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Leon3798
03-29-21, 09:37
All Ya'll mongers need to stop paying anything more than 60 $ for a QV. Some will doit for 40 $. Its ya'll that's bringing the rates up so much because these girls with GPS think they can get it.Yea if you want a street walker. If you want a premium escort you need to pay premium prices. I know ladies that would laugh at this. Laugh HARD. Some of you guys blow my mind. You expect extremely attractive and put together women to give you what you want for next to nothing. And we wonder why Raleigh is drying up. This is exactly why. SMH.

TreyDub
03-29-21, 09:40
I've done some FS before the baby and was lucky enough to get a double with her and KJ. I've inquired directly about no FS and she claimed a medical reason. Last time I saw her, it seemed money was becoming a bigger issue so I thought (hoped) that might open up the menu, but that was January and so far nothing had changed except every now and then she runs a special on her videos (if anyone has bought them please let me know what you think of them.).Videos are whack save your money.

Ignoramus
03-29-21, 09:58
SO glad I didn't see her! She was very nice and positive on our texts, until I made a special request and them silence. Glad I insisted on my needs and avoided what would have been a beyond bad time.


I have been meaning to create a post about her for a while now and just kept forgetting to do so. I have seen her twice and she was using a different name than Barbie. First time I met her was off Glenwood. She asked me to let her know when I was about 5-10 minutes out and I did. Only to get there have wait another 15 minutes in the car. Finally make it in the room for a HH appt and she uses part of that time to take a 5 minute shower after asking me to get comfortable. Yeah, I was still clothed when she came out the shower wrapped in a towel. I finally got undressed and the session started. Maybe I was catching her fairly new to the game on my first visit because the BJ was pretty damn good and the kitty nice & tight. Went into mish and flipped over to doggy, where I asked for more BJ before starting doggy. She was more than willing to do so and then I finished in doggy. She was a very pretty girl and just the size I like. Got her number so I could see her again and walked past her two pimps sitting on the stairs when I walked out. Same as in this post, the time was around 3 am or so.

Fast forward a couple of months and I see she is in Garner. Call her up to meet, she is available and I make that long ass drive out to the Garner / Clayton area. Sit in the parking lot for 20 minutes with her constantly texting me that she is coming out to get me. Finally say eff it and when I drive out of the parking lot, I see a car pulling in and could have sworn she was in the passenger seat. Could have simply said she wasn't at the hotel but was on the way, but no. She texts me asking where I am and told her she effed up taking so long and I was driving back to Raleigh.

Third and final time, so she was in Raleigh near New Bern. Send her a text and she says she is available and at her house, giving me the address. I opted for a car visit this time. I get there and again ended up waiting about 20 minutes with every excuse in the book. First one being she needed to find her jacket (yes it was cold outside). Then next text was, I am coming out in 1 minute putting my shoes on. Several more texts promising she was coming out. Yes, my little head was doing much of the thinking otherwise I would have left and not waited. Finally told her if she wasn't outside within the next minute I was going to leave. She comes out and we drive to a spot for the fun. About to get undressed when she tells me what her rates are now. Mind you, she had already told me in text what her rates were the first time and my attempted 2nd time seeing her. Now she wanted to almost double the rates for a QV to 140where it was 70-80 before. Allegedly it was because she needed to get a room. Told her she had lost her damn mind and started getting back in the front seat when she relented and said 80.

Steeler1980
03-29-21, 09:59
Yea if you want a street walker. If you want a premium escort you need to pay premium prices. I know ladies that would laugh at this. Laugh HARD. Some of you guys blow my mind. You expect extremely attractive and put together women to give you what you want for next to nothing. And we wonder why Raleigh is drying up. This is exactly why. SMH.I have to second this. If you want attractive, quality providers; you're going to pay more. That's the way it goes. The attractive girls are either charging more because they know they are in a different league than the SWs or they are giving it up for free to guys their own age who look better than 90% of us out there trying to pay for it. Money talks.

Ignoramus
03-29-21, 10:04
Leon,

I love your posts and reports, but I will have to respectfully disagree. The only correlation to higher prices I see is with age. Just like my side-job landscaper, who I had to fire recently. The quality of his work went down, and he kept asking for MORE money. I told him the only thing that has changed in the last 5 years is that your commitments and needs have gone up, and hey, believe me, I know all about that at my age!. When he blew up into a red-faced rage and left without saying a word, I knew I was right. It's the same with these girls; why do you think you see so many 30's and 40's women trying to get a grand for 2 hours? They have more bills! Even if they don't have more bills, and are just trying to get another hit, 60 isn't as satisfying when you were getting 60 for the same thing 10 years ago. Why do you think I stick with under-25 as often as possible? Better body, better pussy, more impact for the money!

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Yea if you want a street walker. If you want a premium escort you need to pay premium prices. I know ladies that would laugh at this. Laugh HARD. Some of you guys blow my mind. You expect extremely attractive and put together women to give you what you want for next to nothing. And we wonder why Raleigh is drying up. This is exactly why. SMH..

Coxter8
03-29-21, 10:16
Yea if you want a street walker. If you want a premium escort you need to pay premium prices. I know ladies that would laugh at this. Laugh HARD. Some of you guys blow my mind. You expect extremely attractive and put together women to give you what you want for next to nothing. And we wonder why Raleigh is drying up. This is exactly why. SMH.Spot on! You pay for quality. The overall effect of refusing to pay anything but streetwalker prices is you end up with nothing but streetwalker quality, and a downward spiral overall in the quality of the women in the game. It's almost too late here in central NC. We had a lot better environment back 15,20, and 30 years ago. There are only a handful of decent women left, and most of them got their start a long time ago when the cheapskate mentality wasn't the norm. They could rely on meeting with generally decent guys and make decent money. Today? Not so much with making a decent living. And what is happening as a result? Fewer quality women are getting into the business. The downward spiral is accelerating. I think I'll go back and read older reviews from T e Review and I know it'll be rare indeed to find any where the hobbiest wrote about the woman's drug issues. But insisting on paying $40 or $60 at best has damn near ruined the hobby and drugs are far too common. So I'll continue to pay for premium escort quality.

Leon3798
03-29-21, 13:48
Leon,

I love your posts and reports, but I will have to respectfully disagree. The only correlation to higher prices I see is with age. Just like my side-job landscaper, who I had to fire recently. The quality of his work went down, and he kept asking for MORE money. I told him the only thing that has changed in the last 5 years is that your commitments and needs have gone up, and hey, believe me, I know all about that at my age!. When he blew up into a red-faced rage and left without saying a word, I knew I was right. It's the same with these girls; why do you think you see so many 30's and 40's women trying to get a grand for 2 hours? They have more bills! Even if they don't have more bills, and are just trying to get another hit, 60 isn't as satisfying when you were getting 60 for the same thing 10 years ago. Why do you think I stick with under-25 as often as possible? Better body, better pussy, more impact for the money!

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.But those young 25 year olds should not accept 60 measly dollars for a QV. Thats pure garbage. And no provider is going to stay in in an area that consistently low balls them. I remember seeing elite providers posting in this area frequently and that has gone down DRASTICALLY lately. And that's because nobody wants to offer them what they're asking. So why stay when they can go elsewhere to get their desired donation? And who are we to 'gate keep' what we think is fair?? If I'm a blazing hot 25 year old and you want a QV for 60 bucks you can kiss my ass to be frank. There are top tier elites that charge 1 k an hour and they get it because they're awesome. 40 and 60 dollar QV's are not going to be available for any elite courtesan and most of them don't even offer QV's for that reason. Its not worth their time. Those are for lack of a better term, lower class girls. But guys here want the elite girls for 60 bucks then complain when they don't get it. Come on man. Thats not realistic it never has been. I don't even do QV's but I would never expect that low of a donation from any girl that's cute, no demons etc. And its silly to think that way in my opinion.

Leon3798
03-29-21, 13:53
I don't mind if you disagree with me. I won't be offended.

NeedSiteAccess
03-29-21, 15:26
But those young 25 year olds should not accept 60 measly dollars for a QV. Thats pure garbage. And no provider is going to stay in in an area that consistently low balls them. I remember seeing elite providers posting in this area frequently and that has gone down DRASTICALLY lately. And that's because nobody wants to offer them what they're asking. The man is right you know.

Never seen any provider charging $60 in this game for the past decade that was worth a damn. Breakeven on a decent hotel is two dudes per day at that rate, and to make it worth their while on take home its another four after at least. Never mind if they have a demon to feed. If you're getting plowed by 6 - 10 dudes per day, every day, then quality of services goes downhill. Its inevitable. If you're taking that much d, you aren't going to be able to shower after every session, get on makeup, have energy for the next monger, and manage the dozens of calls / hundreds of texts you get as an independent sex worker.

No thank you. I'll gladly pay $300/ hr for someone seeing just me or maybe one other for the day. Far more likely to enjoy the experience and it's worth the price tag for me.

If you're looking for pump and dump, that's fine. For some guys, that's all they want. But don't go to McDonald's expecting a three star meal. You can't order a double cheeseburger and expect foie gras and caviar.

Joe Looking
03-29-21, 15:33
Yea if you want a street walker. If you want a premium escort you need to pay premium prices. I know ladies that would laugh at this. Laugh HARD. Some of you guys blow my mind. You expect extremely attractive and put together women to give you what you want for next to nothing. And we wonder why Raleigh is drying up. This is exactly why. SMH.Realistically though once you filter through the fake ads then a lot of what is left would, without the internet, be street walkers or the chick you see in the store who's open to p4 p. Even on the nicer looking sites like eros it's hard to call most of the women high quality escorts. Many are older, some have limited services and some have pretty bad attitudes from years of guys simping. While I agree that 60 isn't going to get you a chick in her prime to let you pound away from an hour IMO it's about what most of the sex workers in the area deserver for a qv BJ. Realistically if you walk into a room where you're not comfortable taking your socks off then you shouldn't be paying $100+ for a qv and you definitely shouldn't be paying $300+ for the hour you won't be getting all of anyway.

IMO Raleigh is drying up because the drug and pimp trades aren't what they used to be. The 19 year old chick who would have 5 years ago been lured into being a traveling hooker is already getting guys to send her money for nudes and in some case nothing on sites like instagram. Even in major cities they're plagued with fake ads and over the hill sex workers charging too much. I can't for the life of me imagine what some chick can do to make herself worth 1000 per hour, there's defense attorneys repping serious charges that don't bill that per hour. Thanks to the internet that newly divorced chick also has no reason to enter prostitution because she has no shortage of guys in her town simping for her. I know a woman in her 40's who's had at least 10 guys she went to high school with, some of whom are married, all but propostion her for sex through facebook and I know she took at least 2 of them up on it. The avenues people for p4 p are just changing for areas like ours that were never really on the circuit for the top tier escorts anyway.

Pubb69
03-29-21, 18:11
I have to second this. If you want attractive, quality providers; you're going to pay more. That's the way it goes. The attractive girls are either charging more because they know they are in a different league than the SWs or they are giving it up for free to guys their own age who look better than 90% of us out there trying to pay for it. Money talks.These so called quality providers are not quality and yeah if you want to pay $60 than you are getting a low level street walker with all the risks involved, however when $300 to $400 now gets you an over the hill hooker that charged half that 5 years ago or some unenthusiastic over worked Latin American on Eros than someone else can have at it.

Now if you want to go up to the $5 to Thousand dollar level and still not have certainty of a high class solid GFE than you might as well declare yourself a desperate.

RedPill71
03-29-21, 19:39
Realistically though once you filter through the fake ads then a lot of what is left would, without the internet, be street walkers or the chick you see in the store who's open to p4 p. Even on the nicer looking sites like eros it's hard to call most of the women high quality escorts. Many are older, some have limited services and some have pretty bad attitudes from years of guys simping. While I agree that 60 isn't going to get you a chick in her prime to let you pound away from an hour IMO it's about what most of the sex workers in the area deserver for a qv BJ. Realistically if you walk into a room where you're not comfortable taking your socks off then you shouldn't be paying $100+ for a qv and you definitely shouldn't be paying $300+ for the hour you won't be getting all of anyway.

IMO Raleigh is drying up because the drug and pimp trades aren't what they used to be. The 19 year old chick who would have 5 years ago been lured into being a traveling hooker is already getting guys to send her money for nudes and in some case nothing on sites like instagram. Even in major cities they're plagued with fake ads and over the hill sex workers charging too much. I can't for the life of me imagine what some chick can do to make herself worth 1000 per hour, there's defense attorneys repping serious charges that don't bill that per hour. Thanks to the internet that newly divorced chick also has no reason to enter prostitution because she has no shortage of guys in her town simping for her. I know a woman in her 40's who's had at least 10 guys she went to high school with, some of whom are married, all but propostion her for sex through facebook and I know she took at least 2 of them up on it. The avenues people for p4 p are just changing for areas like ours that were never really on the circuit for the top tier escorts anyway.I agree with the extreme point of view that it's utterly ridiculous to expect to pay $60 for Elle McPherson to do things to you that a farm animal wouldn't do. And then to come on here and complain that you can't find that.

I agree also that $1 K per hour for companionship is simply you paying her student loan bills and buying her that first investment property, if she's good enough at marketing she will get that. And of course we all know these girls don't really want to bang us, so many of them charging that kind of money will accept 3 K-5 K per month tax free and they have to bang 1/8 the guys to get it. I can't personally blame them for going for it and I applaud the ones that achieve it.

I will say that the handful of ladies I've seen at 300/ hour have all said essentially the same thing. That number is an inflection point that weeds out virtually all of what I call "price shoppers". And it's still a pretty accessible number for what I call "value shoppers", who are looking for something more than just the physical aspect of companionship.

DMizzle26
03-29-21, 20:39
All Ya'll mongers need to stop paying anything more than 60 $ for a QV. Some will doit for 40 $. Its ya'll that's bringing the rates up so much because these girls with GPS think they can get it.OK I get your point JimzCatz but what girls are you seeing that's taking $40 for QV outside of Street walkers. Give us some links to these girls.

TheCommand
03-29-21, 21:15
Does anyone know if Bailey does anything uncovered. I just want to know because I don't want to take that chance. Not to insult or step on anyones toes, it's just precaution.

https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/bailey-escort-raleigh-46275#erotic.

NeedSiteAccess
03-29-21, 21:19
Does anyone know if Bailey does anything uncovered. I just want to know because I don't want to take that chance. Not to insult or step on anyones toes, it's just precaution.

https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/bailey-escort-raleigh-46275#erotic.There isn't an escort in this world that isn't doing something uncovered with someone bro. Could be all clients, could be regulars, could be people in their personal lives.

Member #6388
03-29-21, 22:27
I agree with the extreme point of view that it's utterly ridiculous to expect to pay $60 for Elle McPherson to do things to you that a farm animal wouldn't do. And then to come on here and complain that you can't find that.

I agree also that $1 K per hour for companionship is simply you paying her student loan bills and buying her that first investment property, if she's good enough at marketing she will get that. And of course we all know these girls don't really want to bang us, so many of them charging that kind of money will accept 3 K-5 K per month tax free and they have to bang 1/8 the guys to get it. I can't personally blame them for going for it and I applaud the ones that achieve it.

I will say that the handful of ladies I've seen at 300/ hour have all said essentially the same thing. That number is an inflection point that weeds out virtually all of what I call "price shoppers". And it's still a pretty accessible number for what I call "value shoppers", who are looking for something more than just the physical aspect of companionship.Oof, I jumped off for a weekend, and I get to come back to judicial debate--man this forum is something special.

As far as prices, I think most of us are in agreement that prices have been rising steadily for the past few months (if not longer). I think the original poster was talking about providers on EA and STG. No one was saying eros providers should charge 60 for a qv. I think everyone agrees that there are tiers of providers. You have the most expensive "courtesans" for the very wealthy, charging 600-thousands of dollars for the hour, but the wealthy pay it for discretion and education. Then you have the eros providers charging 300-600, and upper middle class guys pay it for looks and cleanliness--though I'm sure the average guy splurges on and eros provider too. Next, you've got the STG and them and EA providers that charge 200-300 for the hour, which service regular middle class guys. These providers typically have some of the following issues: demons, looks, education, cleanliness, safety. Finally, you've got the streetwalkers that charge 10-100 for the hour, and they service those just looking for a physical release because they suffer from ALL of the following issues: demons, looks, education, cleanliness, safety.

I saw a lot of poster arguing from different categories (courtesans vs average girls). In the specific category of STG, them, and EA providers, the qv's used to be 60 (after negotiation) for decent girls--I'm thinking taylorMade, Ashton, Stacey, Brittany, etc. Almost all of these providers have doubled their Qv rates. I don't think many people on this thread care about eros providers or "courtesans". There are other threads for those types of providers. Problem is all prices are going up where streewalkers are charging escort prices, escorts are charging eros prices, and eros girls are charging courtesan prices. I'm pretty sure all the guys that remember backpage can tell you prices are rising.

I was intrigued by the poster that said the reason is women are shifting their methods of communication from classified ads to facebook. I know a lot of dating apps have escorts messaging desperate guys with offers, so it might be that. Also, minimum wage is rising, jobs are paying more, which means girls are less likely to provide at lower prices when they can make decent money at a 9-5. Point is, prices ARE rising, due to a large number of factors, but I agree with original poster. If you can spend 200-300 regularly on a provider, go to eros instead of finding STG, them, EA girls and pricing other guys out, but everyone has their reasons.

Just hoping I could find some common ground.

Nick52
03-30-21, 00:11
Does anyone know if Bailey does anything uncovered. I just want to know because I don't want to take that chance. Not to insult or step on anyones toes, it's just precaution.

https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/bailey-escort-raleigh-46275#erotic.BBBJ (with cim) is the only thing that is uncover. Her BJ is top grade imo. Some reviews on the oth3 r site.

Nick52
03-30-21, 00:40
I have been meaning to create a post about her for a while now and just kept forgetting to do so. I have seen her twice and she was using a different name than Barbie. The first time I met her was off Glenwood. She asked me to let her know when I was about 5-10 minutes out and I did. Only to get there have to wait another 15 minutes in the car. Finally, make it in the room for a HH appt and she uses part of that time to take a 5 minute shower after asking me to get comfortable. Yeah, I was still clothed when she came out of the shower wrapped in a towel. I finally got undressed and the session started. Maybe I was catching her fairly new to the game on my first visit because the BJ was pretty damn good and the kitty nice & tight. Went into mish and flipped over to doggy, where I asked for more BJ before starting doggy. She was more than willing to do so and then I finished in doggy. She was a very pretty girl and just the size I like. Got her number so I could see her again and walked past her two pimps sitting on the stairs when I walked out. Same as in this post, the time was around 3 am or so.

Fast forward a couple of months and I see she is in Garner. Call her up to meet, she is available and I make that long ass drive out to the Garner / Clayton area. Sit in the parking lot for 20 minutes with her constantly texting me that she is coming out to get me. Finally say eff it and when I drive out of the parking lot, I see a car pulling in and could have sworn she was in the passenger seat. Could have simply said she wasn't at the hotel but was on the way, but no. She texts me asking where I am and told her she effed up taking so long and I was driving back to Raleigh.

The third and final time, so she was in Raleigh near New Bern. Send her a text and she says she is available and at her house, giving me the address. I opted for a car visit this time. I get there and again ended up waiting about 20 minutes with every excuse in the book. The first one being she needed to find her jacket (yes it was cold outside). The next text was, I am coming out in 1 minute putting my shoes on. Several more texts promising she was coming out. Yes, my little head was doing much of the thinking otherwise I would have left and not waited. Finally told her if she wasn't outside within the next minute I was going to leave. She comes out and we drive to a spot for the fun. About to get undressed when she tells me what her rates are now. Mind you, she had already told me in text what her rates were the first time and my attempted 2nd time seeing her. Now she wanted to almost double the rates for a QV to 140where it was 70-80 before. Allegedly it was because she needed to get a room. Told her she had lost her damn mind and started getting back in the front seat when she relented and said 80.

I had already wasted a lot of time dealing with her and was still horny as hell so I said ok to the 80. It was still a decent BJ and the kitty was nice but not as good as our first visit. Once we were done, I dropped her off and made a promise to myself that was the last time I would deal with her. This is sad to me, because as far as many of the other AA on some of these sites are concerned, she is one of the better looking ones and again the size I love.

Never again, though.Met her once, try to meet again a few months back.

The first time we met, I had to wait 40 minutes in my car (I had to handle some work-related task anyway) and 20 minutes in the room. Nothing but excuses though, but overall the deed was good.

The second time, drove from Raleigh to garner. She quoted 100 for a qv, of course, I brought that backdown. No qv is worth 100 honestly. I waited about 10 minutes on arrival and left. She kept texting me, and I was just playing along until I got home.

PenaltyKiller
03-30-21, 01:22
To add to this respectful debate, I mostly think we should base rates on our own individual criteria on what we look for in providers. Of my top 3 ATF providers, two of them charged $60 qv's and the other charged $80. The two that charged $60 are older providers (early-mid 40's), while the 3rd girl was early 20's. For me, I usually agree to see a girl based on appearance and location in that order. If I can find a girl that is close to me, and has a nice overall appearance, then I don't mind paying $100 for a qv. For example, Ashton and Ginger are probably the best examples I can use. Both of those girls generally stay at a place in close proximity to me, and they are both very beautiful girls with incredible bodies that are among the best looking out of all providers in the area. While we can debate on Ashton (I think she's a fantastic provider once you track her down), Ginger for sure provides top notch service, so. I don't mind paying $100 to see women of that caliber. And looking back at all of the women I've dealt with in the hobby in the last 7 years, most of the Ginger / Ashton-type girls have always asked for at least $80. There'd be occasions when they could be talked down, but those were outliers.

