09-07-21, 19:33
https://www.google.com/search?q=emily+willis+pornstar&sxsrf=AOaemvL23 koVXN784 vzTFpg4 gKvpyK8 yng:1631055479388&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2 ahUKEwi2 pNST--3 yAhUbV80 KHbWNDcoQ_AUoAnoECAEQBA&biw=1639&bih=761 Look hereThank you, suppose it's a fake!

Perusing
09-07-21, 19:42
How do you know they are beauties with their faces blurred-out?The Seventh Heaven agency. Must be a member to really look their site over. https://www.t7h.net/home.

DaveL7
09-07-21, 19:55
Hey guys,

Anyone had the pleasure yet?

https://www.eros.com/michigan/files/9464892.htm?cat=197I visited her Saturday. She is a stunner. Brazilian. Beautiful face. She speaks good English. Sexy accent. Her skin was amazing! Smelled great. We started making out as soon as I walked in the door. When you text the number. It's an agency or something. They will send a face pic.

TeeTime69
09-07-21, 20:04
You are absolutely right. My wife tells me I can't put our kayaks or our bikes in the living room. I mean, WTF?I'm limited to how many pairs of shoes I can leave next to my Easy Chair. Unfair, I tell you.

StoneMaker
09-07-21, 21:01
Where there is an apple, there is a banana.https://listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/michigan/detroit/66777186?origin_place=eb_provider_list

So I took the risk and saw this one. I asked her if she would be fully nude, only because that banana comment had me laughing and curious. She obliged and no banana present. She's very laid back and said she's 3 months pregnant. Accommodating and no hassles. Damage is $. 60 for a ss. Again, in a pinch not bad and she showered before I got there, which is always a plus.

SkinDogToo
09-07-21, 21:12
I visited her Saturday. She is a stunner. Brazilian. Beautiful face. She speaks good English. Sexy accent. Her skin was amazing! Smelled great. We started making out as soon as I walked in the door. When you text the number. It's an agency or something. They will send a face pic.Speaking of Brazilian, I got a text yesterday from (443) number indicating Julianna was visiting.

https://www.eros.com/michigan/files/4870726

Might TOFTT, she's hot!!

SkinDogToo
09-07-21, 21:18
The Seventh Heaven agency. Must be a member to really look their site over. https://www.t7h.net/home.Anyone a member and use them? What is avg donation? PM if you want. Thanks.

SlyGuy12
09-07-21, 21:22
The Seventh Heaven agency. Must be a member to really look their site over. https://www.t7h.net/home.In the early 90's I used to come to Detroit two days a week on business. This was back before the internet, so you had to look in the yellow pages under escort agency section. I found one I really liked, although I can't remember the name. You would just tell them what you were looking for and they would send them right to the hotel. Tell them you want a mid 20's blond, and boom one would show up an hour later. I got pretty familiar with the guy answering the phones, and I would ask for odd things to see if he could find someone that fit the bill. I thought I had him when I asked for an AA midget with a big rack. He had me though because that is exactly who showed up. It was a little more expensive because you had to pay an agency fee + escort fees, but I had a lot of fun with it while it lasted.

GoodKarmaGuy
09-07-21, 22:05
I visited her Saturday. She is a stunner. Brazilian. Beautiful face. She speaks good English. Sexy accent. Her skin was amazing! Smelled great. We started making out as soon as I walked in the door. When you text the number. It's an agency or something. They will send a face pic.What was the damage? Any specific rules? PM me if you would like to.

RandoJoe
09-07-21, 22:16
So some concerns I've had about getting into this side of the hobby:

One time I got a massage and got pulled over leaving the parlor I didn't get a ticket or arrested and pretty much refused to answer any questions. Nothing happened. I was in a storefront business so I didn't sweat it.

Obviously that's a way different situation than leaving a provider at a hotel. Have any of you guys got pulled over after? Can they send a warrant out later if they suspected you of anything even if they didn't write you up then like if the girl gets busted and she tries ratting you out? Or do they need to catch you in the act?

How do you handle people trying to dash or rob you? Is it smarter just to let the cash ride or to not back down from it?

HellKite10
09-07-21, 22:44
How do you know they are beauties with their faces blurred-out?LOL that is a fair point =P.

JDoe1969
09-07-21, 22:46
I visited her Saturday. She is a stunner. Brazilian. Beautiful face. She speaks good English. Sexy accent. Her skin was amazing! Smelled great. We started making out as soon as I walked in the door. When you text the number. It's an agency or something. They will send a face pic.What was the damage and location please?

HellKite10
09-07-21, 23:07
Before I met Julianna, I've contacted a few ladies which I'll list here and I got to say, their communication needs better communication and none offered GFE. An hour later, I'll get a response from them:

Patricia - https://www.eros.com/michigan/files/7673519.htm.

Valentina Diaz - https://www.eros.com/michigan/files/2210203.htm.

Luna - https://www.eros.com/michigan/files/2141006.htm.

Now with that out of the way, I want to share my experience with Julianna. Her pictures don't do her justice; exotic beauty when I met her at the door. Checking out the storm heading our way, I wanted to set up an appointment before it came. I get an immediate text from Juli saying she's alright with the time I picked. Damage was 5 for Hr and 4 for Hhr. Went with 5 because my gut was telling me to do so. Driving over there was a pain because of traffic. I contacted her again and told her I was going to run late, but she brought an idea I could start my session in another time. It was 30 minutes ahead. This told me she was (or is) understanding with the circumstances and she's willing to make things work if possible. Once I got to my destination, I texted her to let her know I was here (without being rushed). Juli wanted me to stay where I was because of maids cleaning out her room. So, it was a good thing I learned my lesson from last time because if I didn't, I would of called myself stupid. The hotel she's in was very nice; I've been there before and may not look like much of the outside, but the inside is nicely designed.

Within the hotel room, she wore a green dress and high heels. Hot damn! She greeted me with a quick peak on the lips and hug. I placed my donation, washed up, returned to her by holding her, Juli turned her head and smiled. Juli helped me relax because man I needed it from the last few weeks. As we were touching one another, we loosened our clothes. Juli guided me to the bed and touched some more. Even though her chest was small, the rest of her birthday suit was breath taking. With her menu, she offers GFE, BBBJ / CBJ, DATY, LFK, and FCS. Juli also offers an ear if you gents just want to talk to her. I lied down on the bed and Juli gave me those sexy eyes of hunger for my 'd'. Part of me thought she should of played the head a bit more, but what I think she was trying to do was for me to enjoy the CBJ as much as I could before I start pounding her. And boy did I. If done right by the angle, she'll moan for you. We both enjoyed ourselves, but it was one of those times that I couldn't get off because she wasn't tight; Juli was a bit loose. After trying DOGGY, MISH, COWGIRL, I wanted to DATY. She smiled at me and told me to enjoy myself. I've always enjoy pussy if clean. If you gents want to go down on her, please take your time. Don't rush it because she enjoys the slow motion of the tongue. I couldn't get hard again so Juli believed the best way to end was to HJ. I figured why not and I busted afterwords.

We had small talk after my session and she enjoyed my company. In fact, she was willing to share numbers. If you guys play nice too, then she'll ask you if it would be okay to have contact number. Of course she'll understand if you don't want to share contacts. Juli will stay until Saturday so if you guys want to get in touch with her, check out the website I left here. If anything I missed, I'll change it by editing this.

Hope this review helps.

https://www.eros.com/michigan/files/4870726.htm?cat=6208&wn=1

Vollan78
09-08-21, 01:40
So this girl is crazy?

https://detroit.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/sexy-sweet-and-petite/318957211562Search the forums for Courtney. If I recall, she has has some not so good reviews.

Jimbalaya
09-08-21, 05:33
Ran across ad of who appeared to be working out of the house in Pontiac with the other girls, but commanding the higher price point. Been quite a few back and forth about it, but now appears she's already moved on and prices jacked up even higher??

https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/michigan/detroit/66815730#.

WednesdayFun
09-08-21, 07:46
Ran across ad of who appeared to be working out of the house in Pontiac with the other girls, but commanding the higher price point. Been quite a few back and forth about it, but now appears she's already moved on and prices jacked up even higher??

https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/michigan/detroit/66815730#.Their later ad states $1500/ hr for both of them. They have to be smoking some hardcore shit.

OaklandT309
09-08-21, 08:13
Ran across ad of who appeared to be working out of the house in Pontiac with the other girls, but commanding the higher price point. Been quite a few back and forth about it, but now appears she's already moved on and prices jacked up even higher??

https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/michigan/detroit/66815730#.600/ hr for one?! But that makes 1500 for both for 2 hrs a super duper discount! LOLOL They must be on some serious delusion-inducing drugs. I'd love to have been a fly on the wall in that house to hear how it all went down. I had wondered a few days ago if the new girl's higher price point created any animosity. I guess it did.

DaveL7
09-08-21, 08:55
What was the damage and location please?300 for 1/2 hr. Not cheap. But AL OT of fun. Nice hotel in novi.

Taz41
09-08-21, 09:03
I think you've just described the skin thickening / compartmentalization process I need to through. Meanwhile, I'm still exploring and currently looking for a really socially inappropriate (but legal) age-gap date. I'm turning 60 soon, whatcha got?I scrolled through some of these. Even though you say you've "got real concerns" about an attachment, I don't buy that and she won't either. You say you're not looking for a relationship, but you're making it sound like you are. It sounds to me like you're giving yourself a reason to not accept that reality by saying there's some sort of process that you'll always be stuck in, even though you've lived nearly 60 years on this planet and you that's not how life works.

It's not a "compartmentalization process" to realize she's seeing you for money. That's what it is. If you can't (or don't want to) accept that, then perhaps you should be more open about what you want for what you are doing, rather than pretending it will be something you'll accept some day, when we and especially she knows otherwise. She has lots of regulars. She's seen them all more than you. She has no issue with it. You do and seem to be saying she'll develop one?

It could be a SB fits your needs. IDK what you're talking about 'skin thickening' though. It sounds like you're just allowing yourself to live in fantasy land where you may end up with the girl being attached to you. Let me share that any 20 something seeing a 60 y/o man even for pay won't respect what you've written here or find it attractive, so you may as well transition your thinking or be more honest about the issue being with you right now, and I would suggest it's you're not being honest about "being concerned you won't develop think skin." If that's the case... dude, don't go there with these women. They will figure out what you're looking like we all have quickly and exploit it in their own ways, whether you know it or not. You're an open book here so I'm sure women will have no problem realizing they can get what they want from you, let them see this weakness. Some of the sweetest, most popular ones on here will and, trust me, they aren't under any illusion like you seem to be about the relationship, and you had better get real about what many of them know about the ways that work to get rid of the heartbroken old man. I'm speaking as someone that has had end it with many regulars, and the result when you cut them off from guaranteed funds the response isn't always "I hope you have a wonderful life. " Every one of these girls (especially the ones I suspect you want to see) has had a ton of regulars. They've had a ton lie about "I don't want a relationship." They've had many turn into stalkers and worse. If you think they're delusional about attachments, I guarantee that you need to rethink that. They have very real experiences with all sorts of attachment and they often will be a very different person that is in your head when they want it ended.

You are smart enough to know many had daddy issues; guess who often gets to step in for the abuse they never got to give to daddy? If they see you as being connected and want to end it, while you play this game out of "I'm just not compartmentalizing this" fantasy... good luck, hope she isn't dating someone and telling him about guys giving her problems, leaves her phone unlocked, etc. If you're not up to accepting the reality of that and keep choosing to go into these things not being honest about the higher degree of attachment it's pretty clear you want, then go do the SB thing and pay for that relationship you want would be my advice. Otherwise, stop lying about needing to compartmentalize an hourly rate.

OaklandT309
09-08-21, 09:05
So some concerns I've had about getting into this side of the hobby:

One time I got a massage and got pulled over leaving the parlor I didn't get a ticket or arrested and pretty much refused to answer any questions. Nothing happened. I was in a storefront business so I didn't sweat it.

Obviously that's a way different situation than leaving a provider at a hotel. Have any of you guys got pulled over after? Can they send a warrant out later if they suspected you of anything even if they didn't write you up then like if the girl gets busted and she tries ratting you out? Or do they need to catch you in the act?

How do you handle people trying to dash or rob you? Is it smarter just to let the cash ride or to not back down from it?I've never been accosted by the po-po before or after. You're not going to get a warrant in the mail down the road. Unless they have mics and cameras in the room and you're babbling about paying her for sex they have no proof you did. If you're worried the cops are taking license plate numbers just park somewhere else and walk over. She isn't going to rat you out; it would be her admitting to prostitution.

If a chick runs, let her go. There's probably a pimp with a gun nearby. If you are literally robbed then it's your call whether to report it to the police. But then you got to explain something believable why you were there in the first place. Good luck with that.

Caution is smart, but don't over-think it. Scouring these boards for known, legit, cool providers is your best course of action. If you see an ad that catches your eye Google their phone numbers to find other ads. Use reverse google image search to check if the pics are only in escort ads or lifted from somewhere else. If you find the same pics in ads in a dozen different states she's likely fake. Lastly, copy / paste the link here and ask about her.

Good luck.

OaklandT309
09-08-21, 09:19
300 for 1/2 hr. Not cheap. But AL OT of fun. Nice hotel in novi.10/ min worth fun? With a GFE provider I'm usually not done eating their pussy in the first 1/2 hr. LOL.

OaklandT309
09-08-21, 09:45
You're looking for a relationship even though you know you shouldn't be, you know you aren't going to get the 20 y / o you want and you don't want the 60 y / o, so it sounds to me like you're giving yourself a reason to not accept that reality by saying there's some sort of process that you'll always be stuck in, even though you've lived nearly 60 years on this planet and you that's not how life works.

It's not a "compartmentalization process" to realize she's seeing you for money. That's what it is. If you can't (or don't want to) accept that, then perhaps you should be more open about what you want for what you are doing, rather than pretending it will be something you'll accept some day, when we and especially she knows otherwise.

It could be a SB fits your needs. IDK what you're talking about 'skin thickening' though. It sounds like you're just allowing yourself to live in fantasy land where you may end up with the girl. Let me share that any 20 something seeing a 60 y/o man even for pay won't respect that dishonesty or find it attractive, so you may as well transition your thinking or be more honest about what you're looking for right now. They will figure out what you're looking for pretty quickly and probably exploit it in their own ways, whether you know it or not. You're an open book here so I'm sure women will have no problem realizing they can get what they want from you, let them see this weakness. Some of the sweetest, most popular ones on here will and, trust me, they aren't in any illusion like you seem to be about the relationship, and you had better get real about what many of them know about the ways that work to get rid of the heartbroken old man. I'm speaking as someone that has had end it with many regulars, and the result when you cut them off from guaranteed funds the response isn't always "I hope you have a wonderful life. " You are smart enough to know many had daddy issues; guess who often gets to step in for the abuse they never got to give to daddy. If you're not up to accepting the reality of that and keep choosing to go into these things not being honest about the higher degree of attachment it's pretty clear you want, then go do the SB thing and pay for that relationship you want would be my advice.I agree with everything you said. Especially that a SB will manipulate him and bleed him dry if he can't grasp and continually hold onto the fact it's a paid-for fantasy. No matter what other window dressing is involved she's there for only one thing. Remove the money from the equation and she's history as fast as one can flick a light switch. So my advice would be to forget the SB idea entirely unless he's very well off and doesn't mind losing his shirt for a pretend gf.

Sorry Lothario, but that's the reality. Whichever way you go, every single day, take a step back from your emotions and ask yourself "Would she be here without the money, and am I really getting what I'm paying for?" Good luck.

Wiggles0923
09-08-21, 09:47
I seem to come and go here a lot recently and I wanted to provide an update. I have tried reaching out to Ingrid to see if she is back. She must be at the mental hospital still, or quit the lifestyle for good. I will miss that sweet 18 yo, I'd verified pussy. Oh my god it was so tight, and her spinner body. I have not been able to find a replacement but I shall keep searching.

Taz41
09-08-21, 09:56
I seem to come and go here a lot recently and I wanted to provide an update. I have tried reaching out to Ingrid to see if she is back. She must be at the mental hospital still, or quit the lifestyle for good. I will miss that sweet 18 yo, I'd verified pussy. Oh my god it was so tight, and her spinner body. I have not been able to find a replacement but I shall keep searching.Sounds amazing. Hope you'll share if you do or if she's back!

OaklandT309
09-08-21, 10:01
Search the forums for Courtney. If I recall, she has has some not so good reviews.It took a while to backtrack to a discussion with a link (jeez, why don't people add a link or screen cap? Nearly every girl in town shares the same first name with someone else and some change their name and number often too). She sounds like a psycho.

Wiggles0923
09-08-21, 10:03
Sounds amazing. Hope you'll share if you do or if she's back!Last time she wanted more customers but was about to leave for the clinic. Also I was really selfish and wanted her to myself. For $250 I was living a dream with that girl. If she responds to my text I will ask if I can pass out her digest, as I am not active now.

Love scouting leads. Maybe it can be a side gig like a personal shopper.

OaklandT309
09-08-21, 10:10
I seem to come and go here a lot recently and I wanted to provide an update. I have tried reaching out to Ingrid to see if she is back. She must be at the mental hospital still, or quit the lifestyle for good. I will miss that sweet 18 yo, I'd verified pussy. Oh my god it was so tight, and her spinner body. I have not been able to find a replacement but I shall keep searching.She must be at the mental hospital still? If mental hospital isn't another term for drug rehab that's reason enough to stay away permanently IMHO. It's likely that her young life and escort lifestyle put her there. Going back into the lifestyle is like putting a recovering addict into a halfway house that's doubles as a crack house.

WednesdayFun
09-08-21, 10:45
Last time she wanted more customers but was about to leave for the clinic. Also I was really selfish and wanted her to myself. For $250 I was living a dream with that girl. If she responds to my text I will ask if I can pass out her digest, as I am not active now.

Love scouting leads. Maybe it can be a side gig like a personal shopper.Was she the girl from SugarDaddyMeet? Out of Ann Arbor?

Wiggles0923
09-08-21, 11:19
Yep, could not find the ad. I hope she reaches back out. Even if it is just one more time, I want to smash that puss.


Was she the girl from SugarDaddyMeet? Out of Ann Arbor?

Kinger19
09-08-21, 14:00
The Seventh Heaven agency. Must be a member to really look their site over. https://www.t7h.net/home.Once you book one of the girls you have access as a "member".

LionGuy09
09-08-21, 14:03
Visit two weeks ago. Not bad, not great. A little awkward with getting right down to business, maybe she was in a hurry? Overall looks are pretty solid. Tall but that's okay with me. Everything covered. Nice location, more Walled Lake than Novi. Looking to find something on the regular in the Novi area, so the search continues. Seems even if $$$ isn't the limiting factor, steady and reliable is hard to come by these days. Stay safe.

LotharioPK
09-08-21, 15:34
I agree with everything you said. Especially that a SB will manipulate him and bleed him dry if he can't grasp and continually hold onto the fact it's a paid-for fantasy. No matter what other window dressing is involved she's there for only one thing. Remove the money from the equation and she's history as fast as one can flick a light switch. So my advice would be to forget the SB idea entirely unless he's very well off and doesn't mind losing his shirt for a pretend gf.

Sorry Lothario, but that's the reality. Whichever way you go, every single day, take a step back from your emotions and ask yourself "Would she be here without the money, and am I really getting what I'm paying for?" Good luck.I'm truely touched that you guys spent so much time thinking my situation over and taking the time to offer your opinions. I want to assure you I'm not about to run out and liquidate my IRA to split it amongst my ATFs or with a random 20 YO spinner. I have no illusions about serious relationships with any of these girls. I was merely acknowledging that with my personality and inexperience with the hobby I find myself caring more than is probably healthy. I'll get over it.

Meanwhile, I'll be in the hunt tomorrow for an early 20's spinner. Wish me luck on my c*nt hunt.

Taz41
09-08-21, 16:21
I'm truely touched that you guys spent so much time thinking my situation over and taking the time to offer your opinions. I want to assure you I'm not about to run out and liquidate my IRA to split it amongst my ATFs or with a random 20 YO spinner. I have no illusions about serious relationships with any of these girls. I was merely acknowledging that with my personality and inexperience with the hobby I find myself caring more than is probably healthy. I'll get over it.

Meanwhile, I'll be in the hunt tomorrow for an early 20's spinner. Wish me luck on my c*nt hunt.I wish you luck with that hunt and hopefully you'll report. But, IDK the message got through. I'm not myself speaking about liquidating IRA funds. Has nothing to do with IRA funds. They get all the appointments they want LOL. You're not getting it if you think they care about your money. They don't need that.

I was speaking to someone who said they were new on what I saw in what they were saying both about themselves and about what they thought a regular was. I'm not going to share the specifics I've had with regs (and I've always tried to stay with escorts that were on a higher end as regs, not to brag, but to share). But, I didn't say a word about your money.

I've largely saw 5 regulars myself during my past decade plus. Yeah, I could and did care about them. But, you eventually see the same ways they can and will abuse that, and if you aren't completely honest about it up front. They'll expose it. They have 12+ regular dicks and 3-4 exit plan dicks. If you aren't an exit plan dick, you are there to pay the bills and you're going to be dealt with. You don't seem to be able to think to that level to start, which is a problem. The ones I saw wouldn't even take extra money... that's how little they care about the extra money after a point! They wanted a stable of "guys that cared" that they didn't care about, to the very last point you can imagine that meaning once they don't want you around.

The one went in the hardest, seemed the most normal and down-to-earth. The most petite and sex-driven one of them all. Went from that to the most psychotic and I'll just keep the rest of that story to myself. Have no doubt that they are all, at all times, wondering what they'll have to do if you may even start to look like you're "too concerned" bc you're there for their regular needs while they need them and only until that time. And also. Have no doubts. That they are ready to dump all their shit on the nicest, most caring guy that comes along. And, as I said, to the final extent of what that may mean. As I said, if you want a relationship, be honest, bc you seem to be setting that up. Again, I'm not talking SWers here or some new girl bc I avoided new girls... they're also about the money and will drop a reg who started at a low-rate with the same violence just bc their rate goes up. Always found it easier to pay quality to start.

This post took no thought whatsoever. You said you were going to care and "it was a process" to not see it as a transaction. My point was simple - It's not to them... why isn't it to you? Perhaps you just don't know. Well, hope you are wise enough to listen, since you asked.

Verizon75
09-08-21, 16:31
Before I met Julianna, I've contacted a few ladies which I'll list here and I got to say, their communication needs better communication and none offered GFE. An hour later, I'll get a response from them:

Patricia - https://www.eros.com/michigan/files/7673519.htm.

Valentina Diaz - https://www.eros.com/michigan/files/2210203.htm.

Luna - https://www.eros.com/michigan/files/2141006.htm.

Now with that out of the way, I want to share my experience with Julianna. Her pictures don't do her justice; exotic beauty when I met her at the door. Checking out the storm heading our way, I wanted to set up an appointment before it came. I get an immediate text from Juli saying she's alright with the time I picked. Damage was 5 for Hr and 4 for Hhr. Went with 5 because my gut was telling me to do so. Driving over there was a pain because of traffic. I contacted her again and told her I was going to run late, but she brought an idea I could start my session in another time. It was 30 minutes ahead. This told me she was (or is) understanding with the circumstances and she's willing to make things work if possible. Once I got to my destination, I texted her to let her know I was here (without being rushed). Juli wanted me to stay where I was because of maids cleaning out her room. So, it was a good thing I learned my lesson from last time because if I didn't, I would of called myself stupid. The hotel she's in was very nice; I've been there before and may not look like much of the outside, but the inside is nicely designed.

Within the hotel room, she wore a green dress and high heels. Hot damn! She greeted me with a quick peak on the lips and hug. I placed my donation, washed up, returned to her by holding her, Juli turned her head and smiled. Juli helped me relax because man I needed it from the last few weeks. As we were touching one another, we loosened our clothes. Juli guided me to the bed and touched some more. Even though her chest was small, the rest of her birthday suit was breath taking. With her menu, she offers GFE, BBBJ / CBJ, DATY, LFK, and FCS. Juli also offers an ear if you gents just want to talk to her. I lied down on the bed and Juli gave me those sexy eyes of hunger for my 'd'. Part of me thought she should of played the head a bit more, but what I think she was trying to do was for me to enjoy the CBJ as much as I could before I start pounding her. And boy did I. If done right by the angle, she'll moan for you. We both enjoyed ourselves, but it was one of those times that I couldn't get off because she wasn't tight; Juli was a bit loose. After trying DOGGY, MISH, COWGIRL, I wanted to DATY. Thank you for the review.

GoodKarmaGuy
09-08-21, 17:34
Once you book one of the girls you have access as a "member".Can you book without being a member?

Daze94
09-08-21, 20:48
Can you book without being a member?Look at the site, there is a process for becoming a "member" before booking. The site has all the information.

Daze.

EastsideYoung
09-08-21, 22:48
Has anybody seen this one? I know the girl, she is or was a Chalmers SW. I guess I can't say her name because she goes by her real name? I had her number for the longest but it doesn't work anymore and I haven't been able to reach her on this number.

Lamarr
09-09-21, 05:41
Visit two weeks ago. Not bad, not great. A little awkward with getting right down to business, maybe she was in a hurry? Overall looks are pretty solid. Tall but that's okay with me. Everything covered. Nice location, more Walled Lake than Novi. Looking to find something on the regular in the Novi area, so the search continues. Seems even if $$$ isn't the limiting factor, steady and reliable is hard to come by these days. Stay safe.Safe and reliable, right down to business. That's perfect description of Candy.

OaklandT309
09-09-21, 09:47
Has anybody seen this one? I know the girl, she is or was a Chalmers SW. I guess I can't say her name because she goes by her real name? I had her number for the longest but it doesn't work anymore and I haven't been able to reach her on this number.I've seen recent ads for her on callescort.com.

Perhaps it has a valid number.

Yungins18
09-09-21, 10:06
Safe and reliable, right down to business. That's perfect description of Candy.Tried numerous times texting Candy in the last month. Nothing. Any secretes to contacting her?

BuyerBuyer666
09-09-21, 10:14
I haven't seen her but she looks cute. I tried calling and texting her this morning and got nothing. The east side doesn't have much talent these days. I've messaged 7 different women and not one has responded so far.


Has anybody seen this one? I know the girl, she is or was a Chalmers SW. I guess I can't say her name because she goes by her real name? I had her number for the longest but it doesn't work anymore and I haven't been able to reach her on this number.

BestDjInOhio
09-09-21, 11:54
Ok, so there's a new ad posted with her plus one of the girls from the special house in Pontiac. Now, I've seen the girl she's with in the pics, and although she no longer looks that great, she's legit. Like said, are they pooling resources? Expanding their employee baseM. Got a 2nd house going? Idk.

https://detroit.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/2-is-always-better-than-1/577807176613The girl you provided the link for is legit?

BestDjInOhio
09-09-21, 12:22
So I am writing this post because I see a lot of people asking if providers are legit. If you don't know how or don't want to reverse image search try looking at their ad for these clues that the ad is probably fake:

Bad or broken English.

Using words like bare, services. Providers don't ever say either of these.

Out of the area phone number.

Pictures look too professional.

Different types / color phones being held up in selfie pics.

Lower than normal rates.

And the best one "deposit required, if you can't leave a deposit, don't contact me".

If you decide to text them, I would START with "hey what city are you in!" Or something similar. If their reply is pretty much the same question then move on. (Usually their reply is "do you need / require my services?" Or "so we aren't wasting time, what area are you in" this is typically a red flag in reply to my question what city are you in.

I've even gone as far as to say "bye scammer" and their reply is "LOL" because they know they are caught!

ArmySexy77
09-09-21, 13:42
So I am writing this post because I see a lot of people asking if providers are legit. If you don't know how or don't want to reverse image search try looking at their ad for these clues that the ad is probably fake:

Bad or broken English.

Using words like bare, services. Providers don't ever say either of these.

Out of the area phone number.

Pictures look too professional.

Different types / color phones being held up in selfie pics.

Lower than normal rates.

And the best one "deposit required, if you can't leave a deposit, don't contact me".

If you decide to text them, I would START with "hey what city are you in!" Or something similar. If their reply is pretty much the same question then move on. (Usually their reply is "do you need / require my services?" Or "so we aren't wasting time, what area are you in" this is typically a red flag in reply to my question what city are you in.

I've even gone as far as to say "bye scammer" and their reply is "LOL" because they know they are caught!These scammers have infested Kik and Instagram. Big scam is asking for a Steam card.

Shrekr
09-09-21, 14:50
So I am writing this post because I see a lot of people asking if providers are legit. If you don't know how or don't want to reverse image search try looking at their ad for these clues that the ad is probably fake:

Bad or broken English.

Using words like bare, services. Providers don't ever say either of these.

Out of the area phone number.

Pictures look too professional.

Different types / color phones being held up in selfie pics.

Lower than normal rates.

And the best one "deposit required, if you can't leave a deposit, don't contact me".

If you decide to text them, I would START with "hey what city are you in!" Or something similar. If their reply is pretty much the same question then move on. (Usually their reply is "do you need / require my services?" Or "so we aren't wasting time, what area are you in" this is typically a red flag in reply to my question what city are you in.

I've even gone as far as to say "bye scammer" and their reply is "LOL" because they know they are caught!Pretty good compilation BestDjInOhio.

One more key addition is "Location". If you do you not see a city name or street name mentioned, then its most likely fake / scam. Avoid ads which say local, near you, close by, state name or phone number, unless the sp is already reviewed by a senior.

BestDjInOhio
09-09-21, 15:47
FWIW, she replied this evening to a message I sent this morning, apologizing for the delay because her phone had been messed up. I replied it was NP and asked if she did outcall as Romulus is an hr drive. She just replied Yes, and answered a couple questions about her time of day availability and a couple other things. It was a complete answer, not just yes and / or no. IOWs, lucid. She also asked to pre-arrange a meet tomorrow. And she says her hair is mixed red & blond now.

So, IDK. You guys' experience makes me cautious, but her response keeps me hopeful. If it happens I'll report.You would think that these girls would get better phones because that's their lifeline to getting clients it never ceases to amaze me how many issues these guys have with their phones the one most important piece of their business and they get crappy and cheap with it LOL smh.

GoodKarmaGuy
09-09-21, 18:56
Hey guys,

Anyone had the pleasure yet?

https://www.eros.com/michigan/files/9464892.htm?cat=197Saw Blair yesterday. It wasn't an enjoyable time for me. I know she was great with some others. So good example for YMMV.

Pros:

Agency was very responsive.

She is Pretty and clean.

Cons:

Mandatory Id verification process.

Not budget friendly (for me).

She was keeping a distance and lots of rules.

Fake tits.

Wasn't worth for the damage $$$ for hhr.

Finally ended up in just unenthusiastic CBJ. I'm not repeating but YMMV.

Sid63
09-09-21, 19:06
Yeah, she made things up to me though. She took her time (boy did she) but she's great as ever.Good to hear. She's pulling up some IOU's.

EastsideYoung
09-09-21, 19:15
I haven't seen her but she looks cute. I tried calling and texting her this morning and got nothing. The east side doesn't have much talent these days. I've messaged 7 different women and not one has responded so far.

Yeah man she still looks like those pictures maybe just a little older. Chest not deflated cause she's got a nice set of bolt ons and not emaciated skinny. Hygiene was always on point. She was my go to for a while till she changed her number. By far my atf for a bbj. I just don't know if the ad is legit. I might be wrong but the picture of the titties im pretty sure are not hers.

Member #6060
09-09-21, 19:24
I'm looking to move past standard things like massage and escort. I want to know where to look for couples. Sex clubs. Fetish clubs. Girl / Boy combo. Providers who have male companions.

Fetlife is so hard to navigate. Is there anywhere anyone can point me?

OaklandT309
09-09-21, 21:15
You would think that these girls would get better phones because that's their lifeline to getting clients it never ceases to amaze me how many issues these guys have with their phones the one most important piece of their business and they get crappy and cheap with it LOL smh.Cheap burners?

I didn't have the chance to see her the other day, but in the last couple days she's relocated to Canton. It's a little closer to me at least. Also, she'd posted some new pics and I messaged her that every new pic she posts is hotter than the last. She sent me a couple others and we passed a couple messages. I'm planning to arrange to be in the Canton area tomorrow. Hopefully she'll be awake and answering.

OaklandT309
09-09-21, 21:27
Pretty good compilation BestDjInOhio.

One more key addition is "Location". If you do you not see a city name or street name mentioned, then its most likely fake / scam. Avoid ads which say local, near you, close by, state name or phone number, unless the sp is already reviewed by a senior.My favorite scammer red flag:

"Full of service Fun! Shower Sex With many positions Doggy Style Fuck & full.

Night Enjoy Oralanal69 position passionate Kissing Penis Massage penis.

Suck Long Time travel specially Fuck your own style Any Place Available".

LOL.

WednesdayFun
09-09-21, 22:00
Yep, could not find the ad. I hope she reaches back out. Even if it is just one more time, I want to smash that puss.I never pulled the trigger on her. Maybe because it was all car dates and I don't feel safe (was really jittery last year after evening robbed by Amber). Should have gone for it, hope she comes back.

LotharioPK
09-09-21, 23:15
My favorite scammer red flag:

"Full of service Fun! Shower Sex With many positions Doggy Style Fuck & full.

Night Enjoy Oralanal69 position passionate Kissing Penis Massage penis.

Suck Long Time travel specially Fuck your own style Any Place Available".

LOL.Reminds me of the scene in Full Metal Jacket in Saigon: "Hey GI! Me love you looong time! Suckee! Suckee!

MrHungWell
09-10-21, 05:33
I'm looking to move past standard things like massage and escort. I want to know where to look for couples. Sex clubs. Fetish clubs. Girl / Boy combo. Providers who have male companions.

Fetlife is so hard to navigate. Is there anywhere anyone can point me?What you're looking for is a whole lifestyle that takes time and patience to get involved in. You won't find it just by visiting the right place, it's an earned lifestyle. I'm a Bull and have been fucking hot wives while hubby watches for almost 30 years now, but it took time to earn that privilege. You must have an extremely flexible schedule, be personable, attractive, and of course have a big cock And that's just the basic requirements.

DaveL7
09-10-21, 06:00
I've been looking at this ad for a while.

https://www.eros.com/michigan/files/2286845.htm?cat=1

Has anyone has any experience with her? She looks incredible.

Wiggles0923
09-10-21, 10:07
What you're looking for is a whole lifestyle that takes time and patience to get involved in. You won't find it just by visiting the right place, it's an earned lifestyle. I'm a Bull and have been fucking hot wives while hubby watches for almost 30 years now, but it took time to earn that privilege. You must have an extremely flexible schedule, be personable, attractive, and of course have a big cock And that's just the basic requirements.Took me years, depending on what you are looking for. You have to work hard, not be creepy, and understand it a very different set of social and consent rules. The pay off is, I did not need this page for years.

IWonderWhy
09-10-21, 11:29
Decided to toftt and give her a try. Do not waste you time or money. I took the plunge and what a nasty experience. And not the good nasty! Hotel was trash, room was trash, smelled like a crack den at the hotel room?! She is covered in bruises and cuts and I think is missing a few teeth. The only hole that was worth a damn was the one missing teeth. Pretty good CBJ but both of the other doors were like throwing a hotdog down a hallway. This is from a guy who is a bit bigger than the league average. I have never bagged on a provider before but just couldn't let this one slide. Stay away and take your cash somewhere else.