I did go through a stretch where it was $60 or bust. And more times than not, I was dealing with girls heavy in the demons, unsafe locations, etc. The only provider out of that time that I saw regularly was the initial Ginger. In general, I have been able to talk a lot of girls down to more reasonable prices, but at this point it's not worth it to me to go back in forth about prices. A lot of girls in this era often times take a long time to respond to text messages or setup a session. My time is valuable to me, and I don't want to be playing phone tag with a provider over a $20-30 difference in price.

We also have to look at the big picture here. Raleigh has become a premier metropolitan area thanks to all these countless articles about how great of a place this is. There are a lot more higher salary jobs in this area, so girls are going to push to charge more, and there's now more people in the area that can pay these prices without batting an eye. It's also worth noting that a lot quality girls say they charge less in Raleigh than they do in other markets. For example, Sami told me that she charges and makes way more when she works out of Charlotte. Also, a couple years ago this gorgeous European doll named Olivia came into town a few times. She told me she's lived in Vegas and Atlanta, and that she charges significantly less in the RTP area than she does in those other 2 cities.

Where I do draw the line is girls asking anything over $100 for a qv. The Cheyenne Rider chick told me a couple weeks ago she wanted!. 75 for a qv. Also, the portuguese Lexi charges 1. 50 for qv, and Ashley Rose charges 1. 2. I think this is absurd, and not sustainable.

I'm a streaky hobbyist overall. I'll go through streaks where I'll see multiple providers within a span of a couple weeks, but I could just as easily not see a provider for several months. And if none of my regulars respond, if I don't see someone who really grabs my attention, I will not engage anyone.

Sobe69
03-30-21, 09:00
Any intel on this one. She is our of Fayetteville but started posting in Raleigh. Price are high end.

https://raleigh.rubratings.com/204651

Ignoramus
03-30-21, 09:14
Just want to put things into perspective. I have been called cheap and wanting to fuck street hookers for $60 by some. There is a girl on the bb forum who has been lauded as a great time by some with these opinions. I have had that same girl for 80 BBFS CIP, and I found her dirty and unkempt. So please excuse me (not being sarcastic, being serious) for feeling confused as to how paying 60 makes one a street-hooker-looker, with apparent bad taste, but who actually found that girl to be one rung above street hooker level, for which 80 was paid (based on glowing recommendations! And for me, 60/80 same thing, Pubb said below what my exact scale is, which is 60/80/100 QV depending on the girl, and Pubb is spot-on).

I do not take offense for being called out for being "cheap, dirty" etc, I simply put this here to put things in perspective. One man's supermodel is another man's street urchin. And apparently, vice-versa. I just want to help put all these posts that I apparently helped spur into perspective. And in sum, I think it's clear a very good time can be had for anywhere from 60-100 any week.

P.S: Have been playing the SD game on some of the sites. These are the types of girls I dated in college and in my 20's. They were way too much trouble then, and they are way too much trouble now, the only difference is that there is no way in hell the same kind of girls I put up with in my younger days are suddenly GPS-laden multi-fuckers worth $300-$1000. I had enough of these types then, and with all their issues and high-maintenance expectations now, why the fuck would I pay top dollar for that? I literally told one of them she had way too many rules, needs and phobias for what should be a simple, weekly meet-up-and-fuck session. Do you see now why I prefer the 60 (to 100) girls? I don't have the time or space to put up with anything else. Let me get off and go.


The man is right you know.

Never seen any provider charging $60 in this game for the past decade that was worth a damn. Breakeven on a decent hotel is two dudes per day at that rate, and to make it worth their while on take home its another four after at least. Never mind if they have a demon to feed. If you're getting plowed by 6 - 10 dudes per day, every day, then quality of services goes downhill. Its inevitable. If you're taking that much d, you aren't going to be able to shower after every session, get on makeup, have energy for the next monger, and manage the dozens of calls / hundreds of texts you get as an independent sex worker.

No thank you. I'll gladly pay $300/ hr for someone seeing just me or maybe one other for the day. Far more likely to enjoy the experience and it's worth the price tag for me.

If you're looking for pump and dump, that's fine. For some guys, that's all they want. But don't go to McDonald's expecting a three star meal. You can't order a double cheeseburger and expect foie gras and caviar.

LykeDawg81
03-30-21, 09:53
Met her once, try to meet again a few months back.

The first time we met, I had to wait 40 minutes in my car (I had to handle some work-related task anyway) and 20 minutes in the room. Nothing but excuses though, but overall the deed was good.

The second time, drove from Raleigh to garner. She quoted 100 for a qv, of course, I brought that backdown. No qv is worth 100 honestly. I waited about 10 minutes on arrival and left. She kept texting me, and I was just playing along until I got home.Well my friend you Dodge a bullet because if you back down the price from 100 to 70 qv she will give you mediocre CBJ while fully clothed for about 5 minutes. And I agree.

WpbDude
03-30-21, 10:30
ELM 3/26 Who that?Can you provide a link to ELM?

Triangle7
03-30-21, 14:01
I saw this particular provider about 3 times before Covid happened. https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/need-a-real-fantasy-to-come-tr/190337154627 Each time I had a very good visit with her. She was very nice, clean, fairly attractive, no sign of demons, and was not a clock watcher. The only thing I thought was a little strange was that on a couple visits as soon as I got into the room she said that she had to go check on her "disabled brother" who was allegedly in another room. I thought it strange that she had to check just as soon as I arrived and not before. I assumed it was actually a handler or boyfriend she was reporting to but it was never a problem, she always came back right away. Anyway, I responded to her most recent post where she states that she is only doing out-calls at the moment and set up an outcall last night. I rented a decent hotel room because I never bring a girl to my home. Once she gets there and we engage in a little small-talk, she says she's hungry and wanted to go get something from the hotel snack store located behind the check-in clerk's desk. My guard was down because we had seen each other a few times before and I wasn't expecting a cash-and-dash. Well, you can guess the rest of the story. She had my cash in hand and never came back to the room. Lesson learned. Hopefully, I can prevent just one person from being scammed by her and her boyfriend / handler. She comes off as being very sweet, and if you like her body-type her pics aren't bad either, but don't let it suck you in. I learned the hard way. Never let your guard down even if you have had good experiences in the past with some girls.

ClerksFan72
03-30-21, 15:20
You guys down here don't know how lucky you have it. I just moved down from the Jersey Shore a cpl months ago, and the selection down here is a pool of fish compared to there. Sure, you have to weed through a lot of scams and bullshit, but at least there are options. Look at this board. Escorts, bareback ratings, massage ratings, blowjob ratings. Back there I was lucky to fins anything on a good day that I didn't have to drive 45 min to see, and had to be happy to pay stupid fees sometimes because it was either that or sit home and jerk off. I'm not trying to knock anyone for shopping around for the best price, looks and service. As I now do the same. But just know that it could always be worse. Be happy that you have all the options that we have down here. Happy Mongering and stay safe!

Roland 323
03-30-21, 15:39
To add to this respectful debate, I mostly think we should base rates on our own individual criteria on what we look for in providers. Of my top 3 ATF providers, two of them charged $60 qv's and the other charged $80. The two that charged $60 are older providers (early-mid 40's), while the 3rd girl was early 20's. For me, I usually agree to see a girl based on appearance and location in that order. If I can find a girl that is close to me, and has a nice overall appearance, then I don't mind paying $100 for a qv. For example, Ashton and Ginger are probably the best examples I can use. Both of those girls generally stay at a place in close proximity to me, and they are both very beautiful girls with incredible bodies that are among the best looking out of all providers in the area. While we can debate on Ashton (I think she's a fantastic provider once you track her down), Ginger for sure provides top notch service, so. I don't mind paying $100 to see women of that caliber. And looking back at all of the women I've dealt with in the hobby in the last 7 years, most of the Ginger / Ashton-type girls have always asked for at least $80. There'd be occasions when they could be talked down, but those were outliers.I definitely agree with this. To each his own, but the times that I've thought afterwards that it just wasn't worth it have always been decisions based solely on price.

Ignoramus
03-30-21, 17:19
Man, that is really fucked up and sad on more than one level. It goes back to what was posted about maybe a page or 2 back, never get feelings and never think you are "friends. " I have to catch myself falling into that trap on occasion over the past years, including one recently. It also backs up my point (she was charging like 100 for incall, what was she charging for out?) that even well-reviewed girls are worth no more than 60-100 on the best day. I am guessing you paid 150 ish for outcall? Then the hotel, then you get scammed. If you stick with the 60-100 rule, even if you have a less than 5-star time, you won't miss your money, and when it inevitably gets stolen, 60 is a lot less painful than 200+.


I saw this particular provider about 3 times before Covid happened. https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/need-a-real-fantasy-to-come-tr/190337154627 Each time I had a very good visit with her. She was very nice, clean, fairly attractive, no sign of demons, and was not a clock watcher. The only thing I thought was a little strange was that on a couple visits as soon as I got into the room she said that she had to go check on her "disabled brother" who was allegedly in another room. I thought it strange that she had to check just as soon as I arrived and not before. I assumed it was actually a handler or boyfriend she was reporting to but it was never a problem, she always came back right away. Anyway, I responded to her most recent post where she states that she is only doing out-calls at the moment and set up an outcall last night. I rented a decent hotel room because I never bring a girl to my home. Once she gets there and we engage in a little small-talk, she says she's hungry and wanted to go get something from the hotel snack store located behind the check-in clerk's desk. My guard was down because we had seen each other a few times before and I wasn't expecting a cash-and-dash. Well, you can guess the rest of the story. She had my cash in hand and never came back to the room. Lesson learned. Hopefully, I can prevent just one person from being scammed by her and her boyfriend / handler. She comes off as being very sweet, and if you like her body-type her pics aren't bad either, but don't let it suck you in. I learned the hard way. Never let your guard down even if you have had good experiences in the past with some girls.

Shadows1517
03-30-21, 17:23
Does anyone know if Bailey does anything uncovered. I just want to know because I don't want to take that chance. Not to insult or step on anyones toes, it's just precaution.

https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/bailey-escort-raleigh-46275#erotic.Been with Bailey a couple times. She has (imo) the hottest all natural body for a woman her age and with the length of time she, been in the business. She started way back as a dancer, with at least some time on the stage at Foxy Lady. Eve covered, her BJ is quite good. Great enthusiasm and pays attention to the boys and licks from base to tip and back. Have to admit that BJ is not my favorite with her though. She can ride, K9 and mish with the best. Mish with her legs wrapped around pulling me in rhythm is a great feeling and she truly seems to like a good fucking!

I know she stays out in the country, but I dug deep and had her come to me. YMMV, but I highly recommend. Bareback or not.

Shadows1517
03-30-21, 17:35
https://callescort.org/910-876-8769

Cute girl, awesome ass, pics are hot butt up & ready. I texted and she wanted me to join a website that needs a credit card ("but they don't ever charge you", she said) for verification for "her safety". I told her I don't join other sites to prove I'm real. She texted back "wish you trust me". Yeah. No. Anyone have real knowledge of her? Her ass is so inviting, and she advertises on several sites.

Thanks why'll! Be safe.

Leon3798
03-30-21, 18:35
Just want to put things into perspective. I have been called cheap and wanting to fuck street hookers for $60 by some. There is a girl on the bb forum who has been lauded as a great time by some with these opinions. I have had that same girl for 80 BBFS CIP, and I found her dirty and unkempt. So please excuse me (not being sarcastic, being serious) for feeling confused as to how paying 60 makes one a street-hooker-looker, with apparent bad taste, but who actually found that girl to be one rung above street hooker level, for which 80 was paid (based on glowing recommendations! And for me, 60/80 same thing, Pubb said below what my exact scale is, which is 60/80/100 QV depending on the girl, and Pubb is spot-on).

I do not take offense for being called out for being "cheap, dirty" etc, I simply put this here to put things in perspective. One man's supermodel is another man's street urchin. And apparently, vice-versa. I just want to help put all these posts that I apparently helped spur into perspective. And in sum, I think it's clear a very good time can be had for anywhere from 60-100 any week.

P.S: Have been playing the SD game on some of the sites. These are the types of girls I dated in college and in my 20's. They were way too much trouble then, and they are way too much trouble now, the only difference is that there is no way in hell the same kind of girls I put up with in my younger days are suddenly GPS-laden multi-fuckers worth $300-$1000. I had enough of these types then, and with all their issues and high-maintenance expectations now, why the fuck would I pay top dollar for that? I literally told one of them she had way too many rules, needs and phobias for what should be a simple, weekly meet-up-and-fuck session. Do you see now why I prefer the 60 (to 100) girls? I don't have the time or space to put up with anything else. Let me get off and go.What I'm seeing here is simply perspective. One mans experience does not equal the other. What you experienced such as dirty, smelly obviously didn't happen to me, didn't happen to others and we've all had bad experiences with so called 'good' providers. People like different things and we all see an experience from our own unique perspective. What it all boils down to in the end and the core of the discussion is this. If you don't want to pay what they ask then don't. Simple as that, but they have the right to not see you also. If you can talk them down and they accept, great if not onto the next. I simply don't think its our place to say what any provider things their time is worth because lets face it they're the working person and we're just having a good time. Then we want to complain from our place of fun vs theirs of work. Seems kinda crappy to me, but I digress. Nice to have an actual discussion every now and again though. I've rather enjoyed it.

TheInfJester
03-30-21, 19:49
This is a scam. It doesn't matter what the girl in the pics looks like, nor how inviting her ass. It's a scam. You will be charged. There is no girl. Since we're close to the subject, don't send a deposit either.


https://callescort.org/910-876-8769

Cute girl, awesome ass, pics are hot butt up & ready. I texted and she wanted me to join a website that needs a credit card ("but they don't ever charge you", she said) for verification for "her safety". I told her I don't join other sites to prove I'm real. She texted back "wish you trust me". Yeah. No. Anyone have real knowledge of her? Her ass is so inviting, and she advertises on several sites.

Thanks why'll! Be safe.

Shadows1517
03-30-21, 20:56
Been with Bailey a couple times. She has (imo) the hottest all natural body for a woman her age and with the length of time she, been in the business. She started way back as a dancer, with at least some time on the stage at Foxy Lady. Eve covered, her BJ is quite good. Great enthusiasm and pays attention to the boys and licks from base to tip and back. Have to admit that BJ is not my favorite with her though. She can ride, K9 and mish with the best. Mish with her legs wrapped around pulling me in rhythm is a great feeling and she truly seems to like a good fucking!

I know she stays out in the country, but I dug deep and had her come to me. YMMV, but I highly recommend. Bareback or not.Bailey does start the BJ with a minute or two of BB, then does the unroll the condom with her mouth and tongue. At least that was my experience. Sorry for leaving that out.

Fckjulian
03-30-21, 21:32
Accurate, her pictures are actually her, did beforehand intel into her before meeting, met at gas station by ice box, then had to go to her "spot" for car play, BBBJ cost extra, 100 QV didn't bother negotiating, will probably meet again if she has a room cars aren't for me.

ILikeBaseball2
03-31-21, 00:19
Let me start by saying that YMMV with this one. Anyways, she hits me up out of the blue asking if I was available. I'm at the arcade at this point but she asks for money. I had no intentions of making a visit and I wasn't about to break my resolution of no escorts. She asks for half, which would be $20 for this type of visit. She's done this before. Once I sent the money the first time she stops replying. This time I said no and she starts blowing up my phone about how her sisters boyfriend is going to cuss her out and all. Idgaf. It's really not my problem. Continues blowing my phone up. Calls, texts, voicemails, everything. I sent it to her as a test to see if she would hold her end of the bargain. Nope. Silence. Beware of this. I knew what is was and I don't mind losing $20 to prove a point. I truly believe she only posts and responds to texts when her sister needs the money. If any of you plan to see her, cash transactions only.

https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/northcarolina/raleighdurham/60340460/

ReflexPoint
03-31-21, 07:46
Before the covid-19, a regular descent provider rose donation used to be 60/80/150. Best looking girls 80/120/200.

Now, the prices are out of whack. The three regular providers I used to see are asking for 100/150/250 and others 120/200/300, and honestly it is not worth imo. No, the services did not get better, they are the same or even worse. I talk with one of them in a regular basis even though I don't visit her. It is just to chat, and she told me the lack of hobbyist made her increase her rose donations as well to make up for it. She knows when the little head thinks, money is not a problem in order to get the job done. She told me most of the time people will try to negotiate the price and she will get firm. 50% of the callers will call back later accepting the new rose donations, others won't but she will still break even seen less people making the same.

I am taking a break from this. I hope it gets better.

WhiskeyMooch
03-31-21, 08:10
Taylor is asking 400 hr. What?

RedPill71
03-31-21, 08:44
Before the covid-19, a regular descent provider rose donation used to be 60/80/150. Best looking girls 80/120/200.

Now, the prices are out of whack. The three regular providers I used to see are asking for 100/150/250 and others 120/200/300, and honestly it is not worth imo. No, the services did not get better, they are the same or even worse. I talk with one of them in a regular basis even though I don't visit her. It is just to chat, and she told me the lack of hobbyist made her increase her rose donations as well to make up for it. She knows when the little head thinks, money is not a problem in order to get the job done. She told me most of the time people will try to negotiate the price and she will get firm. 50% of the callers will call back later accepting the new rose donations, others won't but she will still break even seen less people making the same.

I am taking a break from this. I hope it gets better.You just gave a one-paragraph masterclass on exactly why the prices will NOT go down.

Sam2050
03-31-21, 09:09
Accurate, her pictures are actually her, did beforehand intel into her before meeting, met at gas station by ice box, then had to go to her "spot" for car play, BBBJ cost extra, 100 QV didn't bother negotiating, will probably meet again if she has a room cars aren't for me.Care to share link?

ILikeBaseball2
03-31-21, 09:11
Before the covid-19, a regular descent provider rose donation used to be 60/80/150. Best looking girls 80/120/200.

Now, the prices are out of whack. The three regular providers I used to see are asking for 100/150/250 and others 120/200/300, and honestly it is not worth imo. No, the services did not get better, they are the same or even worse. I talk with one of them in a regular basis even though I don't visit her. It is just to chat, and she told me the lack of hobbyist made her increase her rose donations as well to make up for it. She knows when the little head thinks, money is not a problem in order to get the job done. She told me most of the time people will try to negotiate the price and she will get firm. 50% of the callers will call back later accepting the new rose donations, others won't but she will still break even seen less people making the same.

I am taking a break from this. I hope it gets better.Take this time to save your money bro. Tbh, I doubt that it will get better for why'all. I came super close to paying the ultimate price recently. I'm 100% done with this business. I've come to learn that most providers aren't even worth those prices. Plus I've noticed that a lot of providers have also become desperate to the point where they scam clients. My advice, if the little head starts thinking, go rub one out. I bet you'll do a better job doing that than what most providers do out here. Stay safe.

Ignoramus
03-31-21, 09:39
Neglected to mention, maybe it was obvious to me because of how I search to begin with, but yes, excellent point to bring up. Especially if I am looking and totally luck out, like the first girl I'm interested in who I haven't seen before and luck out on the first click, she is nearby, or she is in a private location, etc., then I am automatically cool with 100 ish / etc. Conversely, I have recently had a cute girl (albeit with slight demons, just slight. Very coherent and normal, got into this during COVID when her waitress job went away) give me a discount because I was coming from 45 minutes away. That was pretty cool, and definitely sealed the deal (BBFS for 60,24 yo BTW!


To add to this respectful debate - (edited for length) I usually agree to see a girl based on appearance and location in that order.

Rapk9394
03-31-21, 09:55
Glad to see the discussion going on about prices. I always wonder when one said 60 or 80 is the norm and all I found is most ladies are firm on 100 for qv. I don't like the trend of prices going up but it seems demand is now far greater than supply of good provider. In fact I started to notice some stg girls started to advertise for 150 qv and wonder if anyone will shell out that amount and how was the experience?

Frank Dallas
03-31-21, 10:20
With one or two exceptions, there aint nothing here in this area that's worth more than $50 (for my tastes) and the exceptions are good enough to get me to pay whatever. The ads here are replete with yucksters, stuff that even pictures of cause me to go limp. And old, yuck. But, everyone has their needs I reckon.

That being said, at this point, I personally better off just rubbing one out. After several years of 18-25 year old hardbodies in SE Asia, or professional gobblers in the BJ Bars of BKK, or even the 30 year olds who look 18 (and I check I'd) you could grab for a $25 quickie down on Soi Nana, I am little willing to risk or waste my ill gotten gains on some methmouth or some smelly fatty. I look at it in a scientific sense, its based on a wank factor.

Consider: I can go RT to Budapest for $600 and rent an ABB there for $400 a month. Quality young Hungarian girls (go look at the porn sites for examples) go for say $100. A NIGHT. If I do a different girl every other day I just dropped $1500. Therefore my FPC (Fixed Pussy Cost) is $2500. If a QV is $50, then I have to resist the siren call of the babydamaged junkie stench box 50 times leaving my wank factor at 50. Thats easily doable in a month for some of you young satyrs. Me, an oldje, that's 2 months of resistance, that's it. And when the QV goes to $100, the Wank factor (WF) goes down to 25.