XMailMan
09-10-21, 12:03
What you're looking for is a whole lifestyle that takes time and patience to get involved in. You won't find it just by visiting the right place, it's an earned lifestyle. I'm a Bull and have been fucking hot wives while hubby watches for almost 30 years now, but it took time to earn that privilege. You must have an extremely flexible schedule, be personable, attractive, and of course have a big cock And that's just the basic requirements.How does someone earn that lifestyle? How do you meet people of the similar interest? I occasionally scroll through fetlife but never had luck. Is there a specific place or site with activity?

LotharioPK
09-10-21, 12:36
Decided to toftt and give her a try. Do not waste you time or money. I took the plunge and what a nasty experience. And not the good nasty! Hotel was trash, room was trash, smelled like a crack den at the hotel room?! She is covered in bruises and cuts and I think is missing a few teeth. The only hole that was worth a damn was the one missing teeth. Pretty good CBJ but both of the other doors were like throwing a hotdog down a hallway. This is from a guy who is a bit bigger than the league average. I have never bagged on a provider before but just couldn't let this one slide. Stay away and take your cash somewhere else.Can you post a link? Preferrably from Sumosearch (they are actyive longer).

Member #6060
09-10-21, 13:03
What you're looking for is a whole lifestyle that takes time and patience to get involved in. You won't find it just by visiting the right place, it's an earned lifestyle. I'm a Bull and have been fucking hot wives while hubby watches for almost 30 years now, but it took time to earn that privilege. You must have an extremely flexible schedule, be personable, attractive, and of course have a big cock And that's just the basic requirements.I'm willing to put in the time. And I'm pretty charming and that has helped me make up for my average looks. But I just don't know where "to start". I tried Fetlife but it's hard to navigate and it's dead mostly. I can't find active boards anywhere for specific kinks. It's a world I want to be a part of, but I can't seem to find the guide book to help me get rolling.

IWonderWhy
09-10-21, 13:59
Can you post a link? Preferrably from Sumosearch (they are actyive longer).I got her name wrong. It is Lanyna not Layana.

Also forgot to mention that the sheets were so soiled that I got a rash on my ass.

Here is her link:

https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/michigan/annarbor/66899799

Gwendy32
09-10-21, 15:32
How does someone earn that lifestyle? How do you meet people of the similar interest? I occasionally scroll through fetlife but never had luck. Is there a specific place or site with activity?Start by attending a public munch. A social kink get-together. Nothing kinky is likely to happen here, this is generally non-bedroom social time for the local community - "Hey, how's the kids?" kind of stuff. Someone may have a presentation, but it will likely be more or less safe for public (e. G. A rope bondage demo, with the ropes over clothes). Introduce yourself and feel free to chat a bit, but otherwise just lurk and learn. There may be a play party afterwards at someone's house. If you are not explicitly invited by someone, then you aren't invited.

Repeat a couple of times and you may be accepted into the community.

Consent is rules 1, 2, and 3 in the kink community. If you are not part of that community then you don't know the rules of consent in this context and with this group. No, really, no matter how smart of woke you are, you only learn these rules well enough to play by hanging around your specific group.

If you go into your first munch just looking to get laid, they'll pick up on that in about 30 seconds. You won't be the first one to try, and you certainly won't be the last. There are built-in social filters to keep people like that at arm's length. Your first munch is a two-way interview for getting intimate with others, and don't expect any results until everyone is comfortable with you, and no one is going to be comfortable with you until you learn their rules of consent.

If you want easy sex, just pay for it. If you are looking to change your lifestyle and join a sex-based community, it takes effort.

Gwendy32
09-10-21, 15:39
I'm looking to move past standard things like massage and escort. I want to know where to look for couples. Sex clubs. Fetish clubs. Girl / Boy combo. Providers who have male companions.

Fetlife is so hard to navigate. Is there anywhere anyone can point me?https://clubtabu.info/

It's 90+% male (or male'ish), but it's a public venue that may get your foot in the door by establishing contacts and relationships with others already plugged into the community.

OaklandT309
09-10-21, 23:03
Decided to toftt and give her a try. Do not waste you time or money. I took the plunge and what a nasty experience. And not the good nasty! Hotel was trash, room was trash, smelled like a crack den at the hotel room?! She is covered in bruises and cuts and I think is missing a few teeth. The only hole that was worth a damn was the one missing teeth. Pretty good CBJ but both of the other doors were like throwing a hotdog down a hallway. This is from a guy who is a bit bigger than the league average. I have never bagged on a provider before but just couldn't let this one slide. Stay away and take your cash somewhere else.Wow. Thanks for warning. I've otherwise seen nothing but raves about her on this forum, except that she doesn't offer GFE. All I can guess is people have different standards.

OaklandT309
09-10-21, 23:07
Has anybody seen this one? I know the girl, she is or was a Chalmers SW. I guess I can't say her name because she goes by her real name? I had her number for the longest but it doesn't work anymore and I haven't been able to reach her on this number.https://callescort.org/248-429-7511

Member #6060
09-11-21, 00:35
Start by attending a public munch. A social kink get-together. Nothing kinky is likely to happen here, this is generally non-bedroom social time for the local community - "Hey, how's the kids?" kind of stuff. Someone may have a presentation, but it will likely be more or less safe for public (e. G. A rope bondage demo, with the ropes over clothes). Introduce yourself and feel free to chat a bit, but otherwise just lurk and learn. There may be a play party afterwards at someone's house. If you are not explicitly invited by someone, then you aren't invited.

Repeat a couple of times and you may be accepted into the community.

Consent is rules 1, 2, and 3 in the kink community. If you are not part of that community then you don't know the rules of consent in this context and with this group. No, really, no matter how smart of woke you are, you only learn these rules well enough to play by hanging around your specific group.

If you go into your first munch just looking to get laid, they'll pick up on that in about 30 seconds. You won't be the first one to try, and you certainly won't be the last. There are built-in social filters to keep people like that at arm's length. Your first munch is a two-way interview for getting intimate with others, and don't expect any results until everyone is comfortable with you, and no one is going to be comfortable with you until you learn their rules of consent.

If you want easy sex, just pay for it. If you are looking to change your lifestyle and join a sex-based community, it takes effort.I want easy sex. I just want to know where to find more than an escort. I want to find likeminded people. But who don't apparently have a second job or other life in the kink community. I just want to try some new things.

BBInTheD
09-11-21, 08:40
Visit two weeks ago. Not bad, not great. A little awkward with getting right down to business, maybe she was in a hurry? Overall looks are pretty solid. Tall but that's okay with me. Everything covered. Nice location, more Walled Lake than Novi. Looking to find something on the regular in the Novi area, so the search continues. Seems even if $$$ isn't the limiting factor, steady and reliable is hard to come by these days. Stay safe.


Tried numerous times texting Candy in the last month. Nothing. Any secretes to contacting her?I don't get it. I texted her a few times throughout the day yesterday. Used 2 different numbers for her. One of my text was within 10 min of her posting.

Hands So Low
09-11-21, 09:43
https://40up.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/michigan/detroit/66875443#.

Hey guys, any reviews on this one?

OaklandT309
09-11-21, 10:05
I don't get it. I texted her a few times throughout the day yesterday. Used 2 different numbers for her. One of my text was within 10 min of her posting.No offense to you, but on one hand I understand the annoyance of contacting a provider and not getting a response. But on the other hand I don't get that guys expect them to behave like Doordash and jump on every message. I mean, they do have lives too. They got to sleep, eat, bathe, do laundry. Some have real part time jobs. A lot have kids to deal with. Sometimes they are inundated and already have a date scheduled. Sometimes they just aren't in the mood or mainframe to take a visitor. Sometimes it's the way they are approached in the initial text. If they get a creep-vibe they ignore it. I recently talked with one who said she had over 300 unanswered texts. Why she saves them is beyond me.

OaklandT309
09-11-21, 10:09
I want easy sex. I just want to know where to find more than an escort. I want to find likeminded people. But who don't apparently have a second job or other life in the kink community. I just want to try some new things.If an easy quick way is what you're looking for the kink community lifestyle is not going to happen. Maybe you should look for a provider that has friends to join in so you can experience those new things. Good luck.

SkinDogToo
09-11-21, 13:01
Decided to toftt and give her a try. Do not waste you time or money. I took the plunge and what a nasty experience. And not the good nasty! Hotel was trash, room was trash, smelled like a crack den at the hotel room?! She is covered in bruises and cuts and I think is missing a few teeth. The only hole that was worth a damn was the one missing teeth. Pretty good CBJ but both of the other doors were like throwing a hotdog down a hallway. This is from a guy who is a bit bigger than the league average. I have never bagged on a provider before but just couldn't let this one slide. Stay away and take your cash somewhere else.I went out to see her last week. I got to the hotel and there were guys out in the parking lot, in cars, walking around smoking and probably doing drugs. I drove around twice and texted her that I was going to take off because I didn't have a good feeling. As I was pulling out of the parking lot I see her running out in her pajamas into the parking lot. She kept texting and calling me begging me to come back. I told her I would be willing to do a car date as I was in the strip mall parking lot next door. Then I see her running over, but she didn't know what car I was in. She wandered around for about 10 minutes as I decided to take off as it was just not right. Thank you for taking one for the team, now I know, always follow your gut feeling!!

Johnson45
09-11-21, 13:18
Decided to toftt and give her a try. Do not waste you time or money. I took the plunge and what a nasty experience. And not the good nasty! Hotel was trash, room was trash, smelled like a crack den at the hotel room?! She is covered in bruises and cuts and I think is missing a few teeth. The only hole that was worth a damn was the one missing teeth. Pretty good CBJ but both of the other doors were like throwing a hotdog down a hallway. This is from a guy who is a bit bigger than the league average. I have never bagged on a provider before but just couldn't let this one slide. Stay away and take your cash somewhere else.She quoted me 400/ hr last weekend. Please tell me you didn't pay this or the half hour equivalent?

JoeyRamone
09-11-21, 13:19
I saw Summer again yesterday (5th time) and it was one of the best times I've ever had in this hobby.

She has a couple friends she's working with her and I went for a duo but trio was available. I had Summer and Nadia and it was fucking awesome.

Not cheap but well worth it IMO and I will 100% repeat.

Summer has a nice Bush and is a HUGE plus to me. So hard to get a hairy pussy these days. She also has recent implants which look really good.

Nadia is arabic maybe. Young (21), dark hair, thin, trimmed Bush. Looks really good.

Private home but there are other people in the house. I've seen them before and they're cool and it doesn't bother me.

CBJ, CFS, FIV, FIA. Didn't ask about greek.

Only available Wed, Thurs and Fri which makes it more difficult.

The ad with all 3 of them was on STG but I can't find it now.

$$. 8 for hh.

Link to Summer's Sumosearch: https://sumosear.ch/images/phone/586-460-8849.

OaklandT309
09-11-21, 14:14
I went out to see her last week. I got to the hotel and there were guys out in the parking lot, in cars, walking around smoking and probably doing drugs. I drove around twice and texted her that I was going to take off because I didn't have a good feeling. As I was pulling out of the parking lot I see her running out in her pajamas into the parking lot. She kept texting and calling me begging me to come back. I told her I would be willing to do a car date as I was in the strip mall parking lot next door. Then I see her running over, but she didn't know what car I was in. She wandered around for about 10 minutes as I decided to take off as it was just not right. Thank you for taking one for the team, now I know, always follow your gut feeling!!Again, WOW! AS in OMG, dodged a bullet.

Sid63
09-11-21, 14:30
She quoted me 400/ hr last weekend. Please tell me you didn't pay this or the half hour equivalent?I paid 120 for a ss. My bad. It was not good. See previous review. I won't repeat.

SkinDogToo
09-11-21, 14:42
I paid 120 for a ss. My bad. It was not good. See previous review. I won't repeat.She quoted me 400/250/150. She eventually said 1 for ss. See what happened in previous post. As she was barraging me with calls / texts she went down to. 5. LOL.

BBInTheD
09-11-21, 15:32
No offense to you, but on one hand I understand the annoyance of contacting a provider and not getting a response. But on the other hand I don't get that guys expect them to behave like Doordash and jump on every message. I mean, they do have lives too. They got to sleep, eat, bathe, do laundry. Some have real part time jobs. A lot have kids to deal with. Sometimes they are inundated and already have a date scheduled. Sometimes they just aren't in the mood or mainframe to take a visitor. Sometimes it's the way they are approached in the initial text. If they get a creep-vibe they ignore it. I recently talked with one who said she had over 300 unanswered texts. Why she saves them is beyond me.Good answer, but doesn't really apply here. I texted her 10 minutes after she posted on 2 sites, I highly doubt she made that post between the spin cycle and going in the dryer.

I saw her post again today with yet a different phone number. Get a immediate response asking if a car date works. Smh.

WednesdayFun
09-11-21, 16:15
I want easy sex. I just want to know where to find more than an escort. I want to find likeminded people. But who don't apparently have a second job or other life in the kink community. I just want to try some new things.I mean technically no, but they're basically like a high school clique with a bunch of dumb rules. Best to avoid them if you're looking for something easy (and fun).

Gwendy32
09-11-21, 18:24
I want easy sex. I just want to know where to find more than an escort. I want to find likeminded people. But who don't apparently have a second job or other life in the kink community. I just want to try some new things.Sorry bud, this is the way of things. Single men wanting sex are as common as pennies and worth about as much to the tiny population of women that you are looking for. The field of "people who want more sex but aren't getting it" is like 99% single men. Some of those single men decide to have casual sex with each other, it's just easier to find another single man in the pool. The rest of men want to have sex with that last 1%, and that means that the 1% get to be choosy. The best place to find these 1% is in the kink community. Like anyone who is into a hobby, people tend to form groups, sex is no different.

The question to ask yourself is, what do I bring to the group. Or even a single random horny woman. Beyond "I want easy sex"? A good personality is a good start. A massive dick always helps. But personality and dick size aren't enough, you got to bring something else to the table. In a bar it may be a cute magic trick or something. In the kink community it's demonstrating consent.

Or, to put it another, less rambling way, women that want easy sex are already getting easy sex. You got to work for it if you want it, you just aren't that special, they don't need you.

So, if you want to find random people who want to have sex with you, here are your options:

1. This website.

2. Ask random women if they'd like to have sex with you. This is called "dating", and it's far from easy sex. And about as expensive as 1.

3. Join a kink group and put up with their bullshit entrance exams and rules and strict codes of conduct. It's not "easy sex", but this is by far and wide the largest concentration of the types of people who may want to have easy casual sex with you. And, this is the only self-described sex group that has a public-facing way for strangers to join.

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5. Find a group of women who are interested in sex with you, don't care who you are, don't want you to pay them, don't care what you do to them, and don't have a penis. You don't find these women, they find you, likely completely at random, and you get to have the wildest fling of your life before they move on to the next one leaving you with a bar story and the clap. They are the stuff of fairytales, and no amount of advice from any of us is going to help you.

BBInTheD
09-11-21, 19:53
Tried numerous times texting Candy in the last month. Nothing. Any secretes to contacting her?Yea, I've spend the past 2 days trying to reach. Today was different. Her first response was looking for a car date. No Thanks. Then followed up with "How about 45 min for $250" No Thanks.

Sadly, this one appears to be not worth the effort.

Sid63
09-11-21, 22:05
Good answer, but doesn't really apply here. I texted her 10 minutes after she posted on 2 sites, I highly doubt she made that post between the spin cycle and going in the dryer.

I saw her post again today with yet a different phone number. Get a immediate response asking if a car date works. Smh.These people have problems most of us can't even dream about. The stuff they go through is insane. But they have caused most of these issues and now they want to get out of the trouble they caused themselves and it's a vicious cycle. Most are literally homeless staying at the hotels night to night.

OaklandT309
09-11-21, 22:33
Good answer, but doesn't really apply here. I texted her 10 minutes after she posted on 2 sites, I highly doubt she made that post between the spin cycle and going in the dryer.

I saw her post again today with yet a different phone number. Get a immediate response asking if a car date works. Smh.Just because they are doing the chore of renewing their postings on all the different sites doesn't necessarily mean "I'm free and in the mood right now. " They might have been doing that in-between feeding the kids and cleaning up another new mess. Just saying. It's unpredictable. I'd say just don't take it personally. Some like persistence. Some do nothing but watch TV, get stoned, and wait for the next client.

Some like a compliment first off rather than a come-on for sex. The girl I mentioned, for example. She'd posted a new pic I'd never seen before. I had sent her a message saying 'each new pic you post is hotter than the last. " That's all, literally nothing else. She got back to me immediately and we started chatting. Later she told me she'd been having a really shitty day, and when she saw my message it made her feel good. Despite the drugs and the lifestyle they're people with feelings and good and bad days too. And I venture their bad days are a lot worse than yours or mine.

OaklandT309
09-11-21, 22:35
These people have problems most of us can't even dream about. The stuff they go through is insane. But they have caused most of these issues and now they want to get out of the trouble they caused themselves and it's a vicious cycle. Most are literally homeless staying at the hotels night to night.You got that right. Some tell stories that blow my mind. Really scary shit sometimes.

OaklandT309
09-11-21, 22:37
Yea, I've spend the past 2 days trying to reach. Today was different. Her first response was looking for a car date. No Thanks. Then followed up with "How about 45 min for $250" No Thanks.

Sadly, this one appears to be not worth the effort.45 mins for 250? GPS or really desperate for cash.

OaklandT309
09-11-21, 22:40
She quoted me 400/250/150. She eventually said 1 for ss. See what happened in previous post. As she was barraging me with calls / texts she went down to. 5. LOL.Typo, or $5. 00 for a ss? If the latter, that's both hilarious and sad.

OaklandT309
09-11-21, 22:43
I saw Summer again yesterday (5th time) and it was one of the best times I've ever had in this hobby.

She has a couple friends she's working with her and I went for a duo but trio was available. I had Summer and Nadia and it was fucking awesome.

Not cheap but well worth it IMO and I will 100% repeat.

Summer has a nice Bush and is a HUGE plus to me. So hard to get a hairy pussy these days. She also has recent implants which look really good.

Nadia is arabic maybe. Young (21), dark hair, thin, trimmed Bush. Looks really good.

Private home but there are other people in the house. I've seen them before and they're cool and it doesn't bother me.

CBJ, CFS, FIV, FIA. Didn't ask about greek.

Only available Wed, Thurs and Fri which makes it more difficult.

The ad with all 3 of them was on STG but I can't find it now.

$$. 8 for hh.

Link to Summer's Sumosearch: https://sumosear.ch/images/phone/586-460-8849.LMK if you can find a link for the arabic girl, Nadia. I got a thing hot arabic chicks, among many other things I got a thing for, LOL.

Wonders Wonder
09-11-21, 23:21
She quoted me 400/250/150. She eventually said 1 for ss. See what happened in previous post. As she was barraging me with calls / texts she went down to. 5. LOL.Layna has a fugitive task force after her ass fellas, so you better watch your ass and not get caught up in that. She is major into heroin, hence the bruising you guys always talk about. She's a no good used up, turned out trick, with criminals around her. Stay away if you can.

Lamarr
09-11-21, 23:23
Yea, I've spend the past 2 days trying to reach. Today was different. Her first response was looking for a car date. No Thanks. Then followed up with "How about 45 min for $250" No Thanks.

Sadly, this one appears to be not worth the effort.Wow, I saw her back in June. Couldn't have been easier to hook up with her. Think it was a Saturday nooner.... maybe $160 for a HH...

LotharioPK
09-12-21, 00:34
Wow, I saw her back in June. Couldn't have been easier to hook up with her. Think it was a Saturday nooner.... maybe $160 for a HH...I saw Layna in June / July also and had a great time. She was beautuful and I didn't notice any paticular bruising. You can start sniggering now if you want, because as I wrote earlier, I DID fork out 4 for an hour and except that I can't afford to do that often, I thought she was worth it. She seemed fully alert, not stoned and / or haggard. I guess the candy really takes it out of you. More on that in my forthcoming review of Amber.

SmolPepe
09-12-21, 05:45
I saw Layna in June / July also and had a great time. She was beautuful and I didn't notice any paticular bruising. You can start sniggering now if you want, because as I wrote earlier, I DID fork out 4 for an hour and except that I can't afford to do that often, I thought she was worth it. She seemed fully alert, not stoned and / or haggard. I guess the candy really takes it out of you. More on that in my forthcoming review of Amber.Agreed, I was a Layna regular willing to pay the premium for the body and OK attitude. She is total trash now and I will not be seeing again. I think she can handle her shit and the manipulative, jealous, loser BF is the problem. I'd maybe see again for an outcall.

OaklandT309
09-12-21, 10:57
Layna has a fugitive task force after her ass fellas, so you better watch your ass and not get caught up in that. She is major into heroin, hence the bruising you guys always talk about. She's a no good used up, turned out trick, with criminals around her. Stay away if you can.If she's a fugitive then she's got mug shots. Facial recognition software should be able to fund her ads easily, so it doesn't seem like the task force is working too hard, LOL. But seriously, your warnings are well heeded and appreciated. Considering how until a few weeks ago all her reviews were raves, and now people describe bruises and missing teeth and a shithole hideout it shows just how fast things can go south for these girls. No one ever mentioned missing teeth until the other day. Sounds like she fell prey to a bad thug pimp who beats the shit out of her and knocked out some test recently. Very sad.

OaklandT309
09-12-21, 11:08
For anyone who might think it's safe enough to use your real phone number when texting, do a reverse number search here:

https://www.truepeoplesearch.com/#.

I was shocked at the amount of info when I reached my own cell number. Just imagine if a girl like the sliding-fast Layna's thug pimp got hold of that?

Use a burner or a texting app. I use TextNow. If anyone has an even better alternative please share.

OaklandT309
09-12-21, 12:04
Has anyone here paid for the Erotic Money membership to be able to read reviews, and if so did you find them accurate and worthwhile? I know YMMV with any provider but sometimes it's worth a small investment to increase your odds of a good experience and not feel like you wasted money. There's a shit ton of ads there I haven't seen anyone talk about here. And I've seen a number of providers say they've gotten good reviews on them. Anyone can say that, but is it true, ya know?

Sid63
09-12-21, 17:56
Has anyone here paid for the Erotic Money membership to be able to read reviews, and if so did you find them accurate and worthwhile? I know YMMV with any provider but sometimes it's worth a small investment to increase your odds of a good experience and not feel like you wasted money. There's a shit ton of ads there I haven't seen anyone talk about here. And I've seen a number of providers say they've gotten good reviews on them. Anyone can say that, but is it true, ya know?I was able to get to the reviews a few years ago prior to them making you pay. I got literally NO useful information from that. It's about as good as EB, which is free.

Re: phone. While I agree text app is best for privacy, it can be trouble for 2 reasons-1) it is a really bad service. If you think comms are bad with providers who fall asleep, can't find their phone charger, text app on their end, try it on both ends. Regarding that phone search-just do not use your phone number for ANY social media. Use an email acct. And beside, most these people can't get credit cards, so I doubt they'd go through the trouble to pay for what is likely bogus info on your phone #.

2). I dropped it because I found it difficult to explain why I had a text app on my phone. Well I never had to explain I just ran that conversation through my head and I didn't like it.

My. 02.

WednesdayFun
09-12-21, 18:07
For anyone who might think it's safe enough to use your real phone number when texting, do a reverse number search here:

https://www.truepeoplesearch.com/#.

I was shocked at the amount of info when I reached my own cell number. Just imagine if a girl like the sliding-fast Layna's thug pimp got hold of that?

Use a burner or a texting app. I use TextNow. If anyone has an even better alternative please share.It lists me as being dead.

OaklandT309
09-12-21, 19:45
I was able to get to the reviews a few years ago prior to them making you pay. I got literally NO useful information from that. It's about as good as EB, which is free.

Re: phone. While I agree text app is best for privacy, it can be trouble for 2 reasons-1) it is a really bad service. If you think comms are bad with providers who fall asleep, can't find their phone charger, text app on their end, try it on both ends. Regarding that phone search-just do not use your phone number for ANY social media. Use an email acct. And beside, most these people can't get credit cards, so I doubt they'd go through the trouble to pay for what is likely bogus info on your phone #.

It was not bogus info on my number. My name, past 3 addresses, at least 3 relative and my wife’s name listed as associated, and 3 of her addresses, my landline and two old landlines. With all that a thug could use it to blackmail me. The one funny thing is it showed only one email address and that was the very first website based email address I created over 25 years ago and haven’t looked at in at 10 yrs. I’d forgotten about it.

2). I dropped it because I found it difficult to explain why I had a text app on my phone. Well I never had to explain I just ran that conversation through my head and I didn't like it.

My. 02.Tell her you have Text Now for businesses and websites etc that require you provide a cell phone # for verification codes etc, and you don't want all the marketing BS texts you'll get afterwards. You can turn off the Text Now notifications without worrying about missing anything important. All the real stuff is coming to your regular number.

Sid63
09-12-21, 20:20
It lists me as being dead.Nice work, Punisher!

Member #6060
09-12-21, 22:41
Money. I bring money. That used to be good enough. Is this relationship forming stuff new? I want unique experiences and I want to pay for it. I don't want a family of like minded.


Sorry bud, this is the way of things. Single men wanting sex are as common as pennies and worth about as much to the tiny population of women that you are looking for. The field of "people who want more sex but aren't getting it" is like 99% single men. Some of those single men decide to have casual sex with each other, it's just easier to find another single man in the pool. The rest of men want to have sex with that last 1%, and that means that the 1% get to be choosy. The best place to find these 1% is in the kink community. Like anyone who is into a hobby, people tend to form groups, sex is no different.

The question to ask yourself is, what do I bring to the group. Or even a single random horny woman. Beyond "I want easy sex"? A good personality is a good start. A massive dick always helps. But personality and dick size aren't enough, you got to bring something else to the table. In a bar it may be a cute magic trick or something. In the kink community it's demonstrating consent.

Or, to put it another, less rambling way, women that want easy sex are already getting easy sex. You got to work for it if you want it, you just aren't that special, they don't need you.

So, if you want to find random people who want to have sex with you, here are your options:

1. This website.

2. Ask random women if they'd like to have sex with you. This is called "dating", and it's far from easy sex. And about as expensive as 1.

3. Join a kink group and put up with their bullshit entrance exams and rules and strict codes of conduct. It's not "easy sex", but this is by far and wide the largest concentration of the types of people who may want to have easy casual sex with you. And, this is the only self-described sex group that has a public-facing way for strangers to join.

5. Find a group of women who are interested in sex with you, don't care who you are, don't want you to pay them, don't care what you do to them, and don't have a penis. You don't find these women, they find you, likely completely at random, and you get to have the wildest fling of your life before they move on to the next one leaving you with a bar story and the clap. They are the stuff of fairytales, and no amount of advice from any of us is going to help you.

Member #6060
09-12-21, 22:55
I mean technically no, but they're basically like a high school clique with a bunch of dumb rules. Best to avoid them if you're looking for something easy (and fun).Seems like that's the case unfortunately. What happened to good ol fashioned paying for an experience. What happened to good old fashioned no strings clubs and forums for this stuff. Someone who wants to fuck their boyfriend in front of me for a fee. This seems like it's not that hard.

ED Pills
09-13-21, 00:55
Has anyone here paid for the Erotic Money membership to be able to read reviews, and if so did you find them accurate and worthwhile? I know YMMV with any provider but sometimes it's worth a small investment to increase your odds of a good experience and not feel like you wasted money. There's a shit ton of ads there I haven't seen anyone talk about here. And I've seen a number of providers say they've gotten good reviews on them. Anyone can say that, but is it true, ya know?Waste of money. The reviews are mostly fake.

OaklandT309
09-13-21, 07:21
Waste of money. The reviews are mostly fake.I figured. But I wanted to ask. Truly appreciate the feedback and warning. Stay safe having fun out there!

OaklandT309
09-13-21, 07:44
Money. I bring money. That used to be good enough. Is this relationship forming stuff new? I want unique experiences and I want to pay for it. I don't want a family of like minded.By saying Money, I assume you mean a lot of money. Not 200-300 for a single experience but maybe 1000 or more. I'll give you a semi-direct lead. Go to Seeking Arrangement. Right now, or at least as recently as last week, I saw a fairly current ad on there featuring a M / F couple. I believe they are in Windsor. I assume they are able to cross the border again now, you know, covid blockade and all. I actually hit them up once 2-3 years ago and had a few brief messaging convos. It never meshed for whatever reason I can't specifically recall now, but probably scheduling on my end. At that time I think they asked 500 so it's probably more now.

Otherwise, If I were in your shoes and had lots of money to burn I'd also try hitting up the high end providers and Doms. Explain your situation / needs and flash the cash, even if it's paying them a finder's fee. They may be more connected to the types of people you're looking for.

You could put ads up on Doublelist. There's a section for couples seeking men.

Good luck.

OaklandT309
09-13-21, 07:47
It lists me as being dead.LOLOLOL, you win the internet today. But I hope it doesn't cause you trouble getting your IRS refund, LOL.

TopOut1317
09-13-21, 09:46
I swear I have seen a report on her. Anyone have intel: https://tryst.link/escort/mariah7.

Jd2011
09-13-21, 10:58
I believe this was stated before, but is worth mentioning again. One nice thing about the TextNow app. When lets say you are done mongering for the day, you can delete the app. It will say that it deletes all data associated with it or something to that effect, but it does not delete the data. When you are ready to monger again, download the app from the cloud and all of your data will still be there.


Tell her you have Text Now for businesses and websites etc that require you provide a cell phone # for verification codes etc, and you don't want all the marketing BS texts you'll get afterwards. You can turn off the Text Now notifications without worrying about missing anything important. All the real stuff is coming to your regular number.

LotharioPK
09-13-21, 12:00
I saw Amber (my first young spinner) in a value-priced hotel in Southfield (hint: it has crimson shingles) on a recent weekday afternoon. It took her over an hour to respond to my first message, but after that comms were fairly good. I dropped the donation and we got comfortable.

She was generally pleasant to be with but she was so stoned / exhausted she couldn't set a very enthusiastic vibe for the session. She has a kickin' bod and her small size and micro-titties were a novel and kind of exciting change-of-pace. She is a spinner with a tiny 5'0" 90# super tight body. Smallest and tightest I've ever had. Almost flat chest with really perky nipples. Nice voice and I think she has a cute face, but she was so stoned / exhausted it was difficult to tell. Her eyes were never more than half open. Her teeth were a little sketchy, but difficult to see because she doesn't open her mouth too much to smile or speak.

I convinced her to DFK and she agreed but never really got past a brief LFK. She asked if I was "party friendly" and being naive about such things I assumed she meant pot so I told her I would not indulge but didn't mind if she did. The next thing I know, she is blazing up using a tiny pipe with tiny white pellets. I was so surprised I didn't know what to do so I just rolled with it. She smoked at least 3-4 times during our hour. The environment was also not conducive to a good time because she kept checking her phone during the appt and the TV was blaring some dumb show about rehabbing vacation properties. We started with an only-OK CBJ during which I could feel her teeth a bit and I'd swear she was experiencing "micro sleep" for a few seconds every now-and-again. The highlight of the date for me was a 15 min DATY on the prettiest, tightest little pussy I have ever worked on. Amber seemed to appreciate it too. Several times. I got her up on all fours for some doggie and she almost jumped out of her skin when I put-in. It turns out I was too big. I couldn't drive in or back out without hurting her andI'm not into pain. I've had other girls tell me I am big but I always thought they were stroking my ego. Maybe I am too big for spinners that have not birthed. Bummer. We went back to the so-so CBJ but the mood was pretty much dead by that point. Ran out of time. Didn't nut. Won't repeat. She could be great for more normal sized guys if she could clean up her candy usage and get some rest.

https://independent.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/detroit/66983492

https://sumosear.ch/phone/313-677-2492

Member #6060
09-13-21, 12:09
By saying Money, I assume you mean a lot of money. Not 200-300 for a single experience but maybe 1000 or more. I'll give you a semi-direct lead. Go to Seeking Arrangement. Right now, or at least as recently as last week, I saw a fairly current ad on there featuring a M / F couple. I believe they are in Windsor. I assume they are able to cross the border again now, you know, covid blockade and all. I actually hit them up once 2-3 years ago and had a few brief messaging convos. It never meshed for whatever reason I can't specifically recall now, but probably scheduling on my end. At that time I think they asked 500 so it's probably more now.

Otherwise, If I were in your shoes and had lots of money to burn I'd also try hitting up the high end providers and Doms. Explain your situation / needs and flash the cash, even if it's paying them a finder's fee. They may be more connected to the types of people you're looking for.

You could put ads up on Doublelist. There's a section for couples seeking men.

Good luck.Totally forgot about Doublelist. Thanks! I just wish there were more casual places to go for this. It's either talking to a 600 an hour Dom, or starting a whole new lifestyle. I just want to try a few different things without putting in too much work.

Thanks!

LotharioPK
09-13-21, 13:29
I learned a LOT about the hobby on my latest (mis) adventure. First, in my date with Amber I learned about the joys of a young spinner and the sorrows of drug use and incompatible genital proportions. Then I learned about the risks in scheduling yourself too tightly and the importance of careful communication.

After my date with Amber came (or didn't come?) to an unsatisfactory conclusion, I was in a bad way. I had taken a tadalafil (Cialis) to assure that the purple helmeted warrior did his duty and I had major wood and a lot of frustration. I contacted Delilah, one of my ATFs, for a relief date even though I was pushing my available time window by that point (little head was firmly in control by that point). What happened next can best be described as either a comedy of errors or a tragedy of good intentions. I erased the text thread when I cleaned up the phone later so I don't have the exact conversation but it was something like:

Me 1:00 Hey, can you see me soon?

Her 1:05 OK.

Me 1:07 See you in 15-20 min.

Her 1:25 Oh no! I missed your last message! If I don't answer right away next time call me. I'm at Walmart. I can be there in 30 minutes.

Me 1:26 OK, I'll get close by and wait.

Me 1:35 I'm 3 minutes away. Let me know when you're ready.

At this point I get a call that closes my time window and I have to bail. I felt bad, but I figured she's be no worse off than if I hadn't texted for an appt in the first place. So I text:

Me 1:45 Crap. Life intrudes. My time window has closed. We'll have to try again for another day.

I figured that would be the end of it, but as I'm driving a few minutes later I get a text message and then a phone call from Delilah telling me in no uncertain term what an ahole I am for making another date when she was hurrying, cutting her trip short and paying more money to get back faster (apparently she doesn't drive). I asked her why she thought I was making another date and she said she said I sent a message (my 1:35 message above) telling another girl I would be coming in. I tried to explain that the 1:35 message WAS to her and I WAS 3 minutes from her hotel before my window closed early, but she's not having it so far. I may be down an ATF. Bummer. I'm thinking about trying to make it right by covering her costs for trying to get back. I don't like the feeling I have an unpaid debt. Any feedback from the forum?

Lessons learned:

1) Watch out for girls under the influence.

2) No matter how desperate you are, don't schedule yourself too tightly because something may come up (my bad).

3) Be careful how you communicate with your provider lest your messages be misinterpreted.

4) Never assume your provider is none-the-worse off if you have to cancel (my bad).

Stay Safe.

YogiBaba420
09-13-21, 13:55
I saw Amber (my first young spinner) in a value-priced hotel in Southfield (hint: it has crimson shingles) on a recent weekday afternoon. It took her over an hour to respond to my first message, but after that comms were fairly good. I dropped the donation and we got comfortable.