My advice to you single guys is to reach into your pocket, throw a $100 bill into your panty drawer, twist that chicken neck, have a ham sarnie, and go to bed. If you have issues, then spoog over a pic of your ex if necessary. The married boys will drive up the rates for you and then.

You pull that cash out of your drawer, check your vacation days and rock and roll. Everything is slowly opening up. Bangkok and Pattaya will be rocking in a few months with a lot of ladies hungry for your stimulis. Hungary, the new mecca of pooswa. Cartagena / Bogota / Medellin, cheap airfare, nice fat butts for those of you are into that. And last but not least, save up the sick days and blow into the Land of Fritz and Beer for some FKK action, because the pent up broke Russian girls will soon be flooding in again.

The action will be starting in probably September. Get your shot, jerkoff and start planning.

The rest of you, hey raise that QV price, it keeps my Wank Factor down.

TheInfJester
03-31-21, 11:47
This right here is gold. Frank, you had me at FPC. .


With one or two exceptions, there aint nothing here in this area that's worth more than $50 (for my tastes) and the exceptions are good enough to get me to pay whatever. The ads here are replete with yucksters, stuff that even pictures of cause me to go limp. And old, yuck. But, everyone has their needs I reckon.

That being said, at this point, I personally better off just rubbing one out. After several years of 18-25 year old hardbodies in SE Asia, or professional gobblers in the BJ Bars of BKK, or even the 30 year olds who look 18 (and I check I'd) you could grab for a $25 quickie down on Soi Nana, I am little willing to risk or waste my ill gotten gains on some methmouth or some smelly fatty. I look at it in a scientific sense, its based on a wank factor.

Consider: I can go RT to Budapest for $600 and rent an ABB there for $400 a month. Quality young Hungarian girls (go look at the porn sites for examples) go for say $100. A NIGHT. If I do a different girl every other day I just dropped $1500. Therefore my FPC (Fixed Pussy Cost) is $2500. If a QV is $50, then I have to resist the siren call of the babydamaged junkie stench box 50 times leaving my wank factor at 50. Thats easily doable in a month for some of you young satyrs. Me, an oldje, that's 2 months of resistance, that's it. And when the QV goes to $100, the Wank factor (WF) goes down to 25.

My advice to you single guys is to reach into your pocket, throw a $100 bill into your panty drawer, twist that chicken neck, have a ham sarnie, and go to bed. If you have issues, then spoog over a pic of your ex if necessary. The married boys will drive up the rates for you and then.

You pull that cash out of your drawer, check your vacation days and rock and roll. Everything is slowly opening up. Bangkok and Pattaya will be rocking in a few months with a lot of ladies hungry for your stimulis. Hungary, the new mecca of pooswa. Cartagena / Bogota / Medellin, cheap airfare, nice fat butts for those of you are into that. And last but not least, save up the sick days and blow into the Land of Fritz and Beer for some FKK action, because the pent up broke Russian girls will soon be flooding in again.

The action will be starting in probably September. Get your shot, jerkoff and start planning.

The rest of you, hey raise that QV price, it keeps my Wank Factor down.

Leon3798
03-31-21, 11:58
Glad to see the discussion going on about prices. I always wonder when one said 60 or 80 is the norm and all I found is most ladies are firm on 100 for qv. I don't like the trend of prices going up but it seems demand is now far greater than supply of good provider. In fact I started to notice some stg girls started to advertise for 150 qv and wonder if anyone will shell out that amount and how was the experience?I may not think we have a say but 150 for QV is a solid no. My specific tastes come with higher cost but I've turned down really stupid offers like 300 for 30 minutes. Not a chance. To me 100 bucks is not a big deal to get what I want. But don't think for any reason I'm chucking my money out the window. I might not feel horrible about an extra 20 ish here or there but 150 QV? No. Way.

Pubb69
03-31-21, 14:13
This right here is gold. Frank, you had me at FPC..I think he said it all as far as I am concerned.

RedPill71
03-31-21, 14:45
With one or two exceptions, there aint nothing here in this area that's worth more than $50 (for my tastes) and the exceptions are good enough to get me to pay whatever. The ads here are replete with yucksters, stuff that even pictures of cause me to go limp. And old, yuck. But, everyone has their needs I reckon.

That being said, at this point, I personally better off just rubbing one out. After several years of 18-25 year old hardbodies in SE Asia, or professional gobblers in the BJ Bars of BKK, or even the 30 year olds who look 18 (and I check I'd) you could grab for a $25 quickie down on Soi Nana, I am little willing to risk or waste my ill gotten gains on some methmouth or some smelly fatty. I look at it in a scientific sense, its based on a wank factor.

Consider: I can go RT to Budapest for $600 and rent an ABB there for $400 a month. Quality young Hungarian girls (go look at the porn sites for examples) go for say $100. A NIGHT. If I do a different girl every other day I just dropped $1500. Therefore my FPC (Fixed Pussy Cost) is $2500. If a QV is $50, then I have to resist the siren call of the babydamaged junkie stench box 50 times leaving my wank factor at 50. Thats easily doable in a month for some of you young satyrs. Me, an oldje, that's 2 months of resistance, that's it. And when the QV goes to $100, the Wank factor (WF) goes down to 25.Now we're talking here, going way deeper than simple Supply and Demand kids stuff. But we need more.

If we are going to make an initial pussy offering (IPO) then it's not just enough to know fixed pussy costs. We also have to know our variable pussy costs and what our break even pussy threshold is.

Now accounting is not my thing admittedly, neither is finance. Should we also be figuring out what the Future Value of the Pussy is going to be, in order to determine how much to sock away in our panty drawer? One thing I do know is that pussy today is most definitely worth more than pussy tomorrow.

LOL. Just having fun. But in all seriousness man you have to be considered something more than a hobbyist. You are getting into professional territory. .

Worst Nightmare
03-31-21, 16:34
This one is a totally scam. Gets you to the hotel floor and they try to rob you. I was lucky the maids were around, told them to call security and they took off. If I could sick LE on them I would. Totally POS.

https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/latin/jessie-jay/754534941671Yeah, I'm the guy that posted the same thing in Fredericksburg. I doubt there is even a real girl. You were lucky, the go put got a few punches in on me. Guy, around 6's'. Looks like they are still up to it in you area.

Wanderer9577
03-31-21, 18:11
See Frank, I definitely can agree. After several trips to Phils, BKK & Pattaya, Jakarta, and Cambodia, coming back home and spending the same amount of money here for 15 minutes that I could do there for an overnight? It is the very reason I have only had a few visits here now compared to what I used to have before I made my first trip overseas. Here it is very rare that I walk away feeling as if I had my money's worth out of a session. And they keep raising the prices and / or asking for deposits first to even set up an appointment. Yeah, no I am good. I think I am just going to go back to handling it myself until I can fly out of this country for another vacation.


With one or two exceptions, there aint nothing here in this area that's worth more than $50 (for my tastes) and the exceptions are good enough to get me to pay whatever. The ads here are replete with yucksters, stuff that even pictures of cause me to go limp. And old, yuck. But, everyone has their needs I reckon.

That being said, at this point, I personally better off just rubbing one out. After several years of 18-25 year old hardbodies in SE Asia, or professional gobblers in the BJ Bars of BKK, or even the 30 year olds who look 18 (and I check I'd) you could grab for a $25 quickie down on Soi Nana, I am little willing to risk or waste my ill gotten gains on some methmouth or some smelly fatty. I look at it in a scientific sense, its based on a wank factor.

Consider: I can go RT to Budapest for $600 and rent an ABB there for $400 a month. Quality young Hungarian girls (go look at the porn sites for examples) go for say $100. A NIGHT. If I do a different girl every other day I just dropped $1500. Therefore my FPC (Fixed Pussy Cost) is $2500. If a QV is $50, then I have to resist the siren call of the babydamaged junkie stench box 50 times leaving my wank factor at 50. Thats easily doable in a month for some of you young satyrs. Me, an oldje, that's 2 months of resistance, that's it. And when the QV goes to $100, the Wank factor (WF) goes down to 25.

My advice to you single guys is to reach into your pocket, throw a $100 bill into your panty drawer, twist that chicken neck, have a ham sarnie, and go to bed. If you have issues, then spoog over a pic of your ex if necessary. The married boys will drive up the rates for you and then.

You pull that cash out of your drawer, check your vacation days and rock and roll. Everything is slowly opening up. Bangkok and Pattaya will be rocking in a few months with a lot of ladies hungry for your stimulis. Hungary, the new mecca of pooswa. Cartagena / Bogota / Medellin, cheap airfare, nice fat butts for those of you are into that. And last but not least, save up the sick days and blow into the Land of Fritz and Beer for some FKK action, because the pent up broke Russian girls will soon be flooding in again.

The action will be starting in probably September. Get your shot, jerkoff and start planning.

The rest of you, hey raise that QV price, it keeps my Wank Factor down.

Raleigh69
03-31-21, 22:30
Yes dude this chick is a scammer. Tried it on me but I escaped. I think I reported on here awhile ago. YES gents stay away from this one she's a total scammer. She always finds a reason to leave. Then is gone forever. Sad thing is she's a decent looker and you 'want' her but it never happens. AVOID.https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...rham/59519313/

Raleigh69
03-31-21, 22:31
Yeah, I'm the guy that posted the same thing in Fredericksburg. I doubt there is even a real girl. You were lucky, the go put got a few punches in on me. Guy, around 6's'. Looks like they are still up to it in you area.https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...rham/59519313/

VelvetHeart7
03-31-21, 23:01
I think he said it all as far as I am concerned.If The Pub gives it a Thumbs Up, then it must be Pure Gold.

Sam2050
04-01-21, 08:58
BKS. I finally got activated but still don't see any forums out there, anyone knows what's up?

Anyone has any feedback for Adonna from BKS?

PleasureSeeker
04-01-21, 09:10
I guess I'll chime in and will keep it brief. Yes, just about everyone understands that the currency exchange rates across the globe offer huge advantages on the cost of everything, and not just this hobby. But who cares? If I'm in Manilla, I'll take full advantage. But I'm not and your not, so really. Let's get real and deal with what's here. QV rates of 120 should not be broached. That's my advice. The market won't come down if they get that and it's just total BS. That and never give out a deposit or some gift card. Otherwise, you're going to pay more here than in Pattaya, folks. Sorry but if you choose to jack it until you head out of country, I guess that's more girls here for the rest of us.

Anyone seen these girls?

https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/2-girl-special-mercedes-lustful-pleasures/38372573

Assuming she's fake but she keeps advertising and good lord!

https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/northcarolina/raleigh/60380981/

Monger on.

PenaltyKiller
04-01-21, 10:53
AMC on 3/31.

Raleih
04-01-21, 11:18
AMC on 3/31.Any details?

PartTimeMonger
04-01-21, 11:18
BKS. I finally got activated but still don't see any forums out there, anyone knows what's up?

Anyone has any feedback for Adonna from BKS?I've seen her. She's a very sweet girl and I thought she was prettier than her pics.

Regarding BKS, maybe you have to see one of their people before you get full access.

Sam2050
04-01-21, 12:02
I've seen her. She's a very sweet girl and I thought she was prettier than her pics.

Regarding BKS, maybe you have to see one of their people before you get full access.Thanks bro. I would see if I can match up with the scheduling.

Raleighguy
04-01-21, 12:21
AMC on 3/31.SMD is looking rough since the last time I saw her.

Tawayem
04-01-21, 12:33
AMC on 3/31.Is that "Ann Cloud is back in town" ?

Saw that picture yesterday and felt familiar but wasn't sure.

Kurt309
04-01-21, 12:54
Undercovers making bust today at the Wake Inn Brown Ford F-150 4 door tinted windows plainclothes guys I saw this riding by today. Lots of commotion going on there.

Frank Dallas
04-01-21, 14:48
SMD is looking rough since the last time I saw her.Examples of the overpriced hags some poor schnooks are paying for.

My hand is better looking and I bite my nails and have warts.

I remember a review here that's postulated in essense, hey hot chick but for the sores. OK then. Its another day in paradise!

Phaeton0401
04-01-21, 14:58
SMD is looking rough since the last time I saw her.Anyone know their posting names?

Sgiii
04-01-21, 15:18
Add BLJ to that list. She looks very familiar but can't place her.


Anyone know their posting names?

See200
04-01-21, 15:37
So we all know the pics in the Asian ads are fake and so what. (It's always funny when someone is shocked that they are fake.) But what if we created a category here just for Asian reviews?

We could have a better chance of getting a good dream before that one rotates out to the next town. It seems they stay about 2 weeks which is enough time for a dream report to assist others.

For example, the one last week had a pretty face, good English, real D's, was in her 30's, but had a bit of extra weight, gave a long CBJ, and tried to upsell for DATY.

That is enough info to make an informed decision. Doesn't it comes down to five issues: face, body type, tit size (real or fake), enthusiasm, service in general.

Just a thought.

Swimmer123
04-01-21, 15:56
So many scammers on stg and listcralwer now. Wanting upfront and selling content. What happened? Where did legit providers migrate to? Seeking is pretty similar.

Sam2050
04-01-21, 18:22
So finally I was able to complete all verification with BKSx and saw Adonna this afternoon. Nice girl overall, but I will not repeat. Damage $$$ for what supposed to be hour, and was not.

Kissed, but didn't want to kiss too much, so no DFK, didn't want me to play with tatas too much, I did play some but had to be careful, I don't like that. BJ was uncovered and nice, DATY was nice as well, 3 positions and busted. Chatting for few extra minutes then she started to get ready, means no MSOG and at this point I decided to leave. She did relax me but for the damage, it wasn't worth for me, specially when she advertises GFE and yet there were restrictions.

ILikeBaseball2
04-01-21, 22:46
Add BLJ to that list. She looks very familiar but can't place her.Yeah, I've definitely seen her before, around Christmas last year. Did a cashapp transaction through my phone and never came back. I got a little bit of revenge a few weeks later (inbox me for more info). Most of the time she's just looking to make a quick buck without actually providing anything. Sad that she's resorted to this type of crime but that's one less problem you mongers have to worry about. Stay safe gents.

Fckjulian
04-02-21, 00:52
Had the opportunity to get both girls together for a experience, both look exactly like their pics but I already knew this to be the case as I've known Layla for yrs now at this point, but I arrived at the location and didn't experience much of a wait and was let into the house, made conversation w / both then began the hhr, received BBBJ and cfs, w / both, they both laughed and communicated with each other and overall was a fun experience no real complaints outside of condoms which kill my libido but not doing BBFS w / anyone, YMMV as I said earlier I've known layla so there's that.

Ms layla -https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/ms-layla-every-wish-is-my-comm/219014119882.

Beebee -https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/beebee-call-for-a-kinkfreak/048087721056.

Raleigh69
04-02-21, 05:12
Any one remember Ariel? Arial?

KGD 3.13.21.

Million $ bond for trafficking.

PleasureSeeker
04-02-21, 10:33
Undercovers making bust today at the Wake Inn Brown Ford F-150 4 door tinted windows plainclothes guys I saw this riding by today. Lots of commotion going on there.That place seems to be under a lot of scrutiny, maybe due to its proximity to the main hospital.

HolyDiver01
04-02-21, 14:11
Add BLJ to that list. She looks very familiar but can't place her.SJH on 3/20, used to post as Taylor but hasn't done so in a couple months.

HolyDiver.

GBL86
04-02-21, 17:18
Any intel on this one?

https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/lala/019910255657

ILoveDeams
04-02-21, 19:01
Had the opportunity to get both girls together for a experience, both look exactly like their pics but I already knew this to be the case as I've known Layla for yrs now at this point, but I arrived at the location and didn't experience much of a wait and was let into the house, made conversation w / both then began the hhr, received BBBJ and cfs, w / both, they both laughed and communicated with each other and overall was a fun experience no real complaints outside of condoms which kill my libido but not doing BBFS w / anyone, YMMV as I said earlier I've known layla so there's that.

Ms layla -https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/ms-layla-every-wish-is-my-comm/219014119882.

Beebee -https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/beebee-call-for-a-kinkfreak/048087721056.I have seen Beebee in the past few times, the last couple of times I saw her she was high with track marks all over her arm. She was even in rehab for a while, has it changed?

ILoveDeams
04-02-21, 19:04
So finally I was able to complete all verification with BKSx and saw Adonna this afternoon. Nice girl overall, but I will not repeat. Damage $$$ for what supposed to be hour, and was not.

Kissed, but didn't want to kiss too much, so no DFK, didn't want me to play with tatas too much, I did play some but had to be careful, I don't like that. BJ was uncovered and nice, DATY was nice as well, 3 positions and busted. Chatting for few extra minutes then she started to get ready, means no MSOG and at this point I decided to leave. She did relax me but for the damage, it wasn't worth for me, specially when she advertises GFE and yet there were restrictions.I saw Adonna couple of times, the first time was good and I decided to repeat a few weeks ago. I was completely disappointed, I even let BKS know that it was unacceptable.

Fckjulian
04-02-21, 19:42
I have seen Beebee in the past few times, the last couple of times I saw her she was high with track marks all over her arm. She was even in rehab for a while, has it changed?Whatever demons are troubling her still appear to be so but she was fully lucid during our experience.

ILikeBaseball2
04-02-21, 21:22
ARS 4/2/21.

Never saw her but she was a frequent poster on listcrawler.

Shadows1517
04-02-21, 21:23
Any of you fellow hobbyists know of a way to cut through the crap of all the scammers and thieves to find a decent provider with moderate (read as not streetwalker inexpensive, but not Eros high-end ladies. At least high end prices) rates for their time. My ideal is to find someone who wants a regular who doesn't have sugar a daddy wallet? Just a fair dream at a fair price with someone not high every time you see her, and not located in a New Bern Sting target motel?

Any suggestions of providers you may know who fit this description would be great. If you care to share them. PM me if so.

Thank guys!

Shadows.

ILikeBaseball2
04-02-21, 21:24
SJH on 3/20, used to post as Taylor but hasn't done so in a couple months.

HolyDiver.She's been reviewed on this forum. Negative reviews, extensive criminal history, and prices were way too high for too little. Stay safe.

Tawayem
04-03-21, 01:13
https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/clean-wet-pussy-gfe-anal-blow/988692766215

Any idea if legit?

Deposit kinda makes it a no-go anyway, but still.

Robert1744
04-03-21, 08:24
I got the itch for the first time in a loooooong time and saw this ad this morning on SKG.

https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/special-offer-1h-1802h-240shor/543828968497

Erika is SO my type, girl-next door looks. The phone number doesn't pop up in other cities, she seems legit. We start texting and agree on an $80 QV. She asks for some money upfront. I don't mind this given the amount. A lot of these girls do get scammed by the guys. So I cashapp half of it and she comes back asking for full payment before we can schedule anything.

Nope. I walked. I told her that's not how I do business and that I've been scammed. I told her if she wants to see an experience hobbyist who tips, let me know and I'll bring the rest of the donation. But I absolutely don't mind losing $40 to not risk losing another $40 and told her that.

My gut tells me she probably isn't scamming. She's cute and used to getting what she wants. Not from me. The customer always sets the rules. If I can't lose $40 to abide by that, I've got no business playing this game.

YMMV.

Gatttaca
04-03-21, 09:49
What was the hotel / location?After a while in this hobby I would definitely never wait in the parking lot. Just keep driving around the block. And when you get the room # then go ahead and park. Or at least have a rule of not waiting more than 5 minutes. But shit man I would be shittin in my pants if something like this happens to me. Glad you got out of this.

G.

TheyLoveMe
04-03-21, 09:59
So they are real? & clean and safe? And is it a select girls I can choose from?

Steeler1980
04-03-21, 11:49
So many scammers on stg and listcralwer now. Wanting upfront and selling content. What happened? Where did legit providers migrate to? Seeking is pretty similar.A lot of the good ones went UTR, man. Some got completely out of the game.

Bb211
04-03-21, 11:54
I got the itch for the first time in a loooooong time and saw this ad this morning on SKG.

https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/special-offer-1h-1802h-240shor/543828968497

Erika is SO my type, girl-next door looks. The phone number doesn't pop up in other cities, she seems legit. We start texting and agree on an $80 QV. She asks for some money upfront. I don't mind this given the amount. A lot of these girls do get scammed by the guys. So I cashapp half of it and she comes back asking for full payment before we can schedule anything.

Nope. I walked. I told her that's not how I do business and that I've been scammed. I told her if she wants to see an experience hobbyist who tips, let me know and I'll bring the rest of the donation. But I absolutely don't mind losing $40 to not risk losing another $40 and told her that.

My gut tells me she probably isn't scamming. She's cute and used to getting what she wants. Not from me. The customer always sets the rules. If I can't lose $40 to abide by that, I've got no business playing this game.

YMMV.A scammers dream come true. There are plenty more scams out there that will take $40 and laugh at fools. Wow!,

Bb211
04-03-21, 11:59
https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/clean-wet-pussy-gfe-anal-blow/988692766215

Any idea if legit?

Deposit kinda makes it a no-go anyway, but still.You should proceed. Then you will learn not to fall for this in the future.

Sam2050
04-03-21, 12:39
I saw Adonna couple of times, the first time was good and I decided to repeat a few weeks ago. I was completely disappointed, I even let BKS know that it was unacceptable.I posted a review on BKS but how do you let them know? Just text back or something?

I was disappointed as well, as the session was more of a 'I am doing you a favor' then anything else, even though there were some moments she was getting in but overall she wasn't.