She was generally pleasant to be with but she was so stoned / exhausted she couldn't set a very enthusiastic vibe for the session. She has a kickin' bod and her small size and micro-titties were a novel and kind of exciting change-of-pace. She is a spinner with a tiny 5'0" 90# super tight body. Smallest and tightest I've ever had. Almost flat chest with really perky nipples. Nice voice and I think she has a cute face, but she was so stoned / exhausted it was difficult to tell. Her eyes were never more than half open. Her teeth were a little sketchy, but difficult to see because she doesn't open her mouth too much to smile or speak.

I convinced her to DFK and she agreed but never really got past a brief LFK. She asked if I was "party friendly" and being naive about such things I assumed she meant pot so I told her I would not indulge but didn't mind if she did. The next thing I know, she is blazing up using a tiny pipe with tiny white pellets. I was so surprised I didn't know what to do so I just rolled with it. She smoked at least 3-4 times during our hour. The environment was also not conducive to a good time because she kept checking her phone during the appt and the TV was blaring some dumb show about rehabbing vacation properties. We started with an only-OK CBJ during which I could feel her teeth a bit and I'd swear she was experiencing "micro sleep" for a few seconds every now-and-again. The highlight of the date for me was a 15 min DATY on the prettiest, tightest little pussy I have ever worked on. Amber seemed to appreciate it too. Several times. I got her up on all fours for some doggie and she almost jumped out of her skin when I put-in. It turns out I was too big. I couldn't drive in or back out without hurting her and I'm not into pain. I've had other girls tell me I am big but I always thought they were stroking my ego.There's no way she's 21! She has to be at least 30+.

Eric586
09-13-21, 14:49
For anyone who might think it's safe enough to use your real phone number when texting, do a reverse number search here:

https://www.truepeoplesearch.com/#.

I was shocked at the amount of info when I reached my own cell number. Just imagine if a girl like the sliding-fast Layna's thug pimp got hold of that?

Use a burner or a texting app. I use TextNow. If anyone has an even better alternative please share.My burner phone comes up as a 35 year old Daneen P* living in Bloomfield. Wrong name wrong age wrong city.

LykBlk
09-13-21, 15:40
I learned a LOT about the hobby on my latest (mis) adventure. First, in my date with Amber I learned about the joys of a young spinner and the sorrows of drug use and incompatible genital proportions. Then I learned about the risks in scheduling yourself too tightly and the importance of careful communication.

After my date with Amber came (or didn't come?) to an unsatisfactory conclusion, I was in a bad way. I had taken a tadalafil (Cialis) to assure that the purple helmeted warrior did his duty and I had major wood and a lot of frustration. I contacted Delilah, one of my ATFs, for a relief date even though I was pushing my available time window by that point (little head was firmly in control by that point). What happened next can best be described as either a comedy of errors or a tragedy of good intentions. I erased the text thread when I cleaned up the phone later so I don't have the exact conversation but it was something like:

Me 1:00 Hey, can you see me soon?

Her 1:05 OK.

Me 1:07 See you in 15-20 min.

Her 1:25 Oh no! I missed your last message! If I don't answer right away next time call me. I'm at Walmart. I can be there in 30 minutes.

Me 1:26 OK, I'll get close by and wait.

Me 1:35 I'm 3 minutes away. Let me know when you're ready.

At this point I get a call that closes my time window and I have to bail. I felt bad, but I figured she's be no worse off than if I hadn't texted for an appt in the first place. So I text:

Me 1:45 Crap. Life intrudes. My time window has closed. We'll have to try again for another day.

I figured that would be the end of it, but as I'm driving a few minutes later I get a text message and then a phone call from Delilah telling me in no uncertain term what an ahole I am for making another date when she was hurrying, cutting her trip short and paying more money to get back faster (apparently she doesn't drive). I asked her why she thought I was making another date and she said she said I sent a message (my 1:35 message above) telling another girl I would be coming in. I tried to explain that the 1:35 message WAS to her and I WAS 3 minutes from her hotel before my window closed early, but she's not having it so far. I may be down an ATF. Bummer. I'm thinking about trying to make it right by covering her costs for trying to get back. I don't like the feeling I have an unpaid debt. Any feedback from the forum?

Lessons learned:

1) Watch out for girls under the influence.

2) No matter how desperate you are, don't schedule yourself too tightly because something may come up (my bad).

3) Be careful how you communicate with your provider lest your messages be misinterpreted.

4) Never assume your provider is none-the-worse off if you have to cancel (my bad).

Stay Safe.For a true ATF, as they're hard to find, I'd negotiate a settlement.

ArmySexy77
09-13-21, 18:00
What were the rates?


I saw Amber (my first young spinner) in a value-priced hotel in Southfield (hint: it has crimson shingles) on a recent weekday afternoon. It took her over an hour to respond to my first message, but after that comms were fairly good. I dropped the donation and we got comfortable.

She was generally pleasant to be with but she was so stoned / exhausted she couldn't set a very enthusiastic vibe for the session. She has a kickin' bod and her small size and micro-titties were a novel and kind of exciting change-of-pace. She is a spinner with a tiny 5'0" 90# super tight body. Smallest and tightest I've ever had. Almost flat chest with really perky nipples. Nice voice and I think she has a cute face, but she was so stoned / exhausted it was difficult to tell. Her eyes were never more than half open. Her teeth were a little sketchy, but difficult to see because she doesn't open her mouth too much to smile or speak.

I convinced her to DFK and she agreed but never really got past a brief LFK. She asked if I was "party friendly" and being naive about such things I assumed she meant pot so I told her I would not indulge but didn't mind if she did. The next thing I know, she is blazing up using a tiny pipe with tiny white pellets. I was so surprised I didn't know what to do so I just rolled with it. She smoked at least 3-4 times during our hour. The environment was also not conducive to a good time because she kept checking her phone during the appt and the TV was blaring some dumb show about rehabbing vacation properties. We started with an only-OK CBJ during which I could feel her teeth a bit and I'd swear she was experiencing "micro sleep" for a few seconds every now-and-again. The highlight of the date for me was a 15 min DATY on the prettiest, tightest little pussy I have ever worked on. Amber seemed to appreciate it too. Several times. I got her up on all fours for some doggie and she almost jumped out of her skin when I put-in. It turns out I was too big. I couldn't drive in or back out without hurting her andI'm not into pain. I've had other girls tell me I am big but I always thought they were stroking my ego. Maybe I am too big for spinners that have not birthed. Bummer. We went back to the so-so CBJ but the mood was pretty much dead by that point. Ran out of time. Didn't nut. Won't repeat. She could be great for more normal sized guys if she could clean up her candy usage and get some rest.

https://independent.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/detroit/66983492

https://sumosear.ch/phone/313-677-2492.

FunnyBoner
09-13-21, 20:07
I learned a LOT about the hobby on my latest (mis) adventure. First, in my date with Amber I learned about the joys of a young spinner and the sorrows of drug use and incompatible genital proportions. Then I learned about the risks in scheduling yourself too tightly and the importance of careful communication.

After my date with Amber came (or didn't come?) to an unsatisfactory conclusion, I was in a bad way. I had taken a tadalafil (Cialis) to assure that the purple helmeted warrior did his duty and I had major wood and a lot of frustration. I contacted Delilah, one of my ATFs, for a relief date even though I was pushing my available time window by that point (little head was firmly in control by that point). What happened next can best be described as either a comedy of errors or a tragedy of good intentions. I erased the text thread when I cleaned up the phone later so I don't have the exact conversation but it was something like:

Me 1:00 Hey, can you see me soon?

Her 1:05 OK.

Me 1:07 See you in 15-20 min.

Her 1:25 Oh no! I missed your last message! If I don't answer right away next time call me. I'm at Walmart. I can be there in 30 minutes.

Me 1:26 OK, I'll get close by and wait.

Me 1:35 I'm 3 minutes away. Let me know when you're ready.

At this point I get a call that closes my time window and I have to bail. I felt bad, but I figured she's be no worse off than if I hadn't texted for an appt in the first place. So I text:

Me 1:45 Crap. Life intrudes. My time window has closed. We'll have to try again for another day.

I figured that would be the end of it, but as I'm driving a few minutes later I get a text message and then a phone call from Delilah telling me in no uncertain term what an ahole I am for making another date when she was hurrying, cutting her trip short and paying more money to get back faster (apparently she doesn't drive). I asked her why she thought I was making another date and she said she said I sent a message (my 1:35 message above) telling another girl I would be coming in. I tried to explain that the 1:35 message WAS to her and I WAS 3 minutes from her hotel before my window closed early, but she's not having it so far. I may be down an ATF. Bummer. I'm thinking about trying to make it right by covering her costs for trying to get back. I don't like the feeling I have an unpaid debt. Any feedback from the forum?

Lessons learned:

1) Watch out for girls under the influence.

2) No matter how desperate you are, don't schedule yourself too tightly because something may come up (my bad).

3) Be careful how you communicate with your provider lest your messages be misinterpreted.

4) Never assume your provider is none-the-worse off if you have to cancel (my bad).

Stay Safe.Don't fall for the BS. She's just trying to get $ out of you without working for it. It's a play.

Just give her a month off of work, then try again with her and I'll bet she'll have no problem seeing you again. If she even remembers what happened, I'd be surprised.

Just my. 02.

OaklandT309
09-13-21, 20:43
Totally forgot about Doublelist. Thanks! I just wish there were more casual places to go for this. It's either talking to a 600 an hour Dom, or starting a whole new lifestyle. I just want to try a few different things without putting in too much work.

Thanks!I didn't mean to suggest paying a Dom their normal hourly rate just talk to see if they have any leads. Maybe a 100 or so for leads and double it if anything pans out.

It just doesn't seem realistic though to get what you want without putting a lot of effort into it, unless Doublelist works out. Good luck.

Passenger
09-13-21, 22:08
I learned a LOT about the hobby on my latest (mis) adventure. First, in my date with Amber I learned about the joys of a young spinner and the sorrows of drug use and incompatible genital proportions. Then I learned about the risks in scheduling yourself too tightly and the importance of careful communication.

After my date with Amber came (or didn't come?) to an unsatisfactory conclusion, I was in a bad way. I had taken a tadalafil (Cialis) to assure that the purple helmeted warrior did his duty and I had major wood and a lot of frustration. I contacted Delilah, one of my ATFs, for a relief date even though I was pushing my available time window by that point (little head was firmly in control by that point). What happened next can best be described as either a comedy of errors or a tragedy of good intentions. I erased the text thread when I cleaned up the phone later so I don't have the exact conversation but it was something like:

Me 1:00 Hey, can you see me soon?

Her 1:05 OK.

Me 1:07 See you in 15-20 min.

Her 1:25 Oh no! I missed your last message! If I don't answer right away next time call me. I'm at Walmart. I can be there in 30 minutes.

Me 1:26 OK, I'll get close by and wait.

Me 1:35 I'm 3 minutes away. Let me know when you're ready.

At this point I get a call that closes my time window and I have to bail. I felt bad, but I figured she's be no worse off than if I hadn't texted for an appt in the first place. So I text:

Me 1:45 Crap. Life intrudes. My time window has closed. We'll have to try again for another day.

I figured that would be the end of it, but as I'm driving a few minutes later I get a text message and then a phone call from Delilah telling me in no uncertain term what an ahole I am for making another date when she was hurrying, cutting her trip short and paying more money to get back faster (apparently she doesn't drive). I asked her why she thought I was making another date and she said she said I sent a message (my 1:35 message above) telling another girl I would be coming in. I tried to explain that the 1:35 message WAS to her and I WAS 3 minutes from her hotel before my window closed early, but she's not having it so far. I may be down an ATF. Bummer. I'm thinking about trying to make it right by covering her costs for trying to get back. I don't like the feeling I have an unpaid debt. Any feedback from the forum?

Lessons learned:

1) Watch out for girls under the influence.

2) No matter how desperate you are, don't schedule yourself too tightly because something may come up (my bad).

3) Be careful how you communicate with your provider lest your messages be misinterpreted.

4) Never assume your provider is none-the-worse off if you have to cancel (my bad).

Stay Safe.I might suggest that you haven't learned enough lessons in your time in the hobby. Some are inconvenient; you tried to shoehorn an appointment into a tiny time slot and are forlorn because your ATF dumped you.

This can be a very dangerous hobby and your chronicle of your misadventures shows that you are often in over your head. You think that Amber is 21; she has a lengthy list of bad reports and has been a provider for years. You paid 400 to a provider off of EB / Listcrawler who works out of a junkie-laden motel. Sure, lots of SPs work out of such places, but you appear to be ill-equipped for that crowd. You don't appear to have the street-smarts or horse-sense. You don't know that party-friendly is using boy and girl, not smoking dope. Jeebus Christ!

I do a lot of figurative facepalms when reading your reports. If you plan to stay in this hobby I suggest that you move up a tier or two in price. Find providers with websites or use agencies. Eros Detroit is probably a much better option for you. EB and STG have bargains as far as providers go, but they also have a plurality of providers working out of rougher locations with rougher characters around. You seem to be pushing your luck.

Passenger
09-13-21, 22:16
Don't fall for the BS. She's just trying to get $ out of you without working for it. It's a play.

Just give her a month off of work, then try again with her and I'll bet she'll have no problem seeing you again. If she even remembers what happened, I'd be surprised.

Just my. 02.It's his idea to pay her more money (that she paid her driver) so that she will bang him again. She didn't ask. This is his facacta idea.

OaklandT309
09-13-21, 22:49
It's his idea to pay her more money (that she paid her driver) so that she will bang him again. She didn't ask. This is his facacta idea.No, she didn't ask him, she guilted him into considering it. But yeah, a facacta idea. She didn't drop everything. And I didn't know you could pay extra and get a super-speedy Uber. I had to ghost a girl last week because my time window closed and the little Mrs. started calling. At first the girl was pissed, then said "oh well, life happens" and we've texted a couple times since to re-schedule later this week.

LotharioPK
09-13-21, 23:06
What were the rates?

.$200 / Hr + $30 for GFE / DFK which she never really followed through on and didn't collect on.

OaklandT309
09-13-21, 23:10
I learned a LOT about the hobby on my latest (mis) adventure. First, in my date with Amber I learned about the joys of a young spinner and the sorrows of drug use and incompatible genital proportions. Then I learned about the risks in scheduling yourself too tightly and the importance of careful communication.

After my date with Amber came (or didn't come?) to an unsatisfactory conclusion, I was in a bad way. I had taken a tadalafil (Cialis) to assure that the purple helmeted warrior did his duty and I had major wood and a lot of frustration. I contacted Delilah, one of my ATFs, for a relief date even though I was pushing my available time window by that point (little head was firmly in control by that point). What happened next can best be described as either a comedy of errors or a tragedy of good intentions. I erased the text thread when I cleaned up the phone later so I don't have the exact conversation but it was something like:

Me 1:00 Hey, can you see me soon?

Her 1:05 OK.

Me 1:07 See you in 15-20 min.

Her 1:25 Oh no! I missed your last message! If I don't answer right away next time call me. I'm at Walmart. I can be there in 30 minutes.

Me 1:26 OK, I'll get close by and wait.

Me 1:35 I'm 3 minutes away. Let me know when you're ready.

At this point I get a call that closes my time window and I have to bail. I felt bad, but I figured she's be no worse off than if I hadn't texted for an appt in the first place. So I text:

Me 1:45 Crap. Life intrudes. My time window has closed. We'll have to try again for another day.

I figured that would be the end of it, but as I'm driving a few minutes later I get a text message and then a phone call from Delilah telling me in no uncertain term what an ahole I am for making another date when she was hurrying, cutting her trip short and paying more money to get back faster (apparently she doesn't drive). I asked her why she thought I was making another date and she said she said I sent a message (my 1:35 message above) telling another girl I would be coming in. I tried to explain that the 1:35 message WAS to her and I WAS 3 minutes from her hotel before my window closed early, but she's not having it so far. I may be down an ATF. Bummer. I'm thinking about trying to make it right by covering her costs for trying to get back. I don't like the feeling I have an unpaid debt. Any feedback from the forum?

Lessons learned:

1) Watch out for girls under the influence.

2) No matter how desperate you are, don't schedule yourself too tightly because something may come up (my bad).1) Watch out for girls under the influence.

Dude, you couldn't tell from the photos she was a serious addict? Hell, you may as well assume they are addicts. Few are not. Once they start hitting their sauces, literally while they are sitting there with you, just forget it. They're too gorked-out to give anything more than lackluster.

2) No matter how desperate you are, don't schedule yourself too tightly because something may come up (my bad).

Definitely. Everyone knows how long it takes for them to reply sometimes to initial contact. If they aren't ready right then and there you can almost guarantee an hour or more delay.

3) Be careful how you communicate with your provider lest your messages be misinterpreted.

Definitely, again. Leave nothing to chance. Be specific. Even if some review says they did this or that don't assume it's on the menu for you too. Ask.

4) Never assume your provider is none-the-worse off if you have to cancel (my bad).

Piffle. They wouldn't give you a 2nd thought if they got a better offer.

LotharioPK
09-13-21, 23:31
There's no way she's 21! She has to be at least 30+.While I freely admit that the older I get the harder it is to pin down the exact ages of people younger than I am, I don't think I could be off by 8 years. Her ad says 22 and if the Amber I saw (check the links) is older than 25, I'd be shocked. In my limited experience the girls will definitely soft-pedal their age but the real lying doesn't usually start until they turn 40 and are 39 in their ads for years. Nikki 38? C'Mon. Man!

LotharioPK
09-13-21, 23:51
I might suggest that you haven't learned enough lessons in your time in the hobby. Some are inconvenient; you tried to shoehorn an appointment into a tiny time slot and are forlorn because your ATF dumped you.