AzBadger7
04-03-21, 13:27
Not really understanding this post and not trying to hate but... headline to your post says "Potential Scam". She took $40 deposit from you without showing up, tried to extort even more out of you before ghosting. That's a definite scam. Can't even see the post on your link because it got deleted. You say you're an 'experienced hobbyist' who's been scammed before. How many times do you have to lose $10/$20/$40 deposits before you learn? You’ve twisted the logic to make it sound like you saved $40 by not paying the full deposit like he/she demanded. That scammer is happy as hell to to take whatever you give them and move on to the next schmuck. Don’t pay deposits.


I got the itch for the first time in a loooooong time and saw this ad this morning on SKG.

https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/special-offer-1h-1802h-240shor/543828968497

Erika is SO my type, girl-next door looks. The phone number doesn't pop up in other cities, she seems legit. We start texting and agree on an $80 QV. She asks for some money upfront. I don't mind this given the amount. A lot of these girls do get scammed by the guys. So I cashapp half of it and she comes back asking for full payment before we can schedule anything.

Nope. I walked. I told her that's not how I do business and that I've been scammed. I told her if she wants to see an experience hobbyist who tips, let me know and I'll bring the rest of the donation. But I absolutely don't mind losing $40 to not risk losing another $40 and told her that.

My gut tells me she probably isn't scamming. She's cute and used to getting what she wants. Not from me. The customer always sets the rules. If I can't lose $40 to abide by that, I've got no business playing this game.

YMMV.

AzBadger7
04-03-21, 14:17
My advice, and I'm sure a lot of guys would disagree with me on this, is to sign up for one month of Seeking Arrangement. Wait til you find a promo code so you're not paying $90 or whatever they charge. Get as many phone numbers as you can in that 1 month. Still have to look out for scammers, not so much thieves, but the quality of girls you're looking for is there. You probably won't be able to get the white / sorority college girl for the price you're looking for but you can find single moms in their 30's, older milfs, younger black / hispanic girls for 100-250 per meet. It's very 'hit or miss', a lot of it depends on you making the effort but I think you'll have better success with SA than on STG / Eros.


Any of you fellow hobbyists know of a way to cut through the crap of all the scammers and thieves to find a decent provider with moderate (read as not streetwalker inexpensive, but not Eros high-end ladies. At least high end prices) rates for their time. My ideal is to find someone who wants a regular who doesn't have sugar a daddy wallet? Just a fair dream at a fair price with someone not high every time you see her, and not located in a New Bern Sting target motel?

Any suggestions of providers you may know who fit this description would be great. If you care to share them. PM me if so.

Thank guys!

Shadows.

Edifice
04-03-21, 15:18
I've seen her. She's a very sweet girl and I thought she was prettier than her pics.

Regarding BKS, maybe you have to see one of their people before you get full access.After first dream you get the VIP access. Look for specials as well once you have VIP access.

Shadows1517
04-03-21, 16:11
My advice, and I'm sure a lot of guys would disagree with me on this, is to sign up for one month of Seeking Arrangement. Wait til you find a promo code so you're not paying $90 or whatever they charge. Get as many phone numbers as you can in that 1 month. Still have to look out for scammers, not so much thieves, but the quality of girls you're looking for is there. You probably won't be able to get the white / sorority college girl for the price you're looking for but you can find single moms in their 30's, older milfs, younger black / hispanic girls for 100-250 per meet. It's very 'hit or miss', a lot of it depends on you making the effort but I think you'll have better success with SA than on STG / Eros.Definitely a thought I hadn't hit on myself. I know there are scammers out there and read about guys falling prey every day here. Just getting so tired of how difficult it has become to find someone who will respond, meet, and then deliver as promised. All of the possibilities you called out are fine by me. I'm not getting any younger, and the older milfs are likely still younger than me. Race is less important than attitude and personality these days. A hook-up should just be fun. Period.

Thanks again! Other ideas welcomed as well.

ILoveDeams
04-03-21, 16:58
I posted a review on BKS but how do you let them know? Just text back or something?

I was disappointed as well, as the session was more of a 'I am doing you a favor' then anything else, even though there were some moments she was getting in but overall she wasn't.Exact feeling I got as well, plus a very cold attitude. As soon as we were done, I started to get the feeling she wanted me out of there. I just text BKS and told whoever the person was on the other end. I guess leaving a review on their site may have unnecessary consequences.

Shadows1517
04-03-21, 16:59
Seems like 20% of the providers out there are using Sweet in the Middle in their Ad Tag Line. Anyone know if this is just a nod to the song Sweet in the Middle by Davido?

I mean, I get it we all target the middle, one side or the other, but this makes it harder to spot the same girl on multiple sites. Which I try to do to add to my confidence they are real girls.

Any thoughts? Anyone else notice this. Especially lately?

Thanks. Shadows.

Rapk9394
04-03-21, 17:40
Exact feeling I got as well, plus a very cold attitude. As soon as we were done, I started to get the feeling she wanted me out of there. I just text BKS and told whoever the person was on the other end. I guess leaving a review on their site may have unnecessary consequences.I met Adonna late last year and got the same treatment. It was good at the beginning but felt I was being rushed out and my whole stay was less than an half hour.

One thing that caught my attention was she told me she had no idea what was being advertised on BKS for example she was not 24 and not from Colombia. I don't know what happened between her and BKS but the info BKS gave out does not match the actual date.

VelvetHeart7
04-03-21, 18:24
https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/clean-wet-pussy-gfe-anal-blow/988692766215

Any idea if legit?

Deposit kinda makes it a no-go anyway, but still.The penis is strong with this one.

SteinMetz71
04-03-21, 21:30
Exact feeling I got as well, plus a very cold attitude. As soon as we were done, I started to get the feeling she wanted me out of there. I just text BKS and told whoever the person was on the other end. I guess leaving a review on their site may have unnecessary consequences.Same thing happened to me. First visit with Adonna was awesome. Went back about 2 months later and it was like I wasn't even there. Very cold and unresponsive. I think I could have left once she got her toy out and she wouldn't have even noticed. Such a waste. Beautiful body but piss poor attitude.

Dasalt
04-03-21, 23:00
https://adultsearch.com/north-carolina/raleigh/female-escorts/2290029

Don't have the time to tell the entire story right now, but this is one of the most bullshit 'Oh by the way' deposit scammers I have ever had the joy of seeing ply their trade. Will fill in details later but trust me, avoid this one like the plague.

Ray Zorbumps
04-04-21, 00:46
Seems like 20% of the providers out there are using Sweet in the Middle in their Ad Tag Line. Anyone know if this is just a nod to the song Sweet in the Middle by Davido?

I mean, I get it we all target the middle, one side or the other, but this makes it harder to spot the same girl on multiple sites. Which I try to do to add to my confidence they are real girls.

Any thoughts? Anyone else notice this. Especially lately?

Thanks. Shadows.It's funny I just googled the song and lyrics. In addition to "Sweet in the middle " more than one provider has used the word "swim" which can be an acronym for Sweet In the Middle.

I hope someone can provide definite information.

Jb121
04-04-21, 00:55
So they are real? & clean and safe? And is it a select girls I can choose from?These are not real pics.

Zoo Keeper
04-04-21, 05:28
This girl.

https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/sexy-stephanie/560434458301

I searched her images, they didn't appear on any non-escort sites. I did, however, find another potential review, but, I dunno how credible the source is considering this is my first time hearing of it.

https://tosluts.com/forums/showthread.php/3996101-984-235-8263-Charming-Unforgettable-Lady

MrMrb072
04-04-21, 06:03
Have anyone heard anything about her or have seen her lately in sandford seems she has drop of the map in that location.

ReflexPoint
04-04-21, 09:17
Its been a while since this happened to me, but in case you are planning to visit this one I recommend you to stay away. Here is the link.

https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/northcarolina/raleighdurham/60497078/

New face, I thought I will give it a try. I texted this morning and I got a reply within 30 min indicating availability. 120 HH was the dream and once I got there, I was told to park in the driveway of a house. A guy comes up and ask for the roses upfront and gave me instructions to go straight to the last room of the house and don't say anything. I should probably turn around, but as always, I f* up and went in.

I opened the door and there are 5 other guys spread on what it was the living room and the dining room / kitchen. "Toy" is standing on a chair (yes, standing). I have seen her before, and even though she is good, things can go wrong with her because I honestly think she is bipolar. The last 2 times her mood changes were a factor why I would not call her anymore. At this point I knew I screwed up because the donation was handed to the dude, and Toy recognized me and jumped to greet me. People there started laughing and she started saying we go way back and she knows me and I was a loyal customer, yada yada. Dude that took the money comes in and joins to the conversation. We chatted for 2-3 minutes. She asked me where I was and how I was doing, etc.

Dude that took the donation told her not to make me wait and grabs her hand and some roses went there. She asked me what was the agreed dreamed and I answered. She look at him and straightened her hand asking for the 'rest'. At first everyone was laughing, and they were going back and forth about this.

Dude that received the donation tells me to go to the back as planned and everything will be taken care of. I was waiting in a room with a sofa only for about 7 minutes. I could tell the argument started escalating to a new level because now people were raising their voices. At that point, I was debating whether to leave, but I wanted to do it in a way that won't make them mad. I knew the rose donation was lost at that point, but I did not care. Then, Toy comes in and tells me come with her because she wanted to say something. So I followed her to the living room, and now there is another lady with the guys out there.

She opens her hand and says I just want to let you know you are a loyal customer and I am basically doing this for zero roses, but I am doing this only for you. She pointed few people that I guess took part of the roses and said that was not fair. People there started questioning her, and I interrupted saying that I was leaving because I had to be somewhere else, and I don't want them to argue because of this. Of course, I won't ask for the roses back.

Dude that took the donation tells me I don't have to do that, and asked me to following him again and told me to wait and things will be taken care of. After waiting for 3 minutes, I noticed the discussion was not going to stop so I walked back to the living room and told them I have to go. Dude that took the donation told me not to, and business is business and go back. I told him the truth. Hey man, I came in, we all started laughing now all are arguing with each other and I feel it is my fault. I am walking out, and I hope you guys have a good day. I left with no dream and with no roses. Apparently, the lady with glasses in the link supposed to be there, but she was not responding to his call, so Toy came in.

Sam2050
04-04-21, 09:57
Exact feeling I got as well, plus a very cold attitude. As soon as we were done, I started to get the feeling she wanted me out of there. I just text BKS and told whoever the person was on the other end. I guess leaving a review on their site may have unnecessary consequences.Well, I posted the feedback and if there are consequences, I will let you know. I wouldn't back down from posting a review and helping my fellow mongers making an informed decision, and either they take it and fix the issue or limit me, that would tell a lot about the service itself. I will text BKS as well as you mentioned.

Sam2050
04-04-21, 09:59
Same thing happened to me. First visit with Adonna was awesome. Went back about 2 months later and it was like I wasn't even there. Very cold and unresponsive. I think I could have left once she got her toy out and she wouldn't have even noticed. Such a waste. Beautiful body but piss poor attitude.Oh I saw the toy there too LOL.

Sam2050
04-04-21, 10:05
After first dream you get the VIP access. Look for specials as well once you have VIP access.Thanks I see the specials LOL but not many options LOL.

Lookin Good
04-04-21, 11:31
This girl.

https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/sexy-stephanie/560434458301

I searched her images, they didn't appear on any non-escort sites. I did, however, find another potential review, but, I dunno how credible the source is considering this is my first time hearing of it.

https://tosluts.com/forums/showthread.php/3996101-984-235-8263-Charming-Unforgettable-LadyDon't know about the girl but don't believe anything you read on tosluts. I'm not sure what their angle is but it's a scam site 100%.

TheInfJester
04-04-21, 11:33
I haven't found TOS to be reliable. Truth be told, I'm not sure it's a real site. I have personally avoided.

I usually use this website, The Erotic Review, and Private Delights to check reviews as I find them all reliable. I sometimes also use Erotic Monkey, but it is less reliable.

The girl you linked has been posting since Feb, and started in Jacksonville. If you're game to TOFTT, go for it and report back. Otherwise, I would avoid.


This girl.

https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/sexy-stephanie/560434458301

I searched her images, they didn't appear on any non-escort sites. I did, however, find another potential review, but, I dunno how credible the source is considering this is my first time hearing of it.

https://tosluts.com/forums/showthread.php/3996101-984-235-8263-Charming-Unforgettable-Lady

Bb211
04-04-21, 11:36
This girl.

https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/sexy-stephanie/560434458301

I searched her images, they didn't appear on any non-escort sites. I did, however, find another potential review, but, I dunno how credible the source is considering this is my first time hearing of it.

https://tosluts.com/forums/showthread.php/3996101-984-235-8263-Charming-Unforgettable-LadyNot a true review site. Made up reviews completely not true.

Bb211
04-04-21, 12:01
My advice, and I'm sure a lot of guys would disagree with me on this, is to sign up for one month of Seeking Arrangement. Wait til you find a promo code so you're not paying $90 or whatever they charge. Get as many phone numbers as you can in that 1 month. Still have to look out for scammers, not so much thieves, but the quality of girls you're looking for is there. You probably won't be able to get the white / sorority college girl for the price you're looking for but you can find single moms in their 30's, older milfs, younger black / hispanic girls for 100-250 per meet. It's very 'hit or miss', a lot of it depends on you making the effort but I think you'll have better success with SA than on STG / Eros.If you would move this to the right board that is named for SA plus more you would find a wealth of info. Instead of under Escort Reviews. Seriously!

Ignoramus
04-04-21, 12:17
And that picture makes her look like a supermodel; you should see some of the other mugshots. Some of these girls have lived so hard, they must have the insides of a 95 year old. No thanks. Hope she gets help this time.


ARS 4/2/21.

Never saw her but she was a frequent poster on listcrawler.

AzBadger7
04-04-21, 13:36
1) The poster asked the question on the escort board, why wouldn't I answer it on this board? I could have DM'ed him but I'm sure other people have the same question.

2) I gave an opinion to try and help out a fellow poster. I gave him an option and if he wants to go down the SA rabbit hole, that's his prerogative. If you want to disagree with me on substance, no problem. SA isn't perfect and not right for everyone. Would love to hear your answer or anyone else's answer to his question of where to find quality women for a reasonable price. Instead you provide nothing of substance and cry 'wrong board' 😢128546;.

3) Every now and then, this board gets off topic. Just a few pages back the discussion was about ****** in Bangkok / Hungary / Where-ever-the-Fuck-istan That didn't apply to about 99% of the board. You know what I and everyone else did, read on past it without bitching and moaning about 'wrong board'. Lighten up Francis.


If you would move this to the right board that is named for SA plus more you would find a wealth of info. Instead of under Escort Reviews. Seriously!

Mrtlc50
04-04-21, 14:32
I've seen her a few times myself and she was great but she just has these mood swings and the least little thing sets her off. Too fuckin crazy for me. Good time in the sack but the fuckin drama aint worth it. She burns too many bridges and even though she says she's drug free she's got to be on something or at least she needs to be on some serious meds.

I did an over night once and walked in on her without her makeup. Fuck what a sight. I was like damn makeup does make a lot of difference. Enjoy her till she freaks out on you LOL. Don't do anything to piss her off, meaning don't breath LOL. She would be great if she lost the attitude and treated people with some respect vs just putting on a front to get her candy money. She plays the game well that's for sure.


Had a dream of this beauty today and boy was it a good one.

To start she is beautiful, sweet and intelligent. She is only doing outcalls atm so if ya can't host maybe wait a bit to see if that changes.

Personality: When she got to the room we chatted a bit and I was blown away by her amazing personality and general positive outlook on life. I know most of you savages don't care about that but for those who do she is a gem.

Looks: Easy 10. She has a beautiful dark complexion, very fit body, beautiful breasts and nice soft ass.

Performance: As for the activities, she delivers. Her mouth game is on point, maybe the best ever and definitely top 3. Pretty sure we hit just about every position and she is both enthusiastic and for lack of a better term "active". I was honestly blown away by how amazingly sensual she is.

Someone is bound to ask so yes, Greek is available but will be extra.

Overall I will definitely be seeing her again.

https://tryst.link/escort/hialeah

Shadows1517
04-04-21, 14:37
A few weeks back I asked if anyone knew the whereabouts of this girl. A couple guys suggested she'd been a guest of the county somewhere, or maybe followed bike week to Florida. It appears from the newest (pics that there is now a good bit more of her to hold onto than before. Falling further down my list of desires, especially at $$hr. Handful of pooch with your doggie?

https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/best-mouth-in-the-south/37214405

https://callescort.org/984-464-3904

OneBurner658
04-04-21, 15:30
New to the Raleigh area, any suggestions on good providers for a good price? I've looked at TaylorMade but haven't heard the greatest things about her.

Joe Looking
04-04-21, 20:09
So last week after a discussion on price I decided to see a lower cost hooker. I was just looking for a good BJ so I settled on https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/incall-specials-at-hotel-with/999108739197. I'm not into large girls but I was looking for a BJ and to spend no more than 60 which she agreed to. The setup was really easy but the BJ was just okay. It's not going down in the books as top 10 but if she'd do it for 40-50 which I get the impression she might given how available she was, I'd be happy to rotate past hers when I had the itch.

To anticipate some questions. The pics are real and accurate so for me she won't win any beauty contests. She smokes cigarettes but I saw no evidence of drugs. She's not overly personable or friendly which at this point for me I don't really care about. The BJ was just soso, she took direction well and is willing to do covered or uncovered. At the price point Renee is a better option if she's around.

ILoveDeams
04-04-21, 22:23
Anyone seen these two?

https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/pick-your-poison/288777271033

BobCowan
04-05-21, 08:15
Does anyone know if Ashton allows you to video your session with an upcharge?

JimzCatz
04-05-21, 08:20
So last week after a discussion on price I decided to see a lower cost hooker. I was just looking for a good BJ so I settled on https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/incall-specials-at-hotel-with/999108739197. I'm not into large girls but I was looking for a BJ and to spend no more than 60 which she agreed to. The setup was really easy but the BJ was just okay. It's not going down in the books as top 10 but if she'd do it for 40-50 which I get the impression she might given how available she was, I'd be happy to rotate past hers when I had the itch.

To anticipate some questions. The pics are real and accurate so for me she won't win any beauty contests. She smokes cigarettes but I saw no evidence of drugs. She's not overly personable or friendly which at this point for me I don't really care about. The BJ was just soso, she took direction well and is willing to do covered or uncovered. At the price point Renee is a better option if she's around.Your link doesn't work my friend.

Hotocu
04-05-21, 09:24
Anyone know where Olivia is now? Have not seen her post in awhile?

Ignoramus
04-05-21, 10:13
Link to working ad?

BTW, "Good time in the sack but the fuckin drama aint worth it. " You just described every bipolar chick!


I've seen her a few times myself and she was great but she just has these mood swings and the least little thing sets her off. Too fuckin crazy for me. Good time in the sack but the fuckin drama aint worth it. She burns too many bridges and even though she says she's drug free she's got to be on something or at least she needs to be on some serious meds.

I did an over night once and walked in on her without her makeup. Fuck what a sight. I was like damn makeup does make a lot of difference. Enjoy her till she freaks out on you LOL. Don't do anything to piss her off, meaning don't breath LOL. She would be great if she lost the attitude and treated people with some respect vs just putting on a front to get her candy money. She plays the game well that's for sure.

LuvTheLadeez
04-05-21, 11:26
Anyone / where interesting in Sanford?

WpbDude
04-05-21, 11:31
1) The poster asked the question on the escort board, why wouldn't I answer it on this board? I could have DM'ed him but I'm sure other people have the same question.

2) I gave an opinion to try and help out a fellow poster. I gave him an option and if he wants to go down the SA rabbit hole, that's his prerogative. If you want to disagree with me on substance, no problem. SA isn't perfect and not right for everyone. Would love to hear your answer or anyone else's answer to his question of where to find quality women for a reasonable price. Instead you provide nothing of substance and cry 'wrong board' 😢128546;.

3) Every now and then, this board gets off topic. Just a few pages back the discussion was about ****** in Bangkok / Hungary / Where-ever-the-Fuck-istan That didn't apply to about 99% of the board. You know what I and everyone else did, read on past it without bitching and moaning about 'wrong board'. Lighten up Francis."Lighten up Francis". Hahahahaha, I like a good "Stripes" quote here and there. Sorry, off topic.

HappyMan22
04-05-21, 14:19
So I saw her post months ago and could never set anything up. So, yesterday I finally did at 3:30 pm I did this 2 hrs in advance. About 30 minutes prior I asked her if she was affiliated with Law enforcement and could she send me a face pic. I asked twice so at 3:40 pm I left the area then 20 mins later she said "I had to change rooms and did not notice I was texting her. " I noticed now there are two guys on her post but they were not there before. Be safe.

https://callescort.org/704-497-9833

Khris
04-05-21, 14:37
So I saw her post months ago and could never set anything up. So, yesterday I finally did at 3:30 pm I did this 2 hrs in advance. About 30 minutes prior I asked her if she was affiliated with Law enforcement and could she send me a face pic. I asked twice so at 3:40 pm I left the area then 20 mins later she said "I had to change rooms and did not notice I was texting her. " I noticed now there are two guys on her post but they were not there before. Be safe.

https://callescort.org/704-497-9833She has a pic of 2 guys with the headline "grabbem stabbem". Why would anyone book her.

LucidPicture
04-05-21, 15:06
Looks like Sunny got picked up last night (JNP).

Bb211
04-05-21, 15:35
1) The poster asked the question on the escort board, why wouldn't I answer it on this board? I could have DM'ed him but I'm sure other people have the same question.