This can be a very dangerous hobby and your chronicle of your misadventures shows that you are often in over your head. You think that Amber is 21; she has a lengthy list of bad reports and has been a provider for years. You paid 400 to a provider off of EB / Listcrawler who works out of a junkie-laden motel. Sure, lots of SPs work out of such places, but you appear to be ill-equipped for that crowd. You don't appear to have the street-smarts or horse-sense. You don't know that party-friendly is using boy and girl, not smoking dope. Jeebus Christ!

I do a lot of figurative facepalms when reading your reports. If you plan to stay in this hobby I suggest that you move up a tier or two in price. Find providers with websites or use agencies. Eros Detroit is probably a much better option for you. EB and STG have bargains as far as providers go, but they also have a plurality of providers working out of rougher locations with rougher characters around. You seem to be pushing your luck.Wow, I feel "taken to the woodshed"! I agree I've lived a pretty sheltered life and am not equipped for the really rough areas which is why I have tried hard to avoid them. I think that you think I saw the Amber from Cece-Land down at Tireman ("Teirman") and Wyoming, but it was not. Check the links again. I personally can't envision going down into the city proper to visit a provider. I'm sorry if I cause you personal angst, but I am not in a position to drop $400 every time I sprout a woody, so I guess I'll just have to soldier on with the value-priced girls and learn more lessons. I just try to share what I have learned with the forum in hopes of entertaining a bit and helping someone avoid my mistakes and in the hope that I will get pearls of wisdom from other mongers. Look at what I just learned from you about "party friendly"! What did I learn? The wording wasa bit vague, but thanks! If you want to share a list of girls and / or places I should avoid with my limited street-smarts and horse-sense I'll gladly thank you.

Sid63
09-14-21, 08:14
Wow, I feel "taken to the woodshed"! I agree I've lived a pretty sheltered life and am not equipped for the really rough areas which is why I have tried hard to avoid them. I think that you think I saw the Amber from Cece-Land down at Tireman ("Teirman") and Wyoming, but it was not. Check the links again. I personally can't envision going down into the city proper to visit a provider. I'm sorry if I cause you personal angst, but I am not in a position to drop $400 every time I sprout a woody, so I guess I'll just have to soldier on with the value-priced girls and learn more lessons. I just try to share what I have learned with the forum in hopes of entertaining a bit and helping someone avoid my mistakes and in the hope that I will get pearls of wisdom from other mongers. Look at what I just learned from you about "party friendly"! What did I learn? The wording wasa bit vague, but thanks! If you want to share a list of girls and / or places I should avoid with my limited street-smarts and horse-sense I'll gladly thank you.I agree with you. You and I are very similar. No Detroit for me. However with that said I have been to Cece's house. It isn't that bad of an area. I felt ok, and I think Cece is a nice person and have had good experiences with her. I do NOT think the "other" Amber is safe-something about her and how she moves around Detroit bothers me.

On another note, I've been to see "Tiny but Tuff", at the "I-94 and Moross" exit. THAT is a bit rough area. Got there and parked on the street next to what I thought was her address turns out it this others guys house and he wants to STAB me! So I left, went around the block and found her house about 6 houses down. Guy was gone, date went OK, but I won't return. Too far to drive and crap neighborhood. Even with my hoopdy SUV, it didn't feel right.

https://independent.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/detroit/67080014

TeeTime69
09-14-21, 08:15
While I freely admit that the older I get the harder it is to pin down the exact ages of people younger than I am, I don't think I could be off by 8 years. Her ad says 22 and if the Amber I saw (check the links) is older than 25, I'd be shocked. In my limited experience the girls will definitely soft-pedal their age but the real lying doesn't usually start until they turn 40 and are 39 in their ads for years. Nikki 38? C'Mon. Man!Saying you haven't spent time in Asian massage parlors without saying you haven't spent time in AMPs.Its easy to be off 10-12 years.

As for being taken to the woodshed, you were, but rightfully so. This is a great example of Dunning-Kruger. Google it. Stay alive. Stay healthy.

LotharioPK
09-14-21, 08:21
I agree with you. You and I are very similar. No Detroit for me. However with that said I have been to Cece's house. It isn't that bad of an area. I felt ok, and I think Cece is a nice person and have had good experiences with her. I do NOT think the "other" Amber is safe-something about her and how she moves around Detroit bothers me.

On another note, I've been to see "Tiny but Tuff", at the "I-94 and Moross" exit. THAT is a bit rough area. Got there and parked on the street next to what I thought was her address turns out it this others guys house and he wants to STAB me! So I left, went around the block and found her house about 6 houses down. Guy was gone, date went OK, but I won't return. Too far to drive and crap neighborhood. Even with my hoopdy SUV, it didn't feel right.

https://independent.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/detroit/67080014Thanks for the feedback. Tiny But Tuff was on my radar. How could she not be with those pics? I'll reconsider my list. See! He CAN be taught!

LotharioPK
09-14-21, 08:25
Saying you haven't spent time in Asian massage parlors without saying you haven't spent time in AMPs.Its easy to be off 10-12 years.

As for being taken to the woodshed, you were, but rightfully so. This is a great example of Dunning-Kruger. Google it. Stay alive. Stay healthy.I COULD be wrong, but I've seen Drea who is 34 and this Amber was quite a bit younger in my non-expert estimation. She is much closer in physical age to Layna (before she fell apart) who is 26/27. I try to only see girls with a substantial history and reviews and in areas I am comfortable going to. Anything else I should look for?

WednesdayFun
09-14-21, 09:13
I saw Amber (my first young spinner) in a value-priced hotel in Southfield (hint: it has crimson shingles) on a recent weekday afternoon. It took her over an hour to respond to my first message, but after that comms were fairly good. I dropped the donation and we got comfortable.

She was generally pleasant to be with but she was so stoned / exhausted she couldn't set a very enthusiastic vibe for the session. She has a kickin' bod and her small size and micro-titties were a novel and kind of exciting change-of-pace. She is a spinner with a tiny 5'0" 90# super tight body. Smallest and tightest I've ever had. Almost flat chest with really perky nipples. Nice voice and I think she has a cute face, but she was so stoned / exhausted it was difficult to tell. Her eyes were never more than half open. Her teeth were a little sketchy, but difficult to see because she doesn't open her mouth too much to smile or speak.

I convinced her to DFK and she agreed but never really got past a brief LFK. She asked if I was "party friendly" and being naive about such things I assumed she meant pot so I told her I would not indulge but didn't mind if she did. The next thing I know, she is blazing up using a tiny pipe with tiny white pellets. I was so surprised I didn't know what to do so I just rolled with it. She smoked at least 3-4 times during our hour. The environment was also not conducive to a good time because she kept checking her phone during the appt and the TV was blaring some dumb show about rehabbing vacation properties. We started with an only-OK CBJ during which I could feel her teeth a bit and I'd swear she was experiencing "micro sleep" for a few seconds every now-and-again. The highlight of the date for me was a 15 min DATY on the prettiest, tightest little pussy I have ever worked on. Amber seemed to appreciate it too. Several times. I got her up on all fours for some doggie and she almost jumped out of her skin when I put-in. It turns out I was too big. I couldn't drive in or back out without hurting her andI'm not into pain. I've had other girls tell me I am big but I always thought they were stroking my ego. Maybe I am too big for spinners that have not birthed. Bummer. We went back to the so-so CBJ but the mood was pretty much dead by that point. Ran out of time. Didn't nut. Won't repeat. She could be great for more normal sized guys if she could clean up her candy usage and get some rest.

https://independent.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/detroit/66983492

https://sumosear.ch/phone/313-677-2492I'm frankly amazed you got to do anything with her before a boyfriend / pimp came rolling up to kick you out. That girl's a complete piece of shit.

IWonderWhy
09-14-21, 09:15
She quoted me 400/ hr last weekend. Please tell me you didn't pay this or the half hour equivalent?Sadly, yes I dropped $400. Never found a willing provider for a trip to Greece. They say ok on the phone and then wave off once they see what I plan on pushing through then back door. I waited until she fully appreciated what was being asked. Once she said she was in, I paid. And I am still paying from the rash on my ass after rolling around with that nasty ho.

Fat Hammer
09-14-21, 09:31
Does anyone have any intel on Dr. Chloe in Melvindale?

https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/michigan/detroit/62478753/

Sid63
09-14-21, 10:45
Thanks for the feedback. Tiny But Tuff was on my radar. How could she not be with those pics? I'll reconsider my list. See! He CAN be taught!Dude, I wouldn't write her off, she's pretty good, and nice. Do the 60 special. In and out in 10. Just make sure you key in on the right house, tell her to give you a landmark or something to tell you which house it is. Oh, and don't drive too nice a car.

My problem was I usually get out and make a "confident" bee line to the house, and I wear jeans and t shirt, but I'm white, 50's and clean cut. She said that was the issue, he may have thought I was a cop.

Next time I guess I wear my cargo pants on my thighs, with an IceT t shirt and a clock around my neck.

Besides, at 60 for BBBJ, you'll get your dollar cost average down and that's always nice.

YogiBaba420
09-14-21, 11:36
Does anyone have any intel on Dr. Chloe in Melvindale?

https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/michigan/detroit/62478753/I don't think I'll be able to get a boner with her.

I was excited after reading the ad until I saw the pics. She looks scary LOL.

LotharioPK
09-14-21, 12:15
I'm frankly amazed you got to do anything with her before a boyfriend / pimp came rolling up to kick you out. That girl's a complete piece of shit.That's too bad because if she could kick the candy and get herself cleaned up and rested up she could promote herself to Tryst and get $300/ Hr easy.

LotharioPK
09-14-21, 12:24
Dude, I wouldn't write her off, she's pretty good, and nice. Do the 60 special. In and out in 10. Just make sure you key in on the right house, tell her to give you a landmark or something to tell you which house it is. Oh, and don't drive too nice a car.

My problem was I usually get out and make a "confident" bee line to the house, and I wear jeans and t shirt, but I'm white, 50's and clean cut. She said that was the issue, he may have thought I was a cop.

Next time I guess I wear my cargo pants on my thighs, with an IceT t shirt and a clock around my neck.

Besides, at 60 for BBBJ, you'll get your dollar cost average down and that's always nice.How about a 60 YO white-bread suburban professional driving an Equinox? Would that raise any eyebrows? 🤔.

SuperTrooper
09-14-21, 12:40
Worth the price of admission? Would love to hear feedback from anyone that has had an experience with her.Guys any info on this provider? Saw her in Houston last year and saw she use to advertise in Detroit. Site is down and no response back. PM me if you have details.

Jd2011
09-14-21, 13:13
I saw Stacy maybe 6 months ago. I can't remember if I reported about my experience or not. Finally got to see her after she ghosted me twice I think. Experience was just ok. I guess ok to unload a nut in time of need. She can deepthroat and took every drop down the hatch. She's probably the only woman and my history that could deep throat's me. FS was just ok. I think I paid $100 for the half and half. Probably worth it for the $60 top only as another stated. Yes, you will feel uncomfortable I. The hood be a 60 yo white professional driving an SUV. There's really no way around parking in the street in front of someone else's house then walking to her pad. I went during a rain downpour which lessens your visibility I believe.


How about a 60 YO white-bread suburban professional driving an Equinox? Would that raise any eyebrows? 🤔.

Fat Hammer
09-14-21, 17:01
I don't think I'll be able to get a boner with her.

I was excited after reading the ad until I saw the pics. She looks scary LOL.Different strokes for different folks I guess. Doesn't look scary at all to me. Just looking for some insight b 4 I TOFTT.

EdHemlock
09-14-21, 17:20
Link:

https://detroit.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/good-moaning-payday-playday/870165835523

Good:

Initial communication was quick and easy, no issues with setting up an appointment.

Easy to find, get in area, call, guided, easy.

Decent area (Madison Heights).

Bad:

Pricey $$ 0 --Would've been fine if not for the next point.

Not her in pictures. Maybe in a past life (size of bust was accurate / fun) but from photos to current is probably easily 50-70 lbs maybe more.

Description isn't accurate, I'd say she's more dom oriented, but that's just my feeling.

Bit the bullet since I was already there but should've left on arrival and disparity / obvious catfish. Will not repeat.

EdHemlock
09-14-21, 19:52
Link:

https://detroit.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/good-moaning-payday-playday/870165835523

Bad:

Pricey $$ 0 --Would've been fine if not for the next point.Meant to be 3 $.

LotharioPK
09-14-21, 20:09
Link:

https://detroit.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/good-moaning-payday-playday/870165835523

Good:

Initial communication was quick and easy, no issues with setting up an appointment.

Easy to find, get in area, call, guided, easy.

Decent area (Madison Heights).

Bad:

Pricey $$ 0 --Would've been fine if not for the next point.

Not her in pictures. Maybe in a past life (size of bust was accurate / fun) but from photos to current is probably easily 50-70 lbs maybe more.

Description isn't accurate, I'd say she's more dom oriented, but that's just my feeling.

Bit the bullet since I was already there but should've left on arrival and disparity / obvious catfish. Will not repeat.Thanks for TOFTT! I have seen her ads and thought they were at least interesting. The pics are a bit heavy for my taste but I figured she still might be fun. Now that I know she's actually heavier, it's a pass for me.

Make this review last longer for other mongers to find, add a sumosearch link for her if you can. They last longer than most other kinds of links.

DannyWilson216
09-14-21, 20:13
Moved back to area (Macomb) and have been following the thread while I was away. I have seen that supply is scarce as well as prices shooting up. I am looking for a decent provider, no drama, on the Eastside (MACOMB-OAKLAND area) . A UTR would be great, most of my contacts have either moved on, or presently visiting the Graybar resort for varying lengths of time. Feel free to PM me any information you would be willing to share. Thanks.

EdHemlock
09-14-21, 20:23
Thanks for TOFTT! I have seen her ads and thought they were at least interesting. The pics are a bit heavy for my taste but I figured she still might be fun. Now that I know she's actually heavier, it's a pass for me.

Make this review last longer for other mongers to find, add a sumosearch link for her if you can. They last longer than most other kinds of links.https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/michigan/detroit/65508714

586-XXX-8086.

SumoSearch doesn't find any results of her postings (or gives the server error when attempting to search. Adding 2nd link.

LotharioPK
09-15-21, 00:21
My desktop computer updated itself tonight so I had to reopen all my hobby browser windows. Imagine my surprise when I tried to login to LC and got the message "this account does not exist". Not "incorrect password", but "does not exist". Did I just get bounced from LC? Has anyone else ever had this happen? Aside from doing a lot of lookups, all I have done on LC is review a few providers and comment on a bunch of ads that are obvious fakes because they use stolen pics. I did notice that as of earlier this afternoon they had not yet posted my review of Amber from yesterday. Do honest, unflattering reviews get you into hot water with LC?

Update: Just tried to recreate my account using my handle "LotharioPK" but it won't let me - it says that Rogue Name already exists! How can it both exist and not exist? Can someone post if my Amber review appears? I can't see the reviews without an ID! Suggestions anyone?

SmolPepe
09-15-21, 01:00
This happens to me all the time since I only use it incognito. I think the accounts partially use cookies, but no clue. I have to make a new account every time and its really stupid. Just make a new account and drop a bad review for someone you don't like or review a fake post. Then you can see reviews again.


My desktop computer updated itself tonight so I had to reopen all my hobby browser windows. Imagine my surprise when I tried to login to LC and got the message "this account does not exist". Not "incorrect password", but "does not exist". Did I just get bounced from LC? Has anyone else ever had this happen? Aside from doing a lot of lookups, all I have done on LC is review a few providers and comment on a bunch of ads that are obvious fakes because they use stolen pics. I did notice that as of earlier this afternoon they had not yet posted my review of Amber from yesterday. Do honest, unflattering reviews get you into hot water with LC?

Update: Just tried to recreate my account using my handle "LotharioPK" but it won't let me - it says that Rogue Name already exists! How can it both exist and not exist? Can someone post if my Amber review appears? I can't see the reviews without an ID! Suggestions anyone?

WillyMatt123
09-15-21, 02:37
Link:

https://detroit.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/good-moaning-payday-playday/870165835523

Good:

Initial communication was quick and easy, no issues with setting up an appointment.

Easy to find, get in area, call, guided, easy.

Decent area (Madison Heights).

Bad:

Pricey $$ 0 --Would've been fine if not for the next point.

Not her in pictures. Maybe in a past life (size of bust was accurate / fun) but from photos to current is probably easily 50-70 lbs maybe more.

Description isn't accurate, I'd say she's more dom oriented, but that's just my feeling.

Bit the bullet since I was already there but should've left on arrival and disparity / obvious catfish. Will not repeat.Thanks Ed. Was going to see her soon. The pics are at the fringe of my weight limit also. I would have been mad if I showed up and it was a catfish. You save me time, aggrevation and a walk out. Thanks very much!

LuvHugeTits
09-15-21, 05:31
My desktop computer updated itself tonight so I had to reopen all my hobby browser windows. Imagine my surprise when I tried to login to LC and got the message "this account does not exist". Not "incorrect password", but "does not exist". Did I just get bounced from LC? Has anyone else ever had this happen? Aside from doing a lot of lookups, all I have done on LC is review a few providers and comment on a bunch of ads that are obvious fakes because they use stolen pics. I did notice that as of earlier this afternoon they had not yet posted my review of Amber from yesterday. Do honest, unflattering reviews get you into hot water with LC?

Update: Just tried to recreate my account using my handle "LotharioPK" but it won't let me - it says that Rogue Name already exists! How can it both exist and not exist? Can someone post if my Amber review appears? I can't see the reviews without an ID! Suggestions anyone?Yup, it looks like it. There are no comments or reviews on Amber's post from you. Not only did she give you the worst appointment, but she probably reported you, and you were bounced from LC. That sucks.

I know all too well. It has happened to me a few times on LC for putting a comment or true review. But after a few times, I wisened up and keep a low profile there.

What you're going to need to do is completely erase your search history, get a new email address, and sign up for the review site with the new addy.

But on a good note, your reviews with Peggy, Layna and others are still there. You just can't use that login anymore.

WednesdayFun
09-15-21, 07:04
My desktop computer updated itself tonight so I had to reopen all my hobby browser windows. Imagine my surprise when I tried to login to LC and got the message "this account does not exist". Not "incorrect password", but "does not exist". Did I just get bounced from LC? Has anyone else ever had this happen? Aside from doing a lot of lookups, all I have done on LC is review a few providers and comment on a bunch of ads that are obvious fakes because they use stolen pics. I did notice that as of earlier this afternoon they had not yet posted my review of Amber from yesterday. Do honest, unflattering reviews get you into hot water with LC?

Update: Just tried to recreate my account using my handle "LotharioPK" but it won't let me - it says that Rogue Name already exists! How can it both exist and not exist? Can someone post if my Amber review appears? I can't see the reviews without an ID! Suggestions anyone?They'll kick you out just for the comments on fake ads. But yes, they don't like reviews that aren't glowing. LC sucks ass that way.

SamBoyFun
09-15-21, 07:32
I COULD be wrong, but I've seen Drea who is 34 and this Amber was quite a bit younger in my non-expert estimation. She is much closer in physical age to Layna (before she fell apart) who is 26/27. I try to only see girls with a substantial history and reviews and in areas I am comfortable going to. Anything else I should look for?Layna is also 34 years old, in a couple months. Definitely, ladies' ages are difficult to tell, and even more so when they have a rough lifestyle.

I think it's actually nice if a girl looked significantly younger than her biological age, and if you had a pleasant experience.

JoeDocks11
09-15-21, 08:13
My desktop computer updated itself tonight so I had to reopen all my hobby browser windows. Imagine my surprise when I tried to login to LC and got the message "this account does not exist". Not "incorrect password", but "does not exist". Did I just get bounced from LC? Has anyone else ever had this happen? Aside from doing a lot of lookups, all I have done on LC is review a few providers and comment on a bunch of ads that are obvious fakes because they use stolen pics. I did notice that as of earlier this afternoon they had not yet posted my review of Amber from yesterday. Do honest, unflattering reviews get you into hot water with LC?

Update: Just tried to recreate my account using my handle "LotharioPK" but it won't let me - it says that Rogue Name already exists! How can it both exist and not exist? Can someone post if my Amber review appears? I can't see the reviews without an ID! Suggestions anyone?Go into your cookies and delete any from cloud9.

LotharioPK
09-15-21, 09:02
They'll kick you out just for the comments on fake ads. But yes, they don't like reviews that aren't glowing. LC sucks ass that way.Looks like LotharioPK is gone from LC, but some new guy called LotharioKP showed up. Go figure. 😉.

I need to figure out why I got shit-canned so it doesn't happen again. Was it just the bad review? The fact that I mentioned candy use? Opinions, please.

As a side-note, changing the ID is enough, I used the same email and password.

Joey King
09-15-21, 09:47
I saw the review by EdHemlock and decided to give it a try as I am a sucker for those huge tits. She sent a quote of $300 for an hour with no GFE or anything other than one shot FS, for $450 an hour she will include GFE, multiples, greek and more. Then she wants a picture of my complete drivers license (DL # can be covered but not pic, name or address) and payment up front. I asked her to send her license and a current pic of entire body and she refused. Needless to say I called her out as a scammer and she has been texting me crazy stuff, pics, videos and even name calling.

https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/michigan/detroit/65508714

WillyMatt123
09-15-21, 09:54
I saw the review by EdHemlock and decided to give it a try as I am a sucker for those huge tits. She sent a quote of $300 for an hour with no GFE or anything other than one shot FS, for $450 an hour she will include GFE, multiples, greek and more. Then she wants a picture of my complete drivers license (DL # can be covered but not pic, name or address) and payment up front. I asked her to send her license and a current pic of entire body and she refused. Needless to say I called her out as a scammer and she has been texting me crazy stuff, pics, videos and even name calling.

https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/michigan/detroit/65508714What a nut job. Does she really think someone is going to send her $300 sight unseen? I can't believe enough guys would do this enough to keep them trying It.

JoeyRamone
09-15-21, 09:54
Looks like LotharioPK is gone from LC, but some new guy called LotharioKP showed up. Go figure. 😉.

I need to figure out why I got shit-canned so it doesn't happen again. Was it just the bad review? The fact that I mentioned candy use? Opinions, please.

As a side-note, changing the ID is enough, I used the same email and password.I say don't bother. LC is fine for finding providers but I don't even bother reading the reviews anymore since they're so manipulated by deleting negatives.

And you don't need to log in just to look.

This is the place I come to for reviews.

And BTW PrivaZer is a great program to erase your cookies and browsing history. And it's free.

OaklandT309
09-15-21, 10:12
What a nut job. Does she really think someone is going to send her $300 sight unseen? I can't believe enough guys would do this enough to keep them trying It.I'm with you. Any ad without a clear face photo is automatically skipped. And FWIW, I saw recent reviews here of her that said she 50-70 lbs heavier than I these old photos.

YogiBaba420
09-15-21, 11:41
I saw the review by EdHemlock and decided to give it a try as I am a sucker for those huge tits. She sent a quote of $300 for an hour with no GFE or anything other than one shot FS, for $450 an hour she will include GFE, multiples, greek and more. Then she wants a picture of my complete drivers license (DL # can be covered but not pic, name or address) and payment up front. I asked her to send her license and a current pic of entire body and she refused. Needless to say I called her out as a scammer and she has been texting me crazy stuff, pics, videos and even name calling.

https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/michigan/detroit/65508714All that cellulite, not keeping herself in shape and bad attitude and a GPS. Did she miss any red flags?

CMorePussy
09-15-21, 12:27
I saw the review by EdHemlock and decided to give it a try as I am a sucker for those huge tits. She sent a quote of $300 for an hour with no GFE or anything other than one shot FS, for $450 an hour she will include GFE, multiples, greek and more. Then she wants a picture of my complete drivers license (DL # can be covered but not pic, name or address) and payment up front. I asked her to send her license and a current pic of entire body and she refused. Needless to say I called her out as a scammer and she has been texting me crazy stuff, pics, videos and even name calling.

https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/michigan/detroit/65508714Don't even think about seeing her. I tried it once about a year ago, and it was the sorriest 300 I ever spent (live and learn). She may have some big tits, but the rest of her is large too. So, definitely not a spinner or light weight. Additionally, now she wants way too much personal info to warrant a visit. She is one that I would never see again, she did nothing special and didn't even take all her clothes off she was so large. As bad as it seems now, I was just glad to get out of her house which she was using then.

Freddy100
09-15-21, 13:50
I never saw her, but I'm pretty sure it's the same one that has been around forever, always used fake pics and moves around from city to city. Looks like she finally changed her pics to a new set of pic, still not her. Always got bad reviews!


Don't even think about seeing her. I tried it once about a year ago, and it was the sorriest 300 I ever spent (live and learn). She may have some big tits, but the rest of her is large too. So, definitely not a spinner or light weight. Additionally, now she wants way too much personal info to warrant a visit. She is one that I would never see again, she did nothing special and didn't even take all her clothes off she was so large. As bad as it seems now, I was just glad to get out of her house which she was using then.

NaughtyMan
09-15-21, 18:43
I never saw her, but I'm pretty sure it's the same one that has been around forever, always used fake pics and moves around from city to city. Looks like she finally changed her pics to a new set of pic, still not her. Always got bad reviews!I did saw her once and it was a totally waste time and money. The pictures are definitely not her.

Chug A Lug
09-15-21, 20:15
Coming up to the D in a few days and looking for some help. I'm from the lower east side but it's been 30 years since I've lived up there, with some short visits in between.

I love a good WSW but probably won't partake being that I will be in a rental car. I am still street wise and always aware, but not really into taking unnecessary risks while up there. I still do the stroll here on the 7 mile stretch of the " Infamous Trail " but I can carry here and know all the ins and outs of what goes on here and in the streets.

Escorts with ads: Pretty much the the same deal here for someone that doesn't have any connections. LC, EB, SS, stg, adultsearch ect. You through out 5 lines in the afternoon and if you do get a response it will most likely be at 4:00 am or then next morning at 10:30 am. (Checkout time and I spent all my money at the candy shop) Lmao. You got to love them.

First stop on my way from the airport to Macomb County where I will be staying. https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/michigan/detroit/67147706 (any advise).

I'm probably asking for help in the wrong thread, if so please let me know. If you are ever in Orlando, I have you covered except in the AMP's.

Thanks Guys.

OaklandT309
09-15-21, 21:52
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Member #6492
09-15-21, 23:00
Has anyone seen the young and white Krystal recently? Her postings are usually come and go and I'm never able to get a hold of her.

LotharioPK
09-16-21, 00:45
I say don't bother. LC is fine for finding providers but I don't even bother reading the reviews anymore since they're so manipulated by deleting negatives.

And you don't need to log in just to look.

This is the place I come to for reviews.

And BTW PrivaZer is a great program to erase your cookies and browsing history. And it's free.Upon reflection, I prolly got the boot because I explicitly called out her candy consumption during the session. I will be much more circumspect in future reviews on EB but I'll continue to give the full skinny on this forum.

LotharioPK
09-16-21, 00:51
Coming up to the D in a few days and looking for some help. I'm from the lower east side but it's been 30 years since I've lived up there, with some short visits in between.

I love a good WSW but probably won't partake being that I will be in a rental car. I am still street wise and always aware, but not really into taking unnecessary risks while up there. I still do the stroll here on the 7 mile stretch of the " Infamous Trail " but I can carry here and know all the ins and outs of what goes on here and in the streets.

Escorts with ads: Pretty much the the same deal here for someone that doesn't have any connections. LC, EB, SS, stg, adultsearch ect. You through out 5 lines in the afternoon and if you do get a response it will most likely be at 4:00 am or then next morning at 10:30 am. (Checkout time and I spent all my money at the candy shop) Lmao. You got to love them.

First stop on my way from the airport to Macomb County where I will be staying. https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/michigan/detroit/67147706 (any advise).

I'm probably asking for help in the wrong thread, if so please let me know. If you are ever in Orlando, I have you covered except in the AMP's.

Thanks Guys.She was recently reviewed here as a "meh" provider in a very sketchy neighborhood. FWIW.

Mike Adriano
09-16-21, 07:10
Coming up to the D in a few days and looking for some help. I'm from the lower east side but it's been 30 years since I've lived up there, with some short visits in between.

I love a good WSW but probably won't partake being that I will be in a rental car. I am still street wise and always aware, but not really into taking unnecessary risks while up there. I still do the stroll here on the 7 mile stretch of the " Infamous Trail " but I can carry here and know all the ins and outs of what goes on here and in the streets.

Escorts with ads: Pretty much the the same deal here for someone that doesn't have any connections. LC, EB, SS, stg, adultsearch ect. You through out 5 lines in the afternoon and if you do get a response it will most likely be at 4:00 am or then next morning at 10:30 am. (Checkout time and I spent all my money at the candy shop) Lmao. You got to love them.

First stop on my way from the airport to Macomb County where I will be staying. https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/michigan/detroit/67147706 (any advise).

I'm probably asking for help in the wrong thread, if so please let me know. If you are ever in Orlando, I have you covered except in the AMP's.

Thanks Guys.Just a heads up, I've been trying to get in contact with her for over a month, with a fellow senior mongers permission to use his name as a reference and crickets. Referring to Lothario's post, looking like it's not worth the time. Hopefully some seniors may chime in on some currently reputable providers on the East side, as I have nothing to give you at this time. Good luck and Remain safe.

JoeyRamone
09-16-21, 08:08
Coming up to the D in a few days and looking for some help. I'm from the lower east side but it's been 30 years since I've lived up there, with some short visits in between.

I love a good WSW but probably won't partake being that I will be in a rental car. I am still street wise and always aware, but not really into taking unnecessary risks while up there. I still do the stroll here on the 7 mile stretch of the " Infamous Trail " but I can carry here and know all the ins and outs of what goes on here and in the streets.

Escorts with ads: Pretty much the the same deal here for someone that doesn't have any connections. LC, EB, SS, stg, adultsearch ect. You through out 5 lines in the afternoon and if you do get a response it will most likely be at 4:00 am or then next morning at 10:30 am. (Checkout time and I spent all my money at the candy shop) Lmao. You got to love them.

First stop on my way from the airport to Macomb County where I will be staying. https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/michigan/detroit/67147706 (any advise).

I'm probably asking for help in the wrong thread, if so please let me know. If you are ever in Orlando, I have you covered except in the AMP's.

Thanks Guys.She's a decent provider. Cute little spinner with no tattoos which is a nice change. She's pretty enthusiastic and is open to a lot but Greek is off the table. BBBJ, FIV, CFS.

I've seen 3 or 4 times but last time I got there and she gave me the My sister just showed up bullshit. Asked me to drive around the block a couple times. After 20 minutes of this I left. She texted later and asked me to come back but I had moved on. That said I'll see her again.

I don't know if I'd call the neighborhood sketchy but things have changed A LOT in 30 years but if you're comfortable cruising those areas where you're from then it probably won't be a problem. I'm fine going there. Doesn't bother me at all.

OaklandT309
09-16-21, 08:22
Has anyone seen the young and white Krystal recently? Her postings are usually come and go and I'm never able to get a hold of her.Got a link to an ad so we all know which girl you're talking about?

OaklandT309
09-16-21, 08:34
Upon reflection, I prolly got the boot because I explicitly called out her candy consumption during the session. I will be much more circumspect in future reviews on EB but I'll continue to give the full skinny on this forum.Post a review on The Erotic Review. You'll get 15 days of free VIP for a review. But don't be quite so explicit about the drugs. Instead say it in code like "She really likes her candy" or "She kept gong into the bathroom to do more YKW. " or "Her teeth were rotted-out from YKW" or "Marks and bruises all over her arms and legs. We all know what that means. " I had a review there that was unapproved for saying a girl was smoking crack. When I changed to 'code" it was approved.

Incognito1234
09-16-21, 09:01
How about a 60 YO white-bread suburban professional driving an Equinox? Would that raise any eyebrows? 🤔.LOL! Not at all, I'm sure you blended right in.

You know, if you're going to go to areas like that, why not try the strip clubs, like Henry's or Bogart's? They're definitely not top tier accommodations and the booths are small but finding a 20 ish something to get a quick nut wouldn't be terribly difficult. Undoubtedly, OTC would be available.

OaklandT309
09-16-21, 09:31
I'm heading to Flint Thursday or Friday for a job gig that will leave my afternoon free. Yes, I know this is the Detroit forum. And I know Flint has it's own forum, but it's not nearly as active. There's more posts here in. Given day than they have in a month.

So, does anyone have a solid recommendation for a white GFE, BBBJ, DATY provider in Flint that isn't a raging strung-out barely-lucid addict? TIA.

LykBlk
09-16-21, 10:07
I've seen her three or four times and other than the communication issue, she speaks very softly and I can't hear shit, they've all been very positive experiences. The neighborhood is not that bad and as far as finding her house she gives you the address. I asked her about anal and she does it sometimes depending on size, mine fit. Twice were just for bbj with swallow which was good. Good pretty much describes her, nothing special but good. She's nice, neighborhood is ok, she's cute and slim, reliable and communicative at least by text. My preference is black women so she's usually plan b or c but definitely worth checking out IMO.

LotharioPK
09-16-21, 13:56
Got a link to an ad so we all know which girl you're talking about?I'm betting he's curious about the "happy hippie" :

https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/detroit/67186982#.

https://sumosear.ch/phone/313-459-3331

I'm curious as well. What is up with all the interruptions in ads? Do the girls move around and delete their ads for cities they are not working? Makes it devilish difficult to check for history and accumulate reviews. Maybe that's the point?

OaklandT309
09-16-21, 14:18
I'm betting he's curious about the "happy hippie" :

https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/detroit/67186982#.

https://sumosear.ch/phone/313-459-3331

I'm curious as well. What is up with all the interruptions in ads? Do the girls move around and delete their ads for cities they are not working? Makes it devilish difficult to check for history and accumulate reviews. Maybe that's the point?Maybe, but maybe they don't realize it's shooting themselves in the foot for guys like us who check out hinges out first.

And speaking of checking thinks out: the happy hippy? Not with a ten foot pole. If nothing else, all that hardware in her face is a major turn off for me.

Passenger
09-16-21, 15:20
How about a 60 YO white-bread suburban professional driving an Equinox? Would that raise any eyebrows? 🤔.


LOL! Not at all, I'm sure you blended right in.

You know, if you're going to go to areas like that, why not try the strip clubs, like Henry's or Bogart's? They're definitely not top tier accommodations and the booths are small but finding a 20 ish something to get a quick nut wouldn't be terribly difficult. Undoubtedly, OTC would be available.Probably a much safer mongering path for this cat. It's a controlled environment. The most that can usually be lost or wasted, is cash.

Strip clubs are still my favorite way to play of the four menu choices. Have been since I was 16.

Simpson1234
09-16-21, 17:14
I will tell you who not to see. Diva, Kyra, Mariah, Lilbaby, redhead. All known drug users and sometimes will rob you.

Chug A Lug
09-16-21, 17:29
Thank you for all your help boys and especially the "caveat emtor" comment via PM. So true. Still hoping someone will throw me a BONE. Macomb County, but beggars can't be.


She was recently reviewed here as a "meh" provider in a very sketchy neighborhood. FWIW.


Just a heads up, I've been trying to get in contact with her for over a month, with a fellow senior mongers permission to use his name as a reference and crickets. Referring to Lothario's post, looking like it's not worth the time. Hopefully some seniors may chime in on some currently reputable providers on the East side, as I have nothing to give you at this time. Good luck and Remain safe.


She's a decent provider. Cute little spinner with no tattoos which is a nice change. She's pretty enthusiastic and is open to a lot but Greek is off the table. BBBJ, FIV, CFS.