2) I gave an opinion to try and help out a fellow poster. I gave him an option and if he wants to go down the SA rabbit hole, that's his prerogative. If you want to disagree with me on substance, no problem. SA isn't perfect and not right for everyone. Would love to hear your answer or anyone else's answer to his question of where to find quality women for a reasonable price. Instead you provide nothing of substance and cry 'wrong board' 😢128546;.

3) Every now and then, this board gets off topic. Just a few pages back the discussion was about ****** in Bangkok / Hungary / Where-ever-the-Fuck-istan That didn't apply to about 99% of the board. You know what I and everyone else did, read on past it without bitching and moaning about 'wrong board'. Lighten up Francis.There is a fight, yell, scream board to post on. Try it.

Smugly
04-05-21, 18:23
JNP 4/05/21 you know who that be. And while Smugs has your attention Who knows what the deal is with this one? I Have read whereshe does a hard upsell, but what about that body? Lots of headshots but not to many body shots. http://adultsearch.com/north-carolina/raleigh/female-escorts/2287208.

Raleigh69
04-05-21, 19:28
JNP 4/05/21 you know who that be. And while Smugs has your attention Who knows what the deal is with this one? I Have read whereshe does a hard upsell, but what about that body? Lots of headshots but not to many body shots. http://adultsearch.com/north-carolina/raleigh/female-escorts/2287208.She looks like someone that was around 6-8 years ago. Built like a 30 gal trash can. Always an up sell.

Raleigh69
04-05-21, 19:34
JNP 4/05/21 you know who that be. And while Smugs has your attention Who knows what the deal is with this one? I Have read whereshe does a hard upsell, but what about that body? Lots of headshots but not to many body shots. http://adultsearch.com/north-carolina/raleigh/female-escorts/2287208.What's her stage name? Apparently they're all on H. Haven't seen any details on KGD arrest. Still on a million $ bond.

DMizzle26
04-05-21, 21:08
She has a pic of 2 guys with the headline "grabbem stabbem". Why would anyone book her.Maybe ya shouldn't trust her but the 2 guys in the pics is nothing to be worried about they is 2 famous Rappers from Florida unless their career has drastically failed in the past month I highly doubt those 2 guys is traveling around with an Escort looking to rob and stab people.

Smugly
04-05-21, 21:13
What's her stage name? Apparently they're all on H. Haven't seen any details on KGD arrest. Still on a million $ bond.Thanks for the "Heads Up " so to speak. LOL. I believe our trustee goes by "Sun Knee".

Mrtlc50
04-05-21, 21:19
Link to working ad?

BTW, "Good time in the sack but the fuckin drama aint worth it. " You just described every bipolar chick!https://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/hialeah-7866717817-321391

Serrbrak
04-06-21, 00:00
Alright. Had an itch today, so tried to get in contact with Ginger, but got ghosted. So after no response from her I started looking elsewhere.

Saw this girl https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/need-a-real-fantasy-to-come-tr/202212850369 and the experience was kinda unsatisfactory to say the least.

We started talking around 7:30, she said she was on her way and didn't arrive until about 10:05. I asked her how far she lived and she said she lived about 10 minutes from me, so don't expect punctuality.

Took us about 20 minutes just to get started cause she forgot the rubbers in her car and I don't keep any in my house. It's bad luck. Plus she was running back and forth to the bathroom and was kinda like a chicken with her head cut off for a good amount of time there.

She asked me how much time I wanted her for and I told her 15 minutes. Listen guys, I'm getting old and I can't last as long as I did when I was younger, so I'm not about to pay someone for 30 minutes when I know I'm going to be done in 5. Because when you do that, whether you paid for 15,30 or an hour. If you finish in 5, you best believe they're going to clean up and run out that door searching for the next customer.

Anyway, as for the act itself. I'll give ya'll the short version. Everything's covered. She started with a CBJ which lasted about 3 minutes before she directed me to CFS. We start in mish, end in doggie, let me finish wherever I wanted. That lasts for about 4 minutes, (again I'm getting old don't judge me). I know this for a fact because I have the clock running on my phone and I hit the timer while she was in the bathroom getting cleaned up. Total time was 7 minutes 16 seconds. Mind you total time might be shorter since I waited for her to get into the bathroom before I hit the timer and that took a few seconds. We did DFK for a bit before and during mish, so she's got no problem with that.

Her rates for me were 120 for a QV, 175 hhr, and 200 HR. These rates may not be the same for you though. She must've been in to me since I sent her a picture before hand, but the client who messaged her after we finished got way higher rates. She told him 250 hhr and 350 hr.

I was like damn, I felt bad paying this girl 120 for a QV, cause overall she was worth 50, maybe 60. But a deal's a deal and I honor deals. Apparently that's a one way street though.

Cause I gave her 120 upfront, but after she tried to upsell on the time she was running around like a chicken with her head cut off. She said she was here for 51 minutes and tried to be cute and charge me for an hour. I'm like naw we had sex for 7 minutes and honestly, I don't have any more money here. She didn't argue with me cause she had a 350 payday coming her way and was ready to race out of the house when I told her she wasn't getting a dime more.

Let's talk about appearance. She's got nice hair and a cute face. But she doesn't look like she looks in the pictures. She's got a bit of a belly on her now and she says it's cause she had surgery, which I hope is true, cause she looked kinda pregnant. She's shaved down under and she's got a pretty flat chest.

Now don't get me wrong, she's a sweet girl. She's not LEO and she's pretty tame. If you're looking for a safe bet in a sea full of scammers you'll at least get something without having to worry about going to jail or someone fishing for a deposit. But overall I wouldn't repeat. Not for money at least. That's just me being honest. Not anywhere near my best conquest. There's better options out there if you can get a hold of any of them.

Now I'm going to whine a bit. I been a silent monger for a long time, never really posted reviews or anything. Just moved to NC from Florida, but I used to be very active when Backpage was still a thing. I must've seen close to a hundred girls during my time in Florida. Don't get me wrong, some were misses, but I'd say the vast majority were high quality dates. But when the Feds shut that down it was like the overall quality of service has dropped and the ease of finding good providers has just gone out the window. I guess I'm just sentimental or something, but I sure do miss Backpage.

GWill34
04-06-21, 07:32
What's her stage name? Apparently they're all on H. Haven't seen any details on KGD arrest. Still on a million $ bond.https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/other/no-deposit-requiredno-scams-no/232856806526

JimzCatz
04-06-21, 08:30
Alright. Had an itch today, so tried to get in contact with Ginger, but got ghosted. So after no response from her I started looking elsewhere.

Saw this girl https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/need-a-real-fantasy-to-come-tr/202212850369 and the experience was kinda unsatisfactory to say the least.

We started talking around 7:30, she said she was on her way and didn't arrive until about 10:05. I asked her how far she lived and she said she lived about 10 minutes from me, so don't expect punctuality.

Took us about 20 minutes just to get started cause she forgot the rubbers in her car and I don't keep any in my house. It's bad luck. Plus she was running back and forth to the bathroom and was kinda like a chicken with her head cut off for a good amount of time there.

She asked me how much time I wanted her for and I told her 15 minutes. Listen guys, I'm getting old and I can't last as long as I did when I was younger, so I'm not about to pay someone for 30 minutes when I know I'm going to be done in 5. Because when you do that, whether you paid for 15,30 or an hour. If you finish in 5, you best believe they're going to clean up and run out that door searching for the next customer.

Anyway, as for the act itself. I'll give ya'll the short version. Everything's covered. She started with a CBJ which lasted about 3 minutes before she directed me to CFS. We start in mish, end in doggie, let me finish wherever I wanted. That lasts for about 4 minutes, (again I'm getting old don't judge me). I know this for a fact because I have the clock running on my phone and I hit the timer while she was in the bathroom getting cleaned up. Total time was 7 minutes 16 seconds. Mind you total time might be shorter since I waited for her to get into the bathroom before I hit the timer and that took a few seconds. We did DFK for a bit before and during mish, so she's got no problem with that.

Her rates for me were 120 for a QV, 175 hhr, and 200 HR. These rates may not be the same for you though. She must've been in to me since I sent her a picture before hand, but the client who messaged her after we finished got way higher rates. She told him 250 hhr and 350 hr.

I was like damn, I felt bad paying this girl 120 for a QV, cause overall she was worth 50, maybe 60. But a deal's a deal and I honor deals. Apparently that's a one way street though.

Cause I gave her 120 upfront, but after she tried to upsell on the time she was running around like a chicken with her head cut off. She said she was here for 51 minutes and tried to be cute and charge me for an hour. I'm like naw we had sex for 7 minutes and honestly, I don't have any more money here. She didn't argue with me cause she had a 350 payday coming her way and was ready to race out of the house when I told her she wasn't getting a dime more.

Let's talk about appearance. She's got nice hair and a cute face. But she doesn't look like she looks in the pictures. She's got a bit of a belly on her now and she says it's cause she had surgery, which I hope is true, cause she looked kinda pregnant. She's shaved down under and she's got a pretty flat chest.

Now don't get me wrong, she's a sweet girl. She's not LEO and she's pretty tame. If you're looking for a safe bet in a sea full of scammers you'll at least get something without having to worry about going to jail or someone fishing for a deposit. But overall I wouldn't repeat. Not for money at least. That's just me being honest. Not anywhere near my best conquest. There's better options out there if you can get a hold of any of them.

Now I'm going to whine a bit. I been a silent monger for a long time, never really posted reviews or anything. Just moved to NC from Florida, but I used to be very active when Backpage was still a thing. I must've seen close to a hundred girls during my time in Florida. Don't get me wrong, some were misses, but I'd say the vast majority were high quality dates. But when the Feds shut that down it was like the overall quality of service has dropped and the ease of finding good providers has just gone out the window. I guess I'm just sentimental or something, but I sure do miss Backpage.Are you out of your mind. Don't ever pay more than $60 for a quickie. 80 maybe if anal is included. It's guys like you that make these bitches think they have a golden pussy!

NeedSiteAccess
04-06-21, 09:40
Are you out of your mind. Don't ever pay more than $60 for a quickie. 80 maybe if anal is included. It's guys like you that make these bitches think they have a golden pussy!Let's not get into this whole BS argument again about pricing bruh. People pay what they feel its worth. If you're getting priced out of the game, step up your 9 - 5 or have a date night with your hand. The shit is getting old.

Broader point was this man's first post was outcall versus incall anyway. 95% of ya'll banging hoes for $60 QVs aren't having them drive to you.

As an aside, chick in question does BBFS. OP probably could have negotiated in bare on the BJ or the whole act if he pushed for it.

PleasureSeeker
04-06-21, 09:47
Alright. Had an itch today, so tried to get in contact with Ginger, but got ghosted. So after no response from her I started looking elsewhere.

Saw this girl https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/need-a-real-fantasy-to-come-tr/202212850369 and the experience was kinda unsatisfactory to say the least.

We started talking around 7:30, she said she was on her way and didn't arrive until about 10:05. I asked her how far she lived and she said she lived about 10 minutes from me, so don't expect punctuality.

Took us about 20 minutes just to get started cause she forgot the rubbers in her car and I don't keep any in my house. It's bad luck. Plus she was running back and forth to the bathroom and was kinda like a chicken with her head cut off for a good amount of time there.

She asked me how much time I wanted her for and I told her 15 minutes. Listen guys, I'm getting old and I can't last as long as I did when I was younger, so I'm not about to pay someone for 30 minutes when I know I'm going to be done in 5. Because when you do that, whether you paid for 15,30 or an hour. If you finish in 5, you best believe they're going to clean up and run out that door searching for the next customer.

Anyway, as for the act itself. I'll give ya'll the short version. Everything's covered. She started with a CBJ which lasted about 3 minutes before she directed me to CFS. We start in mish, end in doggie, let me finish wherever I wanted. That lasts for about 4 minutes, (again I'm getting old don't judge me). I know this for a fact because I have the clock running on my phone and I hit the timer while she was in the bathroom getting cleaned up. Total time was 7 minutes 16 seconds. Mind you total time might be shorter since I waited for her to get into the bathroom before I hit the timer and that took a few seconds. We did DFK for a bit before and during mish, so she's got no problem with that...I've been doing this a very long time now, and I have to admit that this is the lowest ebb in choices and quality ever. My theory is it could be tied to the stimulus, which just gave a lot of girls less incentive to bother advertising for a while. I used to live in FL too, BTW, and the real golden age was the lingerie shops which were old fashioned brothels with line ups. Man I miss that.

Raleigh69
04-06-21, 10:37
JNP 4/05/21 you know who that be. And while Smugs has your attention Who knows what the deal is with this one? I Have read whereshe does a hard upsell, but what about that body? Lots of headshots but not to many body shots. http://adultsearch.com/north-carolina/raleigh/female-escorts/2287208.If she's the one that was here years ago, she went by Naughty Nadia.

Leon3798
04-06-21, 17:33
Let's not get into this whole BS argument again about pricing bruh. People pay what they feel its worth. If you're getting priced out of the game, step up your 9 - 5 or have a date night with your hand. The shit is getting old.

Broader point was this man's first post was outcall versus incall anyway. 95% of ya'll banging hoes for $60 QVs aren't having them drive to you.

As an aside, chick in question does BBFS. OP probably could have negotiated in bare on the BJ or the whole act if he pushed for it.Saves me from diving back into it.

Summe4
04-06-21, 22:04
I agree, SA can be a good way to make new friends, but requires more effort. Downside is there is no feedback on girls. I had bad experience with mBlonde there, she was a dream, then tried to rob me LOL.


My advice, and I'm sure a lot of guys would disagree with me on this, is to sign up for one month of Seeking Arrangement. Wait til you find a promo code so you're not paying $90 or whatever they charge. Get as many phone numbers as you can in that 1 month. Still have to look out for scammers, not so much thieves, but the quality of girls you're looking for is there. You probably won't be able to get the white / sorority college girl for the price you're looking for but you can find single moms in their 30's, older milfs, younger black / hispanic girls for 100-250 per meet. It's very 'hit or miss', a lot of it depends on you making the effort but I think you'll have better success with SA than on STG / Eros..

DepressedPsych
04-06-21, 22:18
Hi all,

First time poster. Trying to get in touch with Hayley Muse for a week via email and text. No response. Has anyone experienced her lately. Thanks!

https://www.eros.com/carolinas/files/7995353.htm?cat=4370

TheDudeGuy
04-06-21, 23:31
Was scrolling through providers when Mya came up, remember her years back when I first started doing this hobby and was actually going to be one of the first providers I would have met but didn't due to her reviews being bad due to attitude / performance so, I thought I'll give her a shot to see what would I would have missed. Give her a call and talk about rates, and from there gives me her address. Arrived at hotel and get told to wait for a bit, about 15 minutes later I get told to come to the same floor she's at and then she would give me her room number which I thought was LEO getting ready to bust me but I still went through with it anyways, arrive at the floor and she gives me an actual room number. Open the door to the women in the pictures, nice dark skin and great body. Had makeup on and look good, laid the donation down and start with some small talk. She's really chill person and don't see an attitude from my view. She then she asked me to get to the end of the bed for some CBJ. CBJ was alright, and then ask if I was to go mish or doggy, I already knew at that point she wouldn't do CG but I still ask and says she doesn't get on top, oh well. Get behind for doggy and get a feel for her soft jiggly ass, one of the best asses I seen on a provider in forever. Get behind but she position herself so her I got to thrust up instead of forward. She was on the phone half the time of doggy which sucked but the time she got off the phone, she put in work bouncing that ass on my jimmy which felt and looked amazing. I ask to switch for mish and which was pretty awkward, she doesn't really moan but grunts but got a feel for her water balloon milkers.

Decided to flip her around for some doggy and finished. Hand me some wipes and some small talk and off I go. Overall ok dream, meh CBJ, ok mish, but decent doggy! No GFE, no DATY, imagine Ginger but quarter of the enthusiasm. Hhr $. 2. Great soft body, but felt like I was doing a corpse. Probably won't repeat but she's got a decent ass worth checking out but hey I'm just a Dude, a Guy, TheDudeGuy.

https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/northcarolina/raleigh/60572843/

Member #6388
04-07-21, 01:51
I remember a few months back, a review said this girl was legit, and I didn't want to visit her because she required a deposit. Anyways, I was bored tonight because no provider was responding to me, so I decided I'd give it a shot. I text her, and she asks for a deposit. I figure I'll take one for the team, so I make a new paypal account, and I send her a deposit (using the merchant field). She asks me for any request, and I tell her she can surprise me. She insists, so I tell her a black dress. One minute later she blocks me and starts ignoring me. I'm still not sure why she asked me about special requests when she knew she was going to scam me (maybe to transfer the money from paypal to her account?

Tldr: This girl is a scammer. The review from months ago was likely talking about a different girl, or the girl decided scamming pays better than providing. Also, before I get the "never do deposits", which I think is definitely the BEST practice, and I will not be doing deposit again, I will say that cheyenne ryder uses deposits, and she's real. Moral of this story, wait for another guy to take the hit and review a girl before passing on a deposit.

I still don't have a girl to see tonight.

https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/updated-pics/916332939215

https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/updated-pics/37997847

In case these ads are dead, I've attached her pictures.

JocoGuy007
04-07-21, 07:35
Aside from the "just don't do it, ever" mentality when it comes to deposits, there's an intermediate step for the scenario you describe. Dig deeper into the review you referenced. Was it left by someone with a track record of credible reviews? It's not uncommon for a girl / pimp to create an account to post a fake review or reviews. If the very first review is an overwhelmingly glowing report about a girl who looks too good to be true or who has a history of negative reviews, it's probably a scam. If the reviewer has a few reviews but they are mostly or all about the same girl, ditto. If the ad itself has obvious red flags but a review tells you to see her for a great time, believe the ad.

Leon3798
04-07-21, 08:42
Aside from the "just don't do it, ever" mentality when it comes to deposits, there's an intermediate step for the scenario you describe. Dig deeper into the review you referenced. Was it left by someone with a track record of credible reviews? It's not uncommon for a girl / pimp to create an account to post a fake review or reviews. If the very first review is an overwhelmingly glowing report about a girl who looks too good to be true or who has a history of negative reviews, it's probably a scam. If the reviewer has a few reviews but they are mostly or all about the same girl, ditto. If the ad itself has obvious red flags but a review tells you to see her for a great time, believe the ad.I know there may be some legit girls out there with 'deposits' but this hobby existed before any deposits were needed. I'm not against the new electronic methods, saves me from going out, but I can't get into deposits. I will take the hit to miss out on the few and stay safe with my money.

Ignoramus
04-07-21, 09:00
Today's great time is tomorrow's episode of "I can't believe she ripped me off this time, I thought we were friends. ".


I know there may be some legit girls out there with 'deposits' but this hobby existed before any deposits were needed. I'm not against the new electronic methods, saves me from going out, but I can't get into deposits. I will take the hit to miss out on the few and stay safe with my money.

Ignoramus
04-07-21, 09:16
Look like scanned polaroids from the mid to late-90's. Just sayin. If it's TGTBT.


I remember a few months back, a review said this girl was legit, and I didn't want to visit her because she required a deposit. Anyways, I was bored tonight because no provider was responding to me, so I decided I'd give it a shot. I text her, and she asks for a deposit. I figure I'll take one for the team, so I make a new paypal account, and I send her a deposit (using the merchant field). She asks me for any request, and I tell her she can surprise me. She insists, so I tell her a black dress. One minute later she blocks me and starts ignoring me. I'm still not sure why she asked me about special requests when she knew she was going to scam me (maybe to transfer the money from paypal to her account?

Tldr: This girl is a scammer. The review from months ago was likely talking about a different girl, or the girl decided scamming pays better than providing. Also, before I get the "never do deposits", which I think is definitely the BEST practice, and I will not be doing deposit again, I will say that cheyenne ryder uses deposits, and she's real. Moral of this story, wait for another guy to take the hit and review a girl before passing on a deposit.

I still don't have a girl to see tonight.

https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/updated-pics/916332939215

https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/updated-pics/37997847

In case these ads are dead, I've attached her pictures.

Ignoramus
04-07-21, 09:20
Yes, one of my regs just went offline but we still text, she did not give a reason why she is not posting for the first time in months but you know it's because they just got $1400 plus whatever for however many stray rugrats they are claiming as dependents!


I've been doing this a very long time now, and I have to admit that this is the lowest ebb in choices and quality ever. My theory is it could be tied to the stimulus, which just gave a lot of girls less incentive to bother advertising for a while. I used to live in FL too, BTW, and the real golden age was the lingerie shops which were old fashioned brothels with line ups. Man I miss that.

TheInfJester
04-07-21, 09:41
Have any of you seen Blair Parker?

https://www.slixa.com/north-carolina/raleigh/blairparker

She's got one positive review on TER that's recent, and a bunch of positive from a year or so back. Are any of you able to give me additional info? Is she GFE?

Alternately, are any of you able to offer an alternative? Petite (ish), GFE, and available for outcall?

Thanks!

Jester.

Leon3798
04-07-21, 10:02
Elm 4-7-21.

Tawayem
04-07-21, 10:21
Elm 4-7-21.Beat me to it. Was going to post the same.

Really unfortunate, and IMO she's a good provider too.

AshWink
04-07-21, 10:41
Elm 4-7-21.Where is it?

AshWink
04-07-21, 11:44
Beat me to it. Was going to post the same.

Really unfortunate, and IMO she's a good provider too.Could you share the profile link?

Raleih
04-07-21, 12:08
Has anyone had any experience with this one. Looks TGTBT.

https://adultsearch.com/north-carolina/raleigh/female-escorts/2076006

AshWink
04-07-21, 12:29
Beat me to it. Was going to post the same.

Really unfortunate, and IMO she's a good provider too.Could you share the profile link?

Ignoramus
04-07-21, 12:34
That's not ruby is it? Haven't met her yet.


Beat me to it. Was going to post the same.

Really unfortunate, and IMO she's a good provider too.

Leon3798
04-07-21, 12:50
I've been doing this a very long time now, and I have to admit that this is the lowest ebb in choices and quality ever. My theory is it could be tied to the stimulus, which just gave a lot of girls less incentive to bother advertising for a while. I used to live in FL too, BTW, and the real golden age was the lingerie shops which were old fashioned brothels with line ups. Man I miss that.That sounds awesome actually. I'm still baffled why this is illegal here. As long as its consenting adults I don't see the problem but whatever.

Job70
04-07-21, 13:52
I'm not recognizing her.

J.


Beat me to it. Was going to post the same.

Really unfortunate, and IMO she's a good provider too.

Leon3798
04-07-21, 13:54
I'm not recognizing her.

J.https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/northcarolina/raleigh/60466420/

Tawayem
04-07-21, 13:59
So this is a little early, but I kinda wanted to get started since I imagine the search could take some time.

My birthday is next month, and I was kinda hoping to make an overnight appointment with a provider. Primary requirement for me would be GFE. And my budget would be between 1 k to 1. 5 k, maybe stretch by another hundred or two if someone can convince me a certain provider is absolutely worth it. Looking for someone in mid / late 20's or early 30's, would prefer no demons.

Any recommendations? So far the only one that seems to fit in my mind is Fiona Ender, although her being situated in Fayetteville sorta complicates matters. I thought about Samara but the senior member requirement kinda eliminates me, unless someone would be willing to talk to her about this.

Unfortunately I'm not a member of BKS / SA and I might be taking a break from the hobby after so I don't see the membership costs for those as justified for me as of this moment.

Anyway, if anyone has any suggestions please let me know, either here on the forum or via PM.

Thanks!

Noel01
04-07-21, 14:47
Hi all,

First time poster. Trying to get in touch with Hayley Muse for a week via email and text. No response. Has anyone experienced her lately. Thanks!

https://www.eros.com/carolinas/files/7995353.htm?cat=4370She's awesome full GFE.

Really fun time.

Member #6388
04-07-21, 15:08
Today's great time is tomorrow's episode of "I can't believe she ripped me off this time, I thought we were friends. ".Cold, but true advice. Never do deposits; never give a provider "gas money", "food money", or "room money". I'm still relatively new to the hobby, so I'm still getting guilt tripped, but the more I experience the more I realize the older members on this forum know best from experience.

If you want to help, volunteer at a soup kitchen or give money to Unbound. They help people that need it, but haven't fallen to cheating or lying.

I don't even remember the review, and I can't seem to find it. It was months ago, but I remember because I was skeptical, but I guess a bit a bullet, so the rest of you won't have to.

Sorinex
04-07-21, 17:46
Can someone PM me Samara's info? I PMed one member but never got a response. Thanks in advance.

MrMrb072
04-07-21, 17:53
Alright. Had an itch today, so tried to get in contact with Ginger, but got ghosted. So after no response from her I started looking elsewhere.

Saw this girl https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/need-a-real-fantasy-to-come-tr/202212850369 and the experience was kinda unsatisfactory to say the least.

We started talking around 7:30, she said she was on her way and didn't arrive until about 10:05. I asked her how far she lived and she said she lived about 10 minutes from me, so don't expect punctuality.

Took us about 20 minutes just to get started cause she forgot the rubbers in her car and I don't keep any in my house. It's bad luck. Plus she was running back and forth to the bathroom and was kinda like a chicken with her head cut off for a good amount of time there.

She asked me how much time I wanted her for and I told her 15 minutes. Listen guys, I'm getting old and I can't last as long as I did when I was younger, so I'm not about to pay someone for 30 minutes when I know I'm going to be done in 5. Because when you do that, whether you paid for 15,30 or an hour. If you finish in 5, you best believe they're going to clean up and run out that door searching for the next customer.

Anyway, as for the act itself. I'll give ya'll the short version. Everything's covered. She started with a CBJ which lasted about 3 minutes before she directed me to CFS. We start in mish, end in doggie, let me finish wherever I wanted. That lasts for about 4 minutes, (again I'm getting old don't judge me). I know this for a fact because I have the clock running on my phone and I hit the timer while she was in the bathroom getting cleaned up. Total time was 7 minutes 16 seconds. Mind you total time might be shorter since I waited for her to get into the bathroom before I hit the timer and that took a few seconds. We did DFK for a bit before and during mish, so she's got no problem with that.Completely out of it by doing DFK anyways she's a great person have seen her but when she pulled out the needle it was over for then seen all the spots on her legs saying she had a skin problem yea right I'm not taken any chances especially would've did DFK or anything close to that.

Raleigh69
04-07-21, 18:13
So this is a little early, but I kinda wanted to get started since I imagine the search could take some time.

My birthday is next month, and I was kinda hoping to make an overnight appointment with a provider. Primary requirement for me would be GFE. And my budget would be between 1 k to 1. 5 k, maybe stretch by another hundred or two if someone can convince me a certain provider is absolutely worth it. Looking for someone in mid / late 20's or early 30's, would prefer no demons.

Any recommendations? So far the only one that seems to fit in my mind is Fiona Ender, although her being situated in Fayetteville sorta complicates matters. I thought about Samara but the senior member requirement kinda eliminates me, unless someone would be willing to talk to her about this.

Unfortunately I'm not a member of BKS / SA and I might be taking a break from the hobby after so I don't see the membership costs for those as justified for me as of this moment.

Anyway, if anyone has any suggestions please let me know, either here on the forum or via PM.

Thanks!I don't know anyone I would give 4 figures and hoped they stayed all night. With or without demons they are going to want to sleep most of the night, spend hours in the bathroom, and leave early to see their dealer or a "friend". I would determine how long they were going to stay and pay as you went along. That way when they get a phone call and have to leave or cop an attitude, your not out the whole amount.

PartTimeMonger
04-07-21, 18:22
I don't know anyone I would give 4 figures and hoped they stayed all night. With or without demons they are going to want to sleep most of the night, spend hours in the bathroom, and leave early to see their dealer or a "friend". I would determine how long they were going to stay and pay as you went along. That way when they get a phone call and have to leave or cop an attitude, your not out the whole amount.I agree with what he said. For that much you could get 2 really pricey girls. I'll PM you some that I am thinking about.

John Whitman
04-07-21, 18:36
I sent you a PM.


Can someone PM me Samara's info? I PMed one member but never got a response. Thanks in advance.

Pubb69
04-07-21, 20:53
So this is a little early, but I kinda wanted to get started since I imagine the search could take some time.

My birthday is next month, and I was kinda hoping to make an overnight appointment with a provider. Primary requirement for me would be GFE. And my budget would be between 1 k to 1. 5 k, maybe stretch by another hundred or two if someone can convince me a certain provider is absolutely worth it. Looking for someone in mid / late 20's or early 30's, would prefer no demons.

Any recommendations? So far the only one that seems to fit in my mind is Fiona Ender, although her being situated in Fayetteville sorta complicates matters. I thought about Samara but the senior member requirement kinda eliminates me, unless someone would be willing to talk to her about this.

Unfortunately I'm not a member of BKS / SA and I might be taking a break from the hobby after so I don't see the membership costs for those as justified for me as of this moment.

Anyway, if anyone has any suggestions please let me know, either here on the forum or via PM.

Thanks!Do not do an overnight with any escort. Your throwing your money away and will end up disappointed, always remember we pay them to leave and a couple hours with a hooker is maximum that anyone should spend. Overnights are for non professionals or girlfriends.

Mrtlc50
04-07-21, 21:24
Thought this girl was legit but should have known better. Asked for deposit using friends and family. Wen I sent she said bookings were filled I had to send more money but I already had her address and cash. Which I told her. She didn't want cash and said that's not how it works. Then when I said this was a scam and I was calling my bank she said their were snippers around me and if I wanted to get out alive I better leave. A big scam so don't waste your money. I hate that so many are playing games and wasting peoples time.

https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/dont-hit-me-up-for-games/38456449

Member #6388
04-07-21, 22:30
So this is a little early, but I kinda wanted to get started since I imagine the search could take some time.

My birthday is next month, and I was kinda hoping to make an overnight appointment with a provider. Primary requirement for me would be GFE. And my budget would be between 1 k to 1. 5 k, maybe stretch by another hundred or two if someone can convince me a certain provider is absolutely worth it. Looking for someone in mid / late 20's or early 30's, would prefer no demons.

Any recommendations? So far the only one that seems to fit in my mind is Fiona Ender, although her being situated in Fayetteville sorta complicates matters. I thought about Samara but the senior member requirement kinda eliminates me, unless someone would be willing to talk to her about this.

Unfortunately I'm not a member of BKS / SA and I might be taking a break from the hobby after so I don't see the membership costs for those as justified for me as of this moment.

Anyway, if anyone has any suggestions please let me know, either here on the forum or via PM.

Thanks!I agree with most of the other members. Doing overnight isn't really all that great when one provider is going to get tired or bored or hungry. If you really want to treat yourself, set up a night with multiple providers either together or separately. You should be able to see 5/6 providers with your budget.

Anyways, I was going to recommend charity bangs. When I saw her, I didn't do anything special with her, but she's pretty much open to anything (she's got outfits and toys too). I don't think your budget covers an overnight (again don't recommend it anyways), but you could see her and 1 or 2 other really good providers in one night.

Alabaster23
04-07-21, 23:19
Yes. I have seen Blair a number of times. I have been meaning to write a review. She's great. Totally GFE. She has a daytime job. She does this because she enjoys it, not because she must (well the daytime job would not support her shoe habit). She's open to most everything except Greek or bb. Time with her feels like a date, not a service.


Have any of you seen Blair Parker?

https://www.slixa.com/north-carolina/raleigh/blairparker

She's got one positive review on TER that's recent, and a bunch of positive from a year or so back. Are any of you able to give me additional info? Is she GFE?

Alternately, are any of you able to offer an alternative? Petite (ish), GFE, and available for outcall?

Thanks!

Jester.

Alabaster23
04-07-21, 23:48
Completely disagree with previous posters. I do agree that you wouldn't want an overnight with most providers. I believe it was Charlie Sheen who said: "You aren't paying them to come, you are paying them to leave. ".

Fiona is different. I think she advertises overnights because she prefers them. For an overnight, I bet she would do an outcall to Raleigh. If you use her incall, know that she recently acquired a king size bed and installed a chandelier. There is a small 'fridge in her room with beer, wine, and soft drinks. She is a light sleeper. She will go as often as you can manage. She'll spoon with you while you sleep. She was a professional chef. Tell her its your birthday. She might bake you a cake.


So this is a little early, but I kinda wanted to get started since I imagine the search could take some time.

My birthday is next month, and I was kinda hoping to make an overnight appointment with a provider. Primary requirement for me would be GFE. And my budget would be between 1 k to 1. 5 k, maybe stretch by another hundred or two if someone can convince me a certain provider is absolutely worth it. Looking for someone in mid / late 20's or early 30's, would prefer no demons.

Any recommendations? So far the only one that seems to fit in my mind is Fiona Ender, although her being situated in Fayetteville sorta complicates matters. I thought about Samara but the senior member requirement kinda eliminates me, unless someone would be willing to talk to her about this.

Unfortunately I'm not a member of BKS / SA and I might be taking a break from the hobby after so I don't see the membership costs for those as justified for me as of this moment.

Anyway, if anyone has any suggestions please let me know, either here on the forum or via PM.

Thanks!

Shadows1517
04-08-21, 00:02
At the risk of being called out for posting about someone not in Raleigh, I want to seize on the recent laments about prices and lack of BBFS options in our fair city. Also, from top to bottom, travel time within Wake County can exceed an hour (I'm in Wake Forest so I experience this). From my place to Emma' incall location on Burlington was 61 miles and took less than an hour. You can see some dated reviews on her in TER and them, and perhaps others.

Just returned from a visit with Miss Emma. She is not a young spinner type, and she has a MILF body type after having kids. Lovely natural titties with nipples that still point north, or at least no where near south. Cute little butt as well.

Briefly, very engaging and talkative with ease. No signs of the demons that are rampant here in our city with so many providers on the County arrest reports lately. I asked what her rules are, and her response was that she is pretty open to most anything as long as we guys are respectful. Worked for me. Chatted a bit on the bed. She took off her clothes and I tried to keep pace. Without any prompt, great (imo) BBBJ for starters. Paused a but and had FIV, and pussy play. Sucked on her nipples and found her clean smelling, soft and responsive as her nipples are obviously sensitive. On to mish for a good bit, and finished with some excellent CG. Fellas, all of this was BB, and included a CIP ending. 1 hour for $$.

Granted Wednesday night, and drove to Burlington. But no ghosting run from one possibility to another, responsive to texts from the start. Text when close, then another with to the room instructions. Her incall is a lower level hotel within a five iron shot of three mid level name brand hotels so it's not the ritz. She's sweet an talkative and fun to play with but not the neatest person with the suitcase out & some laundry clearly visible.

https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/i-m-in-side-in-burlington/36550893

Megapersonals. Eu / public / post_detail /11872030.

Pics are accurate but hair is a darker shade, less Red.

She's asked me to update her phone number in them, so I'm sure she would not mind if I share with you via PM if you can't get it off sumo. Will put this in the bareback thread as well.

Enjoy!

Zman429
04-08-21, 07:03
I used to see Crystal Blue Persuasion which slowly evolved into overnights we'd start at 8 drinking Crown Royal then later smoking weed pass out around 2 and go out for breakfast in the morning. She went out of the game six years ago. Damn I miss that. The point is that it evolved and we enjoyed each other's company.

TheInfJester
04-08-21, 07:18
One more time, for the kids in the back of the bus:

Never. Pay. A. Deposit.

Never.

Doesn't matter how awesome her pictures are.

Doesn't matter how sexy her voice was on the phone.

Doesn't matter what she promised you.

Doesn't matter how many times you've seen her before.

Doesn't matter that she needs a sitter, gas money, snack money, uber fare, a drink, or a pack of chips.

Never pay a deposit.


Thought this girl was legit but should have known better. Asked for deposit using friends and family. Wen I sent she said bookings were filled I had to send more money but I already had her address and cash. Which I told her. She didn't want cash and said that's not how it works. Then when I said this was a scam and I was calling my bank she said their were snippers around me and if I wanted to get out alive I better leave. A big scam so don't waste your money. I hate that so many are playing games and wasting peoples time.

https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/dont-hit-me-up-for-games/38456449

Nathan123
04-08-21, 07:24
Looking for a mature UTR for Garner Raleigh area tonight, special treat for myself, pm me with recommendations, thanks.

Member #1552
04-08-21, 07:32
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/northcarolina/raleighdurham/60630154/

This one seemed TGTBT and in a way was. 100/ hh 200/ hr.

Good text response, location given, time agreed to.

She was recently in Charlotte so checked that board found a review and sent a PM to the reviewer. Everything checked out.

Lying about her age but who cares pics are real, body is amazing.

She was very nice. From Argentina, enough English to get by.

Came to the door in black lingerie which was nice.

The not so great, while I'm pretty proud of my equipment I'm no pornstar. That being said she absolutely could not take it all.

Position didn't matter it wasn't happening. I really wanted to beat that pussy up!

Finished with CBJ. Her Oral skills are very good.

Makes me wonder how many Ads that seem TGTBT are legit especially the Latina and Brazilian ones.

Asked her how long she would be here and she was unsure said she was a tourist.

As always YMMV.

Nateman
04-08-21, 09:12
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/northcarolina/raleighdurham/60630154/

This one seemed TGTBT and in a way was. 100/ hh 200/ hr.

Good text response, location given, time agreed to.

She was recently in Charlotte so checked that board found a review and sent a PM to the reviewer. Everything checked out.

Lying about her age but who cares pics are real, body is amazing.

She was very nice. From Argentina, enough English to get by.

Came to the door in black lingerie which was nice.

The not so great, while I'm pretty proud of my equipment I'm no pornstar. That being said she absolutely could not take it all.

Position didn't matter it wasn't happening. I really wanted to beat that pussy up!

Finished with CBJ. Her Oral skills are very good.

Makes me wonder how many Ads that seem TGTBT are legit especially the Latina and Brazilian ones.

Asked her how long she would be here and she was unsure said she was a tourist.

As always YMMV.What was the damage?

Leon3798
04-08-21, 09:15
One more time, for the kids in the back of the bus:

Never. Pay. A. Deposit.

Never.

Doesn't matter how awesome her pictures are.

Doesn't matter how sexy her voice was on the phone.

Doesn't matter what she promised you.

Doesn't matter how many times you've seen her before.

Doesn't matter that she needs a sitter, gas money, snack money, uber fare, a drink, or a pack of chips.

Never pay a deposit.How many times are you going to fall for this guys? We preach about it ALL the time. You're not 'the one' to save her. You're not special she's not going to date you for real. She wants your money plain and simple. Don't give up your earned money.

Member #6388
04-08-21, 09:51
What was the damage?OP mentioned it at the beginning of his post. Thank you for being explicit by the way and not using some weird code. Hh is 100 and hour is 200.

I reached out to this girl a few days ago. From my communications, I don't think she does kissing, and she said okay to bbj for $50 more.

PleasureSeeker
04-08-21, 10:02
That sounds awesome actually. I'm still baffled why this is illegal here. As long as its consenting adults I don't see the problem but whatever.They were dotted all over town in FL. You walk in and the girls line up and you get to choose who you like. Some places they'd come to a small room with a couch and sit on your lap and try to entice you, one after the other. On more than one occasion the action started then and there by an eager girl. Why can't Raleigh do this? It's just lingerie modeling!

Krasner
04-08-21, 10:36
Yes. I have seen Blair a number of times. I have been meaning to write a review. She's great. Totally GFE. She has a daytime job. She does this because she enjoys it, not because she must (well the daytime job would not support her shoe habit). She's open to most everything except Greek or bb. Time with her feels like a date, not a service.What was the damage?

Bb211
04-08-21, 12:02
What was the damage?Was BBJ offered? Just kissing and CBJ go for QV. Beautiful girl judging from the pics.

Parabola
04-08-21, 12:12
Same here. Have tried texting her several times over the last couple weeks when her status on Eros showed "available" but nada.

Communication with her seemed normal initially and I submitted a couple references at her request but haven't gotten any kind of response since. It had me wondering if a reference gave some bad feedback about me and she had me blacklisted or blocked but that seemed unlikely as those are providers I have seen several times (and were happy to provide me a reference) and I'm always a nice guy. But I still couldn't think of another reason why she wouldn't respond. At any rate, I'm glad to know it's not just me. Maybe these girls ARE that busy? Who knows.


Hi all,

First time poster. Trying to get in touch with Hayley Muse for a week via email and text. No response. Has anyone experienced her lately. Thanks!

https://www.eros.com/carolinas/files/7995353.htm?cat=4370

ILikeTheLadies
04-08-21, 12:42
Once again, always a pleasure. Shared time with her on several dates and her most recent Raleigh visit was especially fun. Stacy is a mature and sexy 'Jennifer Anniston' with hot legs, smooth lips, soft hands and responsive "everything's". She knows how I like her sleek body and dresses to emphasize it. She often greets me with a hand-prepared snack and feeds it to me as we relax on her couch, chat and makeup for lost time. Her incall is always easily accessible, mid to upper scale, clean and private. She is adventurous, fun and attentive. Never distracted with phones or texts. Great kisses and stellar moves whether she's taking charge or responding to your ideas. She will find your hot buttons and use them. YMMV but your time should be always be enjoyable. She deserves respect from all callers. She is a rare find in an otherwise disappointing field of RDU pyrite. https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/sexy-stacy-highly-reviewed-u/520121448599 Donations are as advertised.

JonnyBBad
04-08-21, 12:55
Guys, watch out! Following ad is fake, pretty sure it's a dude.

https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/northcarolina/raleigh/60665686/

SoGent64
04-08-21, 15:40
I contacted 8 girls with listings on Adult Search, all attractive, and exchanged texts with them. EVERY single one of them either wanted a deposit or gift cards. None would take cash. Re the gift cards they wanted info on the card to check the amount which would give them access to the cash on the card. I declined on all of them as they are probably all scammers. Maybe a give away is they only asked for $200 for 1 hr.

Anyway, trying to find an honest provider these days is getting near impossible. Fortunately I have a couple of honest providers who are regulars.

Good luck out there but beware the deposits and gift cards, don't do it.

Rob68
04-08-21, 15:43
I couldn't even get her to reply back. Maybe I'm to old for her. Who knows.


Completely disagree with previous posters. I do agree that you wouldn't want an overnight with most providers. I believe it was Charlie Sheen who said: "You aren't paying them to come, you are paying them to leave. ".

Fiona is different. I think she advertises overnights because she prefers them. For an overnight, I bet she would do an outcall to Raleigh. If you use her incall, know that she recently acquired a king size bed and installed a chandelier. There is a small 'fridge in her room with beer, wine, and soft drinks. She is a light sleeper. She will go as often as you can manage. She'll spoon with you while you sleep. She was a professional chef. Tell her its your birthday. She might bake you a cake.