I've seen 3 or 4 times but last time I got there and she gave me the My sister just showed up bullshit. Asked me to drive around the block a couple times. After 20 minutes of this I left. She texted later and asked me to come back but I had moved on. That said I'll see her again.

I don't know if I'd call the neighborhood sketchy but things have changed A LOT in 30 years but if you're comfortable cruising those areas where you're from then it probably won't be a problem. I'm fine going there. Doesn't bother me at all.


I've seen her three or four times and other than the communication issue, she speaks very softly and I can't hear shit, they've all been very positive experiences. The neighborhood is not that bad and as far as finding her house she gives you the address. I asked her about anal and she does it sometimes depending on size, mine fit. Twice were just for bbj with swallow which was good. Good pretty much describes her, nothing special but good. She's nice, neighborhood is ok, she's cute and slim, reliable and communicative at least by text. My preference is black women so she's usually plan b or c but definitely worth checking out IMO.Still have you "covered or not" (lmao) if ever in Orlando.

DannyWilson216
09-16-21, 17:32
I recommend Abby if you live near the Macomb\ Shelby area. Great girl, the girl in the photos. And an amazing full body rub. Kinda fuckin pricy for the time is the only complaint I got to add. But overall pretty decent. At first she was sketched out that I was a cop but after I verified I wasn't she got more comfortable. She also cut my session 5 minutes short which was quite annoying. She "had another client waiting".

This is her ad.

https://megapersonals.eu/public/post_detail/17279209Thank you for the 411 -.

Incognito1234
09-16-21, 18:02
Probably a much safer mongering path for this cat. It's a controlled environment. The most that can usually be lost or wasted, is cash.

Strip clubs are still my favorite way to play of the four menu choices. Have been since I was 16.Agreed. I'll even offer to be a tour guide for him.

Strip clubs are my favorite way to play too. Quite honestly, I like the selection process and the seediness of them.

JoeyRamone
09-16-21, 19:26
I recommend Abby if you live near the Macomb\ Shelby area. Great girl, the girl in the photos. And an amazing full body rub. Kinda fuckin pricy for the time is the only complaint I got to add. But overall pretty decent. At first she was sketched out that I was a cop but after I verified I wasn't she got more comfortable. She also cut my session 5 minutes short which was quite annoying. She "had another client waiting".

This is her ad.

https://megapersonals.eu/public/post_detail/17279209Can you be more specific? Was it just a rub? Or rub and tug or BJ or FS? Damage?

Reports on her are that it's just a massage and nothing else. And she doesn't even get naked.

If that's all it is you should probably say so and probably be posting this in the massage forum.

JoeyRamone
09-16-21, 19:38
Thank you for all your help boys and especially the "caveat emtor" comment via PM. So true. Still hoping someone will throw me a BONE. Macomb County, but beggars can't be.







Still have you "covered or not" (lmao) if ever in Orlando.Macomb is dry a hell these days but there's a few out there.

Amber. She'll do in a pinch. She's got saggy tits and WILL NOT SHUT UP. But she's cool enough. BBBJ, CFS.

https://detroit.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/amberalertenter-yourwn-risk/711644050573

Mandie. I haven't seen her and it's crazy hard to get ahold of her.

https://detroit.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/ultimate-gfe-that-slow-kinda-s/562052891645

Not Macomb but Pontiac. Nice body but kind of a busted face. BBBJ, CFS, said Greek was available for extra.

https://detroit.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/9you-will-not-leave-unsatisfie/766847159870

OaklandT309
09-17-21, 09:06
https://callescort.org/313-356-2728

She's near the airport. Or not. We'd set it up the day before and she said she'd be there. When I contacted her she said she wasn't, but was on her way. Then she was going to Canton instead. Great, I happen to be in Canton that afternoon. She asked where. I told her and after several minutes she said she was on her way to the airport anyway. Smh.

Well, I figured she had a room there and as I'd already assumed I'd meet her there, NP. So, what hotel? She named one. Then No, another next to it. Then she asked me to get the room and my hour would only be 100. Ok, sounds like a good deal. Hotel was sold out. But where was she? Down the road at McD. Smh.

Fine, I go pick her up. First thing I really noticed was the bruises on her legs. I proceeded against my better judgment because she hot, and agreed to all my requests and actually had been responding to texts over a couple days.

We end up driving back to Canton in rush hour traffic. At least it's in my general direction home. Smh.

I get a room. We go in. I'm nervous. She's nervous. So we talk. Nice enough girl. Coherent despite her sweet tooth for candy. Talk, talk, talk. Damn, she's had a bad life; I'm talking torture. So after an hour of talking we're both chilling and feeling more comfortable. Looking good. She gets a couple calls and always says "I'm with a client. " More calls, and now texts, and less talking between us. Even more calls and now she's worried about her kids; or whose taking care of them. Whatever. Now she's placing calls and texting. "Just one more call" she says. Sigh.

I go the bathroom. Then I hear the door slam. She ran out. With the room key-cards I'd left on the counter. She's gone. I'm out $90 for a room and 3 hrs of my time. No sex, and she's got a room for the night.

On the plus-side she didn't rifle through my pants (which I'd stripped out of when we got to the room) and steal the donation that was in one pocket, or my car keys. So the best I can say is she's not a thief.

I texted her "WTF, you ran? And took the room key. Wow!" She replied it was an anxiety-induced "Instinct was to leave. " Then she says the "next session on me. Let me know when and where and I'll make it happen. " Well, it's been a while and she doesn't respond to me anymore.

So, to her I say this: Sorry hun, I'd have loved to give you a good review. I gave you several opportunities to make it right, but I cannot in good conscience recommend anyone so unprofessional and unstable that your anxiety would send you running without a word. You could tell I wasn't going to beat you up or anything. You could have told me you had an emergency. I doubt you went through all that for a motel room because of course I'd have let you keep the room, and paid you another 100. So my conclusion is your anxiety makes you too unreliable that you could freak, or run, or who-knows-what at any random moment.

And finally, anyone reading who still cares: she's a nice enough girl to talk to. She looks like her pics but slightly rougher. Slightly. Still very beautiful. Lots of bruises from YKW. Lots of anxiety from her past. No clue about her skills or services.

OaklandT309
09-17-21, 09:35
Macomb is dry a hell these days but there's a few out there.

Amber. She'll do in a pinch. She's got saggy tits and WILL NOT SHUT UP. But she's cool enough. BBBJ, CFS.

https://detroit.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/amberalertenter-yourwn-risk/711644050573

Mandie. I haven't seen her and it's crazy hard to get ahold of her.

https://detroit.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/ultimate-gfe-that-slow-kinda-s/562052891645

Not Macomb but Pontiac. Nice body but kind of a busted face. BBBJ, CFS, said Greek was available for extra.

https://detroit.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/9you-will-not-leave-unsatisfie/766847159870I had to laugh about that Amber "will not shut up" LOL. I guess I'm not surprised about the saggy tits, she looks older than average. Probably had a kid or two.

I've hit up Mandie a couple times. No response either.

The last, is that Erica or Alexis? Whatever. Her pics look nice. What do you busted face? Did someone beat her up or is she actually missing teeth and looking extra worn from her years and habits?

And while I'm asking about the Pontiac girls; I keep hearing about The House. That it's trashed. I know giving addresses here is a no-no. Can you give major cross streets? I'm curious about the neighborhood. Pontiac has some bad, and not-so-bad areas. Pontiac providers are tempting just because it's so close to me.

JoeyRamone
09-17-21, 12:22
I had to laugh about that Amber "will not shut up" LOL. I guess I'm not surprised about the saggy tits, she looks older than average. Probably had a kid or two.

I've hit up Mandie a couple times. No response either.

The last, is that Erica or Alexis? Whatever. Her pics look nice. What do you busted face? Did someone beat her up or is she actually missing teeth and looking extra worn from her years and habits?

And while I'm asking about the Pontiac girls; I keep hearing about The House. That it's trashed. I know giving addresses here is a no-no. Can you give major cross streets? I'm curious about the neighborhood. Pontiac has some bad, and not-so-bad areas. Pontiac providers are tempting just because it's so close to me.That's Alexis in the link but Erica was there in her room. By busted I mean not so great. Should have said butter face. Nice body, but her face. It's strictly subjective and personal taste.

She said it's a new house that they were down the street or some shit. I don't know, I wasn't really listening. It's off 59 right when the speed limit drops down to 35 going west.

FunNights69
09-17-21, 12:48
Thought I remembered a positive review of her so I drove out to see her in Waterford.

As soon as I opened the door I almost choked on the smokiness. Do not go see if you have to go back to a wife. She was also high as a kite to the point where she walked like she had a broken back. Did manage to do an unenthusiastic BBBJ that got the deed done.

This may sound weird but she also had distractingly gigantic swollen looking hands. Not sure what's up with that.

Absolutely would not repeat.

https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/michigan/detroit/67212325

JoeyRamone
09-17-21, 12:59
Thought I remembered a positive review of her so I drove out to see her in Waterford.

As soon as I opened the door I almost choked on the smokiness. Do not go see if you have to go back to a wife. She was also high as a kite to the point where she walked like she had a broken back. Did manage to do an unenthusiastic BBBJ that got the deed done.

This may sound weird but she also had distractingly gigantic swollen looking hands. Not sure what's up with that.

Absolutely would not repeat.

https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/michigan/detroit/67212325The swollen hands are from shooting dope. Circulation gets bad from the dope burning out the valves in the veins.

Drews4
09-17-21, 16:29
Is mega personals ligit? Almost seems to go to be true!

OaklandT309
09-17-21, 16:47
That's Alexis in the link but Erica was there in her room. By busted I mean not so great. Should have said butter face. Nice body, but her face. It's strictly subjective and personal taste.

She said it's a new house that they were down the street or some shit. I don't know, I wasn't really listening. It's off 59 right when the speed limit drops down to 35 going west.Gotcha. I go thru that way often enough. Extra close to me. Do you know the respective girls donation rates?

OaklandT309
09-17-21, 18:46
Is mega personals ligit? Almost seems to go to be true!About as legit as the others. I see a lot of the same girls on other sites.

NotASexAddict2
09-17-21, 18:48
I had to laugh about that Amber "will not shut up" LOL. I guess I'm not surprised about the saggy tits, she looks older than average. Probably had a kid or two.It's the truth, though. Great person and will offer good conversation, but once you've had enough. Too bad.

OaklandT309
09-17-21, 18:49
Did why'all know The Erotic Review WILL NOT let you use a link to LC to show a provider ad for any review you write? They seems to consider LC too unreliable. I wish I'd thought about it and copied the verbiage they used to say LC is crap. The link I put for a Callescort ad was okay with TER.

DownRiverRat
09-17-21, 19:09
Have had some fun with Her A few times and the last 3-4 weeks. Always top notch & never dissapoints.

EdHemlock
09-17-21, 19:29
Have had some fun with Her A few times and the last 3-4 weeks. Always top notch & never dissapoints.Do you have a current ad for her? Hers seems to bounce around numbers.

OaklandT309
09-17-21, 20:12
Have had some fun with Her A few times and the last 3-4 weeks. Always top notch & never dissapoints.Link please?

RedMan82
09-17-21, 21:58
Link please?https://detroit.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/specials/675633014641

Here is her ad from today.

OaklandT309
09-17-21, 22:36
https://detroit.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/specials/675633014641

Here is her ad from today.Any idea what her Customer Appreciation specials are? LOL.

OaklandT309
09-17-21, 22:47
Gotcha. I go thru that way often enough. Extra close to me. Do you know the respective girls donation rates?Granted, the upside down pic looks less than flattering, but if the others are accurate I've seen a lot worse in links guys post here saying they look hot, and ads posted on the site every day.

Are these accurate? https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/sexy-sweet-skilled-new-in-town-come-see-me-duo-specials/36660118.

SenorVac
09-18-21, 00:23
I tried looking up the canada / international sex guide but it doesn't seem like it's as active us this forum. Thinking of taking a trip to windsor which is pretty close to the US / Canada border. Is there another site I should check out for reviews so I don't waste my time trying to find a good escort?

LotharioPK
09-18-21, 02:17
I tried looking up the canada / international sex guide but it doesn't seem like it's as active us this forum. Thinking of taking a trip to windsor which is pretty close to the US / Canada border. Is there another site I should check out for reviews so I don't waste my time trying to find a good escort?You'd better check the latest info first. The border to Canada has been closed for 18+ months to all but "essential workers" and freight. It's too bad, because a long time ago (1980's) all the best fully nude strip clubs in the Detroit area were actually in Windsor. And to this day, as long as the provider is registered, prostitution is not against the law in Canada.

Damned 'VID!

LotharioPK
09-18-21, 02:25
Agreed. I'll even offer to be a tour guide for him.

Strip clubs are my favorite way to play too. Quite honestly, I like the selection process and the seediness of them.I may just take you up on that some day Incognito.

MichCanuck
09-18-21, 02:38
I tried looking up the canada / international sex guide but it doesn't seem like it's as active us this forum. Thinking of taking a trip to windsor which is pretty close to the US / Canada border. Is there another site I should check out for reviews so I don't waste my time trying to find a good escort?LEO list is where all the Canadian providers post. You would have to use a VPN to access the site. You can also catch the Canadian towers from belle isle or downtown. You also have to be vaccinated and have a negative results within the past 72 hours. All counties offer free test sites. The border guards are very nice and would accept results on your phone as well. To streamline the process even faster, you could upload the docs on ArriveCan app. This is a worry free hobby and you will see the provider as ease as well.

Sparkeyman
09-18-21, 02:58
You'd better check the latest info first. The border to Canada has been closed for 18+ months to all but "essential workers" and freight. It's too bad, because a long time ago (1980's) all the best fully nude strip clubs in the Detroit area were actually in Windsor. And to this day, as long as the provider is registered, prostitution is not against the law in Canada.

Damned 'VID!They didn't call it the Windsor Ballet for nothing. Back then I preferred much seedier places like the Dizzy Duck. No alcohol but much fun to be had.

WillyMatt123
09-18-21, 05:59
I had to laugh about that Amber "will not shut up" LOL. I guess I'm not surprised about the saggy tits, she looks older than average. Probably had a kid or two.

I've hit up Mandie a couple times. No response either.

The last, is that Erica or Alexis? Whatever. Her pics look nice. What do you busted face? Did someone beat her up or is she actually missing teeth and looking extra worn from her years and habits?

And while I'm asking about the Pontiac girls; I keep hearing about The House. That it's trashed. I know giving addresses here is a no-no. Can you give major cross streets? I'm curious about the neighborhood. Pontiac has some bad, and not-so-bad areas. Pontiac providers are tempting just because it's so close to me.I don't think the term "saggy" is enough. Think of tube socks with a golf ball in them. LOL.

Carousing71
09-18-21, 07:32
Is mega personals ligit? Almost seems to go to be true!Virtually identical to EB / LC.

Carousing71
09-18-21, 07:45
Post a review on The Erotic Review. You'll get 15 days of free VIP for a review. But don't be quite so explicit about the drugs. Instead say it in code like "She really likes her candy" or "She kept gong into the bathroom to do more YKW. " or "Her teeth were rotted-out from YKW" or "Marks and bruises all over her arms and legs. We all know what that means. " I had a review there that was unapproved for saying a girl was smoking crack. When I changed to 'code" it was approved.A few years back I was banned from EB / LC for posting that a provider ghosted me.

OaklandT309
09-18-21, 08:07
A few years back I was banned from EB / LC for posting that a provider ghosted me.Maybe that's one of the reasons TER will not allow you to use a link to EB / LC in the filed for a provider's ad link. Perhaps they don't want their users to get a skewed impression of a girl based on the propensity for fake reviews?

That's kind of why I check multiple sources and ask questions about them here. Sure everyone had different tastes and standards but I haven't seen blatant night and day feedback on any girl discussed here except for Layna in AA, but that was due solely to her recent, sudden slide into drug oblivion; which itself is valuable info.

IOWs, this forum is a gold mine.

OaklandT309
09-18-21, 08:09
I don't think the term "saggy" is enough. Think of tube socks with a golf ball in them. LOL.Yikes! I wonder if she had a boob job that went bad and had to have them removed?

OaklandT309
09-18-21, 08:14
I may just take you up on that some day Incognito.Maybe you should organize a field trip, LOL The kink community has "munches" where they all get together. Why not a pussy hunt at a strip club for hobbyist to meet and greet, shoot the shit, and compare the girls in real time?

OaklandT309
09-18-21, 08:16
You'd better check the latest info first. The border to Canada has been closed for 18+ months to all but "essential workers" and freight. It's too bad, because a long time ago (1980's) all the best fully nude strip clubs in the Detroit area were actually in Windsor. And to this day, as long as the provider is registered, prostitution is not against the law in Canada.

Damned 'VID!Unless there's been another change, I thought the border to Canada was now open if you had a proof of vaccination.

TeeTime69
09-18-21, 08:56
Unless there's been another change, I thought the border to Canada was now open if you had a proof of vaccination.You must be prepared to quarantine for 14 days, even if you are fully vaccinated, in case you:

Are symptomatic.

Don't meet the requirements for the fully vaccinated traveller exemption.

A suitable quarantine plan, which includes a place you will quarantine, must be entered into ArriveCAN in case you don't qualify for the exemption. You may be asked to explain your quarantine plan at the border.

FunnyBoner
09-18-21, 09:11
Virtually identical to EB / LC.I thought LC was just a Scraper. The girls do not post on LC, they post on mega personals. LC, EB and Sumosearch are scrapers that just repeat the listings in a different format. LC allows sorting and searching of the listings (MILFS, YOLO, 80 etc....). EB seems just a little more than a scraper as it allows for reviews. And Sumosearch scrapes more than just MP as I think it also includes Skip.

At least that's how I understand it. But nothing compares to this site.