ILoveDeams
04-08-21, 16:04
Should have realized she was a cashapp scam, pics was TGTBT. I declined as soon as she asked for the payment, but she continued to convince me she was real LOL!! Anyone fallen for it?

https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/black_caribbean/porsche/138950283372

Leon3798
04-08-21, 16:06
Should have realized she was a cashapp scam, pics was TGTBT. I declined as soon as she asked for the payment, but she continued to convince me she was real LOL!! Anyone fallen for it?

https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/black_caribbean/porsche/138950283372My man. Thats how you do it. Deposit?? Nope. The end.

TheCommand
04-08-21, 18:54
Apparently she is back, anyone want to TOFTT?

https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/highly-skilled-and-favored/771843971127

CliffWilder
04-08-21, 19:05
Anyone traveling through Wilson or want to make a short road trip. Go see this girl. Sweet girl, attractive face and an outstanding BBJ. Deep and sloppy and will let you get a little rough with it. Told me to grab her by the back of her head so I complied and had fun with it. Location is a little seedy but I've been a few times now and no issues. Everyone pretty much keeps to their selves. She makes sure you leave happy.

https://rocky-mount.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/fuck-my-pussy-andor-throat-slo/954339617596

Rapk9394
04-08-21, 19:44
Apparently she is back, anyone want to TOFTT?

https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/highly-skilled-and-favored/771843971127Is this the real Nikki? I recall some scammers stole her picture and post on stg before.

DepressedPsych
04-08-21, 20:13
Same here. Have tried texting her several times over the last couple weeks when her status on Eros showed "available" but nada.

Communication with her seemed normal initially and I submitted a couple references at her request but haven't gotten any kind of response since. It had me wondering if a reference gave some bad feedback about me and she had me blacklisted or blocked but that seemed unlikely as those are providers I have seen several times (and were happy to provide me a reference) and I'm always a nice guy. But I still couldn't think of another reason why she wouldn't respond. At any rate, I'm glad to know it's not just me. Maybe these girls ARE that busy? Who knows.If she is not in the game, she should take her ad down. Man, I was planning for her for a while. Well, hope she comes back at some point.

Tawayem
04-08-21, 20:26
Apparently she is back, anyone want to TOFTT?

https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/highly-skilled-and-favored/771843971127The ad specifies a requirement of a deposit. I don't think anyone will toftt unless that's waived.

LuvTheLadeez
04-08-21, 21:03
Can anyone with experience with Blair PM me what the damage was? She seems to be a pretty penny.

Parabola
04-08-21, 21:49
The ad specifies a requirement of a deposit. I don't think anyone will toftt unless that's waived.Deposit required, going by the name "karae". Just don't, guys. Like an earlier poster said, it's probably a scammer using her pics.

Alabaster23
04-08-21, 22:33
I've known her a while and sometimes can't get in touch. She advertises as "senior friendly ". So I doubt it's age. I suggest persistence.


I couldn't even get her to reply back. Maybe I'm to old for her. Who knows.

Lookin Good
04-08-21, 23:01
The not so great, while I'm pretty proud of my equipment I'm no pornstar. That being said she absolutely could not take it all.

Position didn't matter it wasn't happening. I really wanted to beat that pussy up!

Someone needs to show these ladies some Piper Perri videos and tell them to quit being drama queens. You fuck for a living. Learn to take the dick for fuck's sake.

KimStranger
04-09-21, 00:06
Deposit required, going by the name "karae". Just don't, guys. Like an earlier poster said, it's probably a scammer using her pics.That's what I also believe. I've seen her before and she has many rules like for example no touching her pussy, no kissing and definitely no GFE.

Rapk9394
04-09-21, 10:46
Visited Tina in Durham last week for a qv. Her pictures are very flattering. She looks older in person and shows signs of an user. Only one position allowed and just keep rushing me to finish and leave. Will not repeat.

https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/northcarolina/raleighdurham/60687900/

MrMrb072
04-09-21, 18:39
Anyone traveling through Wilson or want to make a short road trip. Go see this girl. Sweet girl, attractive face and an outstanding BBJ. Deep and sloppy and will let you get a little rough with it. Told me to grab her by the back of her head so I complied and had fun with it. Location is a little seedy but I've been a few times now and no issues. Everyone pretty much keeps to their selves. She makes sure you leave happy.

https://rocky-mount.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/fuck-my-pussy-andor-throat-slo/954339617596I'm always down for some action inbox me and I'll send you pvt number.

TheInfJester
04-09-21, 19:29
https://www.slixa.com/north-carolina/raleigh/blairparker

I spent some time with Blair last night. She's classy, fun, and interesting to talk to. Service was very GFE, her pictures are accurate, and her head game is absolutely on point. She's not a clock watcher, and she didn't waste any time in getting down to business. Communication was easy and timely, and verification was easy.

I felt my time and money were both well spent. I plan to repeat, and definitely recommend.

Jester.

WitchDoc99
04-09-21, 20:49
Hello fellow mongeroids! I'm new to the area and stay on the side of Fuquay and want to know if there is a place or area that I can get my freak on after a massage if you know what I mean. I would really appreciate it.

ILikeBaseball2
04-09-21, 23:05
Visited Tina in Durham last week for a qv. Her pictures are very flattering. She looks older in person and shows signs of an user. Only one position allowed and just keep rushing me to finish and leave. Will not repeat.

https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/northcarolina/raleighdurham/60687900/I like how her ad headline says "no rush" and that's exactly what happened to you. Another case of false advertising. Just terrible. She's been reviewed before on here somewhere. Sorry you went through this. Bounce back and stay safe.

Jb121
04-10-21, 00:59
https://www.slixa.com/north-carolina/raleigh/blairparker

I spent some time with Blair last night. She's classy, fun, and interesting to talk to. Service was very GFE, her pictures are accurate, and her head game is absolutely on point. She's not a clock watcher, and she didn't waste any time in getting down to business. Communication was easy and timely, and verification was easy.

I felt my time and money were both well spent. I plan to repeat, and definitely recommend.

Jester.Thanks for the info, plan to visit her this weekend, what's the damage?

Shadows1517
04-10-21, 01:38
Hey All,

Won't go by name, except to say she is oft discussed on here as much more than a Rub Provider and works days in RTP.

It has been said of her that the door opened and the woman was short, fat and ugly. Several guys refuted this so I was like ok, consensus rules.

Also often said that she does on look like some or most of her pics. Or that they are her, but several years and pounds ago. Ok I can live with that. Also said she's not a BBW.

The other common thread is that she provides one hell of a good service from the minute you arrive until she's gotten MSOG out of you. Definitely like that. Eager, enthusiastic, loves men and cum and often BBFS after BBBJ. .

Set up an appointment for my rub (wink wink) at her incall, 4:00 pm (only works M-F 10-5). Per request to confirm by 2:00 today, I did so at Noon. Got the address. She asked me to let her know when I was on my way. 3:25, texted I was 20-25 minutes away (20 mile ride). 11 minutes before 4, receive text she is "running late" Asks if I can do a later time. Back & forth and say 5:15 when she offered 5/5:15. I asked if she would be fresh and ready. She suggests rescheduling to next week. (The little guy is going to be pissed!- LOL).

So 15 minutes after I gave my expected arrival, first time I hear running late. Spent 8 minutes deciding what late meant and if she could be ready, Obviously not bobbing on a willie at that time. So why late?

I figure someone one with more money, or a regular bought / took my 4:00 spot. She wasn't too busy to text just before 4. Personally, I find this rude, and deceptive. Just tell me the truth. Then make me an offer for something better that we had booked.

After all the hype about how wonderfully sweet she is and how she goes at it with gusto, I got pushed out of line. Not happy.

**Anyone else get this from someone who by all accounts was upfront and kind, etc. - you know "the customer cums first. Twice if she can make it happen. ** kind of enthusiasm.

What's the point of the scheduling process if it doesn't matter? 40 miles round trip, begged off work early, and went home wanting to bust all over her.

Tempting to add a similar review in TER and them. I have higher expectations of $$ for an hour plus the drive and the gas to get the offer. What am I missing? She not like 59 yo Caucasians? When the offices are open I work damn near where she make her living. Maybe enough IBM, Lenovo, and other Techies are taking long lunches and Having the low cal why spread for lunch. Also was uncomfortable at the thought of having the opportunity to be the 8-10th bare rail car in the train pulling through her tunnel on her 7 hour shift. Comments on that? It sounded so hot, with so many 7,8, and 9 ratings on performance that it was a no brainer (small brainer? Enought to forgive the 4,5, & 6 ratings on looks. Overall Comments, please? Another chance of just not in the club?

AsianFlyer32
04-10-21, 08:56
Going to be in the area for a few weeks. Any good providers near the brier creek area? Tia.

Shadows1517
04-10-21, 13:02
Tried to book another visit with Layla last night. Heard back from her pretty quickly.

In her words, she is "no longer taking appointments". She is focused on getting started on onlyfans, and is selling pics and vids instead of meeting 1:1. Said her decision was not based on anything bad happening, just she "needed a break and decided to quit".

And so, the pickin' get slimmer.

Who's buying all these girls' pics & vids and prefers to jerkoff instead of spending time with a "stacked" flesh & blood very wet BBBJ and wet cfs woman? They're changing the market!

Ugh!

PleasureSeeker
04-10-21, 13:22
Hey All,

Won't go by name, except to say she is oft discussed on here as much more than a Rub Provider and works days in RTP.

It has been said of her that the door opened and the woman was short, fat and ugly. Several guys refuted this so I was like ok, consensus rules.

Also often said that she does on look like some or most of her pics. Or that they are her, but several years and pounds ago. Ok I can live with that. Also said she's not a BBW.

The other common thread is that she provides one hell of a good service from the minute you arrive until she's gotten MSOG out of you. Definitely like that. Eager, enthusiastic, loves men and cum and often BBFS after BBBJ. .

Set up an appointment for my rub (wink wink) at her incall, 4:00 pm (only works M-F 10-5). Per request to confirm by 2:00 today, I did so at Noon. Got the address. She asked me to let her know when I was on my way. 3:25, texted I was 20-25 minutes away (20 mile ride). 11 minutes before 4, receive text she is "running late" Asks if I can do a later time. Back & forth and say 5:15 when she offered 5/5:15. I asked if she would be fresh and ready. She suggests rescheduling to next week. (The little guy is going to be pissed!- LOL).Try posting a link dude.

Pubb69
04-10-21, 13:52
Hey All,

Won't go by name, except to say she is oft discussed on here as much more than a Rub Provider and works days in RTP.

It has been said of her that the door opened and the woman was short, fat and ugly. Several guys refuted this so I was like ok, consensus rules.

Also often said that she does on look like some or most of her pics. Or that they are her, but several years and pounds ago. Ok I can live with that. Also said she's not a BBW.

The other common thread is that she provides one hell of a good service from the minute you arrive until she's gotten MSOG out of you. Definitely like that. Eager, enthusiastic, loves men and cum and often BBFS after BBBJ. .

Set up an appointment for my rub (wink wink) at her incall, 4:00 pm (only works M-F 10-5). Per request to confirm by 2:00 today, I did so at Noon. Got the address. She asked me to let her know when I was on my way. 3:25, texted I was 20-25 minutes away (20 mile ride). 11 minutes before 4, receive text she is "running late" Asks if I can do a later time. Back & forth and say 5:15 when she offered 5/5:15. I asked if she would be fresh and ready. She suggests rescheduling to next week. (The little guy is going to be pissed!- LOL).That you would ask about giving her another chance. Unless hobbying has made you lose your self respect, a simple text back the very first time telling her to fuck off and get lost should have been your one and only response. You lost a half day out of your life chasing a hooker and you actually are considering doing it again?

Lookin Good
04-10-21, 15:34
Won't go by name, except to say she is oft discussed on here as much more than a Rub Provider and works days in RTP.
I know who you're talking about but others may not, so I'll pick up your slack.

Vickie.

https://raleigh.rubratings.com/121681

Lookin Good
04-10-21, 15:44
That you would ask about giving her another chance. Unless hobbying has made you lose your self respect, a simple text back the very first time telling her to fuck off and get lost should have been your one and only response. You lost a half day out of your life chasing a hooker and you actually are considering doing it again?We always say DO. NOT. DO. A. DEPOSIT! Yet we're always seeing guys posting about getting taken.

We always say don't chase hookers or beg to spend your money. MOVE. ON! Yet we're constantly seeing guys complain about someone's poor communication and others saying "keep trying". NO! If their phone stops ringing maybe they'll get their act together.

We're always seeing guys post reviews that start with "despite her questionable reviews, I decided to give her a shot" then proceed to describe a shitty time. Hello, McFly!

It'll never change, my man. It'll never change.

LuvTheLadeez
04-10-21, 15:53
Anyone have Intel on a lady that might do some dancing or put on a show for a small group? Say 3 guys?

RedPill71
04-10-21, 15:54
I've seen Vickie a total of 3 or 4 times now.

First of all everything that's been said about her performance is spot on. She genuinely appears to enjoy what she does. She is probably over 40, and given that she is somebody I'd be proud to be seen with in public. She's quite cute with a bright smile and open personality. But she's also probably not going to be seen wearing a bikini to the beach. I also found her to be very articulate and easy to talk to and absolutely no signs of demons or smoking.

You had a bad experience trying to hook up with her at a risky time-slot (I. E. End of the day). You should also consider that it might not have been her decision entirely, if you get my drift.

I realize that guys come on here and rail on the girls when stuff like this happens. But whether some of these guys like it or not, the good ones like Vickie will be just fine without them. You, on the other hand, can do much worse around here these days depending of course on what you are looking for.


Hey All,

Won't go by name, except to say she is oft discussed on here as much more than a Rub Provider and works days in RTP.

It has been said of her that the door opened and the woman was short, fat and ugly. Several guys refuted this so I was like ok, consensus rules.

Also often said that she does on look like some or most of her pics. Or that they are her, but several years and pounds ago. Ok I can live with that. Also said she's not a BBW.

The other common thread is that she provides one hell of a good service from the minute you arrive until she's gotten MSOG out of you. Definitely like that. Eager, enthusiastic, loves men and cum and often BBFS after BBBJ. .

Set up an appointment for my rub (wink wink) at her incall, 4:00 pm (only works M-F 10-5). Per request to confirm by 2:00 today, I did so at Noon. Got the address. She asked me to let her know when I was on my way. 3:25, texted I was 20-25 minutes away (20 mile ride). 11 minutes before 4, receive text she is "running late" Asks if I can do a later time. Back & forth and say 5:15 when she offered 5/5:15. I asked if she would be fresh and ready. She suggests rescheduling to next week. (The little guy is going to be pissed!- LOL).

So 15 minutes after I gave my expected arrival, first time I hear running late. Spent 8 minutes deciding what late meant and if she could be ready, Obviously not bobbing on a willie at that time. So why late?

I figure someone one with more money, or a regular bought / took my 4:00 spot. She wasn't too busy to text just before 4. Personally, I find this rude, and deceptive. Just tell me the truth. Then make me an offer for something better that we had booked.

After all the hype about how wonderfully sweet she is and how she goes at it with gusto, I got pushed out of line. Not happy.

**Anyone else get this from someone who by all accounts was upfront and kind, etc. - you know "the customer cums first. Twice if she can make it happen. ** kind of enthusiasm.

What's the point of the scheduling process if it doesn't matter? 40 miles round trip, begged off work early, and went home wanting to bust all over her.

Tempting to add a similar review in TER and them. I have higher expectations of $$ for an hour plus the drive and the gas to get the offer. What am I missing? She not like 59 yo Caucasians? When the offices are open I work damn near where she make her living. Maybe enough IBM, Lenovo, and other Techies are taking long lunches and Having the low cal why spread for lunch. Also was uncomfortable at the thought of having the opportunity to be the 8-10th bare rail car in the train pulling through her tunnel on her 7 hour shift. Comments on that? It sounded so hot, with so many 7,8, and 9 ratings on performance that it was a no brainer (small brainer? Enought to forgive the 4,5, & 6 ratings on looks. Overall Comments, please? Another chance of just not in the club?

Shadows1517
04-10-21, 15:57
We always say DO. NOT. DO. A. DEPOSIT! Yet we're always seeing guys posting about getting taken.

We always say don't chase hookers or beg to spend your money. MOVE. ON! Yet we're constantly seeing guys complain about someone's poor communication and others saying "keep trying". NO! If their phone stops ringing maybe they'll get their act together.

We're always seeing guys post reviews that start with "despite her questionable reviews, I decided to give her a shot" then proceed to describe a shitty time. Hello, McFly!

It'll never change, my man. It'll never change.I hear you guys and my instinct is to shit all over her, here and in them and TER. However, I also got a PM from a guy who knew exactly who I spoke about that told me her scheduler is out of state and the fuck up is probably their fault, not Vickie's. Yes guilty by using a 3rd party, but she seems to have a lot of supporters based on her SKILLS if not her scheduling, looks or weight.

I do appreciate all views on this one, and other than time, this cost me a couple gallons of gasoline. I am a member of the never ever give a deposit camp.

Thanks all.

Ranked
04-10-21, 16:13
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/northcarolina/raleigh/60742162/

Has anyone seen this one lately?

RedPill71
04-10-21, 16:41
If you read the rather LONG series of complaints you get on this board about how unreliable these girls are in terms of hygiene, phone courtesy, etc.

And if you ignore the fact that they have their own LONG list of complaints about us.

The one thing you can say about OnlyFans is that it is instant gratification. What you want, you get right then and there, on demand. And it's orders of magnitude cheaper than even a 60 lollipop.

HOWEVER. What Layla will soon find out is that to build a consistent revenue stream she's going to have to work even HARDER. Simply posting an ad in places like STG will do NOTHING for her. She's going to have to hit social media like Twitter, Snapchat, and IG *balls out*.

Because she now needs 14 guys to pay her that $5 subscription fee to match the 60 she could get for a Lolli (although she didn't do those I don't think).

Bare minimum she'll need 10 to pay her every DAY what she used to make from just 1.

So there are tradeoffs all around.

Obviously her potential audience from OnlyFans is global not local, but as I said, it's going to take a lot of non-stop HUSTLE for her to get OF to reach it's potential for her. And by the way her competition is now global also, not local.


Tried to book another visit with Layla last night. Heard back from her pretty quickly.

In her words, she is "no longer taking appointments". She is focused on getting started on onlyfans, and is selling pics and vids instead of meeting 1:1. Said her decision was not based on anything bad happening, just she "needed a break and decided to quit".

And so, the pickin' get slimmer.

Who's buying all these girls' pics & vids and prefers to jerkoff instead of spending time with a "stacked" flesh & blood very wet BBBJ and wet cfs woman? They're changing the market!

Ugh!

Pubb69
04-10-21, 17:26
We always say DO. NOT. DO. A. DEPOSIT! Yet we're always seeing guys posting about getting taken.

We always say don't chase hookers or beg to spend your money. MOVE. ON! Yet we're constantly seeing guys complain about someone's poor communication and others saying "keep trying". NO! If their phone stops ringing maybe they'll get their act together.

We're always seeing guys post reviews that start with "despite her questionable reviews, I decided to give her a shot" then proceed to describe a shitty time. Hello, McFly!

It'll never change, my man. It'll never change.Your right. It's worse than ever now, there's women posting adds and getting inquiries from guys on here that I wouldn't touch if they were paying me the ridiculous amounts they are asking. It's no wonder they get taken advantage of and also the reason we're seeing all the deposit adds all over different sites. Simply incredible that we see posts asking if someone asking for a deposit is real and worse complaining they got took by them.

Shadows1517
04-10-21, 19:59
I've seen Vickie a total of 3 or 4 times now.

First of all everything that's been said about her performance is spot on. She genuinely appears to enjoy what she does. She is probably over 40, and given that she is somebody I'd be proud to be seen with in public. She's quite cute with a bright smile and open personality. But she's also probably not going to be seen wearing a bikini to the beach. I also found her to be very articulate and easy to talk to and absolutely no signs of demons or smoking.

You had a bad experience trying to hook up with her at a risky time-slot (I. E. End of the day). You should also consider that it might not have been her decision entirely, if you get my drift.

I realize that guys come on here and rail on the girls when stuff like this happens. But whether some of these guys like it or not, the good ones like Vickie will be just fine without them. You, on the other hand, can do much worse around here these days depending of course on what you are looking for.I appreciate your feedback. Gut instinct like I said was to shit all over her. Part of me said no, don't do that. Hence the original review without her stage name. My smaller brain enthusiastically wants to see her, and is willing to look past this as just an ooops.

I've had more than 1 guy say I should look past it as the ride is a 3 or 4 ticket ride at a 1 ticket price by comparison to others out there.

Thanks man!

Oyster Shell
04-11-21, 07:30
Hello!

Has anyone seen this lady and have thoughts to share?

Thanks!

https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/asian/birthday-wishes/699267830878

MegaWattMaker
04-11-21, 08:01
Hey All,

Won't go by name, except to say she is oft discussed on here as much more than a Rub Provider and works days in RTP.

It has been said of her that the door opened and the woman was short, fat and ugly. Several guys refuted this so I was like ok, consensus rules.

Also often said that she does on look like some or most of her pics. Or that they are her, but several years and pounds ago. Ok I can live with that. Also said she's not a BBW.

The other common thread is that she provides one hell of a good service from the minute you arrive until she's gotten MSOG out of you. Definitely like that. Eager, enthusiastic, loves men and cum and often BBFS after BBBJ. .

Set up an appointment for my rub (wink wink) at her incall, 4:00 pm (only works M-F 10-5). Per request to confirm by 2:00 today, I did so at Noon. Got the address. She asked me to let her know when I was on my way. 3:25, texted I was 20-25 minutes away (20 mile ride). 11 minutes before 4, receive text she is "running late" Asks if I can do a later time. Back & forth and say 5:15 when she offered 5/5:15. I asked if she would be fresh and ready. She suggests rescheduling to next week. (The little guy is going to be pissed!- LOL).

So 15 minutes after I gave my expected arrival, first time I hear running late. Spent 8 minutes deciding what late meant and if she could be ready, Obviously not bobbing on a willie at that time. So why late?

I figure someone one with more money, or a regular bought / took my 4:00 spot. She wasn't too busy to text just before 4. Personally, I find this rude, and deceptive. Just tell me the truth. Then make me an offer for something better that we had booked.

After all the hype about how wonderfully sweet she is and how she goes at it with gusto, I got pushed out of line. Not happy.

**Anyone else get this from someone who by all accounts was upfront and kind, etc. - you know "the customer cums first. Twice if she can make it happen. ** kind of enthusiasm.

What's the point of the scheduling process if it doesn't matter? 40 miles round trip, begged off work early, and went home wanting to bust all over her.

Tempting to add a similar review in TER and them. I have higher expectations of $$ for an hour plus the drive and the gas to get the offer. What am I missing? She not like 59 yo Caucasians? When the offices are open I work damn near where she make her living. Maybe enough IBM, Lenovo, and other Techies are taking long lunches and Having the low cal why spread for lunch. Also was uncomfortable at the thought of having the opportunity to be the 8-10th bare rail car in the train pulling through her tunnel on her 7 hour shift. Comments on that? It sounded so hot, with so many 7,8, and 9 ratings on performance that it was a no brainer (small brainer? Enought to forgive the 4,5, & 6 ratings on looks. Overall Comments, please? Another chance of just not in the club?I had a similar experience Friday with her. Set something up on Wednesday for a Friday encounter, said to text Thursday to confirm, and did, then said to text Friday morning to confirm. Confirmed again, and all the times were for about noon. Finished my business in Apex at 1100, and texted and said I was OTW. Got a response back that she had 1230 available. Now I'm not a stickler, and not bashing or anything, and her time was only 30 minutes past the agreed upon noon time frame, but I was just not going to sit in the motel parking lot for an hour and wait, so I decided to scrub the meeting. And, I got to thinking about it while I was on the way to Apex for my business appt, I don't really want to be anything other than the first of the day. When you asked her would she be fresh and she told you that you should reschedule told me all I needed to know. Maybe I will try again to see her, but I dunno. She makes my risk factor spidey senses tingle. Stay safe out there!

RedPill71
04-11-21, 08:59
You're welcome.

It sounds to me like Vickie is becoming more popular these days and so people are starting to report some issues with scheduling that I've never heard before with her. That is probably due to the ever-shrinking population of providers in the area about whom anybody says so much as anything nice at all, LOL.

Historically the only bad thing I ever heard about Vickie was that she's "not a cover girl". Which I tend to take with a grain of salt. Now the other issue with her is safety, which you will have to be 100% proactive and enforce your own protocols with her in particular.

But my experience has never been anything but top notch, and because of that she makes my "best value" list for the Raleigh area.

By that I mean she has not established a reputation for ghosting people. Recent issues again seem to be because of popularity and she will have to learn to deal with that and to coordinate with her scheduler a little better. But hey, every business who goes through a sudden growth spurt will have a period of bad customer service that is not due to being a bad provider, it's simply due to being overwhelmed with customers in a short period of time.

I'm 50, and I got over a *long* time ago the idea that a provider should be a "cover girl". But to make my "best value" list the girl does have to provide, within a 1/2 to 1 hour time frame, the kind of experience that makes it seem like she's a girl that I would date under different circumstances.

So an example of a girl that I *don't* include on this list even though she is apparently very beautiful, is Ashton. The risk / reward for her is too high for me, who once again does *not* require cover girl looks to get a good value.

Here's my 5 best values in Raleigh, who are girls that I think charge less than they could get away with, but should be treated like they charge more than they do. And that is because they approach this business with a service-oriented mindset in that they intend to treat you with respect for the entire 100% of the experience to include the communication before and after.

There are probably others but again these are only the ones I have seen personally and who I believe are still active although not as much maybe as they were before.

Vickie.

Daisi.

Dawn.

Savannah Staxx.

Jessica Foxx.

The last 2 girls used to be roommates and maybe still are. The Dawn I am referring to is the blonde lady (who has a gorgeous face, by the way) who only advertises now on P4111 and not all the time anymore.

P.S.[Deleted by Admin] I take a different perspective. I think all these girls are simply doing the best they can at this point in their life, but, I take no s**t from anybody.

Yes, most of the ads on STG are scams, but those are easily detectible once you learn the system.

Yes, there are women who charge "too much" (that is a subjective term) and provide "too little" in return. But the same can be said in my personal experience of doctors, lawyers, physical therapists, builders, cleaning ladies, and consultants.

But as I just said, there are still some women in this area who want to treat their clients with respect and who are trying to. Provided once again that you are not one of these *incel* types who treat them like what I said before, and provided that you have grown out of your teenage mindset that requires her to look like a model in order to be rated a good value.

Reminder: There are others besides the ones I listed but those are only the ones I've seen. Perhaps other like-minded guys on this board will add to this list.


I appreciate your feedback. Gut instinct like I said was to shit all over her. Part of me said no, don't do that. Hence the original review without her stage name. My smaller brain enthusiastically wants to see her, and is willing to look past this as just an ooops.

I've had more than 1 guy say I should look past it as the ride is a 3 or 4 ticket ride at a 1 ticket price by comparison to others out there.

Thanks man!

VanessaClipton
04-11-21, 10:04
If you read the rather LONG series of complaints you get on this board about how unreliable these girls are in terms of hygiene, phone courtesy, etc.

And if you ignore the fact that they have their own LONG list of complaints about us.

The one thing you can say about OnlyFans is that it is instant gratification. What you want, you get right then and there, on demand. And it's orders of magnitude cheaper than even a 60 lollipop.

HOWEVER. What Layla will soon find out is that to build a consistent revenue stream she's going to have to work even HARDER. Simply posting an ad in places like STG will do NOTHING for her. She's going to have to hit social media like Twitter, Snapchat, and IG *balls out*.

Because she now needs 14 guys to pay her that $5 subscription fee to match the 60 she could get for a Lolli (although she didn't do those I don't think).

Bare minimum she'll need 10 to pay her every DAY what she used to make from just 1.

So there are tradeoffs all around.

Obviously her potential audience from OnlyFans is global not local, but as I said, it's going to take a lot of non-stop HUSTLE for her to get OF to reach it's potential for her. And by the way her competition is now global also, not local.How in the world are people using onlyfans to find providers? The interface on that site is pretty bad.

RedPill71
04-11-21, 10:14
How in the world are people using onlyfans to find providers? The interface on that site is pretty bad.I follow a lot of providers on Twitter and the ones who do both in-person visits and OF constantly stress to their audience not to mention face to face on OF or the provider might lose their account.

If you find somebody on OF you'd like to meet personally the proper thing to do is to search that lady on Twitter. As she is virtually guaranteed to have an account and if she does Face to Face she'll have a website link in her profile.

Joe Looking
04-11-21, 10:30
How in the world are people using onlyfans to find providers? The interface on that site is pretty bad.Instagram and apps like tinder seem the best bet. Personally I refuse to pay for only fans, well I've never found one I'd be willing to pay for. If you go on instagram, many women will have their only fans link in their profile. So just use things like raleigh, durham, stripper and so forth in the search and start clicking on women. For tinder just swipe whichever way on every woman and eventually you'll get some matches that dm you asking you to join only fans. Honestly I could personally only see paying for only fans maybe once and then if the chick doesn't meet up cancelling. From what I understand lots of people who were making the most amount of money on only fans were making it by getting other people to sign up for accounts. I don't know many women with only fans accounts, but the few I've known who tried it only made a few hundred a month at most and it wasn't consistent. For one chick she'd get hit up a lot on instagram from guys offering money for sex but wasn't into that so she eventually started just telling them to join only fans, which many will do for just a month.

TheEaterMan20
04-11-21, 23:26
I'm looking for this one does anyone have a lead on her or does she have a new number?

https://escortindex.com/ad/raleigh/919-614-7838/1/1643390

Raleigh69
04-12-21, 00:08
I'm looking for this one does anyone have a lead on her or does she have a new number?

https://escortindex.com/ad/raleigh/919-614-7838/1/1643390Haven't seen her post in awhile. Demons may have taken a toll.

TheEaterMan20
04-12-21, 05:17
Haven't seen her post in awhile. Demons may have taken a toll.When you say demons what exactly are you referring to? Are we talking about "partying"? I would love to get up with her again. Wish I knew all the numbers that she has and all the sites that she has posted on before. Maybe she has a new number and new photos? Who knows but if anyone has any info on her that would be nice. Her number rings and her VM answers still the same number. But she never responds to text or returns calls. So I am not sure of what has happened to her. Kinda worried about her she was a great woman and sometimes it was nice just to sit with her and talk. Not just he FS or BBBJ. Anyway any help would be nice!

MythMan2010
04-12-21, 07:31
From what I understand lots of people who were making the most amount of money on only fans were making it by getting other people to sign up for accounts. I don't know many women with only fans accounts, but the few I've known who tried it only made a few hundred a month at most and it wasn't consistent.

Honestly it's exactly this. Similar to Seeking or WYP when the girls hear about some friend of a friend that "makes $3000" a week or some bullshit so they think the same will happen.

I'm sure some top tier girls are making that cash because of stupid guys buying pussy videos on the internet but it's not common. I take the long game approach, just keep in touch with as many girls I can on a semi-regular basis and usually one finally realizes I'm a sure thing at $250 on a fun date that ends with good sex (well for me at least lol)

Sobe69
04-12-21, 10:24
Sam experience I have been trying to get up with her for almost two months and nada?


Same here. Have tried texting her several times over the last couple weeks when her status on Eros showed "available" but nada.

Communication with her seemed normal initially and I submitted a couple references at her request but haven't gotten any kind of response since. It had me wondering if a reference gave some bad feedback about me and she had me blacklisted or blocked but that seemed unlikely as those are providers I have seen several times (and were happy to provide me a reference) and I'm always a nice guy. But I still couldn't think of another reason why she wouldn't respond. At any rate, I'm glad to know it's not just me. Maybe these girls ARE that busy? Who knows.

Ignoramus
04-12-21, 17:47
Has what sounds like a "sob story" (even it's true, it's still a sob story) and she wants you to come pay for the room and give the money to her "sitter" and then she will come back out. No thanks, not looking to be charity sucker today.


Hello!

Has anyone seen this lady and have thoughts to share?

Thanks!

https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/asian/birthday-wishes/699267830878

TheDudeGuy
04-12-21, 18:33
Been eyeing this one for a while, saw a review a while back saying she was alright overall but I went to see what I could get. Responsive girl, sent me the location and arrive to a mid- range hotel. Gives me the room number right away and get greeted by the girl in the pictures. More skinny than I imagined, and since she's so skinny so is her milkers and butt. Give the donation and lay on the bed. Begin with a nice tight CBJ with me fondling her little ass and some FIV. Before I could tell her how I want her she says the only thing she doesn't do is CG (Not even surprise at this point in the hobby) so I flip her over for some mish. She's able to take my little Jimmy at first but later on in mish she starts having trouble talking it in which I saw coming due to her skinny figure. Ask her to take her bra off and see some small but nice looking niplets. I ask for DATY and she allows it, nice pink shaved kitty and no odor present! Go for some K9 and even though earlier she had some trouble with mish, she could take it all on doggy surprising enough with little trouble. Finished and go on my way. QV $80, Overall not too shabby dream. Everything covered, No GF or CG, but DATY, FIV is allowed. She looks like her pictures but looks just a tad older than her age she says she is, as well she's not "Curvy" as she ad says. Not bad but probably won't repeat in the future but hey I'm just a Dude, a Guy, TheDudeGuy.

https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/northcarolina/raleigh/60816565/

TheCommand
04-12-21, 18:58
She is good

TarHeelFan
04-12-21, 20:01
When you say demons what exactly are you referring to? Are we talking about "partying"? I would love to get up with her again. Wish I knew all the numbers that she has and all the sites that she has posted on before. Maybe she has a new number and new photos? Who knows but if anyone has any info on her that would be nice. Her number rings and her VM answers still the same number. But she never responds to text or returns calls. So I am not sure of what has happened to her. Kinda worried about her she was a great woman and sometimes it was nice just to sit with her and talk. Not just he FS or BBBJ. Anyway any help would be nice!Typically when talking about demons it is normally something heavier than just the average partying you are referring to. Some of these girls use some heavy things and causes them to sometimes pass out during or turn flakey. The partying with like 420 is typically not what is being spoken about.

Stay Safe and YMMV.

TheCommand
04-12-21, 20:37
She is goodBut does anyone know if this link of her is good?

https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/sweet-milf-available-now/37971227

Oyster Shell
04-12-21, 21:27
Has what sounds like a "sob story" (even it's true, it's still a sob story) and she wants you to come pay for the room and give the money to her "sitter" and then she will come back out. No thanks, not looking to be charity sucker today.Appreciate the heads up. Glad I didn't pursue. The value of this forum proves itself yet again.

Hikinguy
04-12-21, 23:02
Been eyeing this one for a while, saw a review a while back saying she was alright overall but I went to see what I could get. Responsive girl, sent me the location and arrive to a mid- range hotel. Gives me the room number right away and get greeted by the girl in the pictures. More skinny than I imagined, and since she's so skinny so is her milkers and butt. Give the donation and lay on the bed. Begin with a nice tight CBJ with me fondling her little ass and some FIV. Before I could tell her how I want her she says the only thing she doesn't do is CG (Not even surprise at this point in the hobby) so I flip her over for some mish. She's able to take my little Jimmy at first but later on in mish she starts having trouble talking it in which I saw coming due to her skinny figure. Ask her to take her bra off and see some small but nice looking niplets. I ask for DATY and she allows it, nice pink shaved kitty and no odor present! Go for some K9 and even though earlier she had some trouble with mish, she could take it all on doggy surprising enough with little trouble. Finished and go on my way. QV $80, Overall not too shabby dream. Everything covered, No GF or CG, but DATY, FIV is allowed. She looks like her pictures but looks just a tad older than her age she says she is, as well she's not "Curvy" as she ad says. Not bad but probably won't repeat in the future but hey I'm just a Dude, a Guy, TheDudeGuy.

https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/northcarolina/raleigh/60816565/The way her ad is worded she not into white dudes is this correct?

Nick52
04-12-21, 23:24
Been eyeing this one for a while, saw a review a while back saying she was alright overall but I went to see what I could get. Responsive girl, sent me the location and arrive to a mid- range hotel. Gives me the room number right away and get greeted by the girl in the pictures. More skinny than I imagined, and since she's so skinny so is her milkers and butt. Give the donation and lay on the bed. Begin with a nice tight CBJ with me fondling her little ass and some FIV. Before I could tell her how I want her she says the only thing she doesn't do is CG (Not even surprise at this point in the hobby) so I flip her over for some mish. She's able to take my little Jimmy at first but later on in mish she starts having trouble talking it in which I saw coming due to her skinny figure. Ask her to take her bra off and see some small but nice looking niplets. I ask for DATY and she allows it, nice pink shaved kitty and no odor present! Go for some K9 and even though earlier she had some trouble with mish, she could take it all on doggy surprising enough with little trouble. Finished and go on my way. QV $80, Overall not too shabby dream. Everything covered, No GF or CG, but DATY, FIV is allowed. She looks like her pictures but looks just a tad older than her age she says she is, as well she's not "Curvy" as she ad says. Not bad but probably won't repeat in the future but hey I'm just a Dude, a Guy, TheDudeGuy.

https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/northcarolina/raleigh/60816565/


The way her ad is worded she not into white dudes is this correct?I visit her back around Christmas off of blue ridge. Extremely similar visit, and didn't do CG (Hateeeeee when girls pull this rule). Same price.

For the other guy, she perfer AA.

VincentCor74
04-13-21, 08:10
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/northcarolina/raleigh/60835407/

The good:

Responsive to texts, pretty easy to schedule.

Incall at mid-level condo residence - (Hillsborough and Morgan Street area) -- easy in and out without anyone around during the day. Mostly clean place, though I did detect a weed smell but not sure if it was coming from her place or someone down the hall.

Cost: $70 (negotiated down from $90).

Demeanor: She's a pleasant person though not overly friendly. Lucid. No demons.

The bad:

She's not the body in the pics. She's thicker -- but has very nice large boobs. Decent enough looking face.

Rules. She does get nude but touching is limited to her breasts and no kissing / licking; no touching the kitty. At least on my first visit.

The "massage" -- 5 minutes of a back rub with lotion and she said "go ahead and turn over". Ugh, while I booked a QV, I was at least hoping for a somewhat sensual experience. She rubbed my chest and legs with lotion until I was at attention and then proceeded with a fairly clinical release.

Total time from parking to the time I got back to the car was probably 18 minutes.

Repeat? - Eh, maybe if a menu opened up a little bit to allow Russian or something a little more attentive and non-rushed. Maybe worth it if you can talk her down to $60 and just need to get one while on a lunch break or something.

She said she's a fashion and design student doing this to make money for school -- and by the clothes and sewing machine in her bedroom I believe that to be true.

VincentCor74
04-13-21, 08:17
https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/look-no-further-real-ready/38546808

Was curious if anyone has visited this one in the link.

I do know she is who she says she is, because she and I discussed sugar arrangements in the past, but never connected in person due to her living pretty far out in JoCo and not being able to entertain due to her living situation.

Those pics ARE her -- and she's got a super cute body and decent enough looking face. I don't think there are heavy demons involved with her. Based on previous conversations I believe her to be your average country girl and single mom.

She did a couple stints dancing at the Cabaret and TMC, that I know of.

Was quoted $130 for a QV and I was honest with her. Since we "know" each other and told her I thought that was a little high due to her being new to the market without reviews, etc.

Apparently, she's got a friend working with her and "doubles" are available.

If anyone sees her, I'd be very interested to hear how her skills are given that she's a clean girl with a nice body -- rare as hell for this area.

TheCommand
04-13-21, 08:49
Has anyone seen this sweetness?

https://escortbabylon.net/image_list/9192078430?gid=bab676eb6c9787584965fa5630a300b1

Leon3798
04-13-21, 10:17
Has anyone seen this sweetness?

https://escortbabylon.net/image_list/9192078430?gid=bab676eb6c9787584965fa5630a300b1I was not impressed with her. She looks like her pictures except she is ALOT of woman. She's tall and thick. Not overweight but like I said she's like an amazon. I was not happy one time I called a providers number, I had seen her previously and she showed up. Like WTF? That wasnt cool. She also told this sob story about being 'wanted' and shit and she's married. LOL. I didn't fall for it. So her conduct is shit. I wouldn't recommend. Her performance was meh she felt average, but the other incidents turned me away.

Leon3798
04-13-21, 10:27
Has what sounds like a "sob story" (even it's true, it's still a sob story) and she wants you to come pay for the room and give the money to her "sitter" and then she will come back out. No thanks, not looking to be charity sucker today.Took some time to arrange for an outcall with her. I wasnt impressed. She's got a beer belly and her teeth are clean just has gaps, its weird. She has really nice breasts, they're big but midway through the deed I have to re-insert and my hand comes back red. Now I'm not a fool to womens issues but during sex is a total turnoff for me. It ended right there and I haven't called back. Up to then it was going fine I suppose.

Ignoramus
04-13-21, 10:29
Took some time to arrange for an outcall with her. I wasnt impressed. She's got a beer belly and her teeth are clean just has gaps, its weird. She has really nice breasts, they're big but midway through the deed I have to re-insert and my hand comes back red. Now I'm not a fool to womens issues but during sex is a total turnoff for me. It ended right there and I haven't called back. Up to then it was going fine I suppose.As always, YMMV. Glad it isn't an outright scam.

NCMustang
04-14-21, 11:07
Does anyone know a provider in the Fuquay / Holly Springs / Apex area besides Amber? Thanks!

Bb211
04-14-21, 14:33
https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/strip-o-gram/496649687816

She has been around for months. Nothing negative nor positive. No name helps. Any reports.

Oyster Shell
04-14-21, 16:05
https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/strip-o-gram/496649687816

She has been around for months. Nothing negative nor positive. No name helps. Any reports.I don't know anything about her, but I have to say that the text is unique and interesting.

Leon3798
04-14-21, 17:07
https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/strip-o-gram/496649687816

She has been around for months. Nothing negative nor positive. No name helps. Any reports.I'm not paying anyone diddly until they arrive and I don't care about her stupid "I'm not leaving my house" Well then stay your ass home. Not on my dime honey. Also she used to post her prices and they are just ridiculous like 250 hhr or something like that. Hard pass.

Nathan123
04-14-21, 18:24
Does anyone know a provider in the Fuquay / Holly Springs / Apex area besides Amber? Thanks!I would like to know also, could someone pm me information for Amber? Would love to give her a try, thanks.

Reggie212
04-15-21, 10:35
I would like to know also, could someone pm me information for Amber? Would love to give her a try, thanks.https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/amber31-escort-raleigh-40201