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SeattleGonzo
11-09-17, 20:29
http://www.wral.com/youngsville-raid-possibly-linked-to-online-escort-service/17103183/
Is TNA next?
PurpleDojah
11-14-17, 14:07
http://www.wral.com/youngsville-raid-possibly-linked-to-online-escort-service/17103183/
Is TNA next?TNA has been under investigation for over 3 years! It's pretty well known if you ask around about it. There have been a lot of stings directed at catching traffickers and rescuing victims. Yes, some innocent people may get caught up on a book & release but when you look into the details of these investigations, they are not charging women with prostitution nor are they charging men with seeking sexual services for money. They are looking for human traffickers. Everyone should be helping to identify this so we can all stay safe and help this industry and world be a better place!
http://www.kptv.com/story/36891527/sheriff-underage-sex-sting-leads-to-arrests-of-nine-men-in-clackamas-county
If it is too good to be true its is do not get caught. A SW is one thing but NEVER underage girls. Come on guys think just a litle stupid is as stupid does Use precautions and make sure its safe.
These guys deserve what they get so sad.
http://www.kptv.com/story/36891527/sheriff-underage-sex-sting-leads-to-arrests-of-nine-men-in-clackamas-county
If it is too good to be true its is do not get caught. A SW is one thing but NEVER underage girls. Come on guys think just a litle stupid is as stupid does Use precautions and make sure its safe.
These guys deserve what they get so sad.Stupid as stupid does.
Don't mess with underage girls!
https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2020/04/tigard-police-arrest-woman-in-murder-of-man-found-dead-at-embassy-suites.html
This is crazy!
Sorry how do you know she's an escort?
I do not recognize her personally.
https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2020/04/tigard-police-arrest-woman-in-murder-of-man-found-dead-at-embassy-suites.html
This is crazy!
OneOldFuck
04-22-20, 19:15
Sorry how do you know she's an escort?
I do not recognize her personally.If TNA ever comes up again? Look for thread why XX has been banned If it has not been deleted.
OOF.
BuckNaked123
04-22-20, 20:17
https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2020/04/tigard-police-arrest-woman-in-murder-of-man-found-dead-at-embassy-suites.html
This is crazy!Victoria Von Helkine was the one arrested. I have seen her several times over the years. Very popular in Seattle about 15 years ago and also did main stream porn.
Who likes to hang around sandy. Super reliable and nice. Best BJ in a long time.
ALso yesterday on sandy near the bank of america. I saw what looked to be an ok female with blond hair black sweater and paisly colored streatch pants. Seemed cleaner than most. I was on the far side of the street. I think this is the second time I have seen her. Anyone have any intel on her.
This was around 6 30 pm.
If TNA ever comes up again? Look for thread why XX has been banned If it has not been deleted.
OOF.Site is working.
It is up. Every threadpost since 3/20 has been deleted.
I hope they did not delete evidence related to the crime.
Lucifur999
04-23-20, 17:48
http://www.kptv.com/story/36891527/sheriff-underage-sex-sting-leads-to-arrests-of-nine-men-in-clackamas-county
If it is too good to be true its is do not get caught. A SW is one thing but NEVER underage girls. Come on guys think just a litle stupid is as stupid does Use precautions and make sure its safe.
These guys deserve what they get so sad.What is sad about pedos getting caught?
Site is working.
It is up. Every threadpost since 3/20 has been deleted.
I hope they did not delete evidence related to the crime.That would be bad. Really bad.
Drex Diggler2
06-18-20, 23:29
https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/06/18/bay-area-man-made-21-million-operating-international-sex-trafficking-websites-that-included-child-trafficking-victims-feds-say/
Bodyrubshop and cityx gone now.
Human Trafficking Unit cited 8 men in an undercover operation, April 2021
So this just popped up in my news feed.
https://www.portlandoregon.gov/police/news/read.cfm?id=301680
I know as a hobbyist this is always a risk. I was wondering what advise any of you have in this situation or how not to get in this situation. Does anyone have any info on this operation? Stay safe out there!
Human Trafficking Unit cited 8 men in an undercover operation, April 2021
So this just popped up in my news feed.
https://www.portlandoregon.gov/police/news/read.cfm?id=301680
I know as a hobbyist this is always a risk. I was wondering what advise any of you have in this situation or how not to get in this situation. Does anyone have any info on this operation? Stay safe out there!I texted this one last week. Seemed too good to be true, 200 for anything, super hot and young, but I obviously was texting with a real person, not a booking fee scam. I was about to book but my LE spidey sense was working overtime, so I boged out. Told me she had a room by Mall 205, which turns to be where they were doing their sting. Close call!!
https://portland.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/summer-snack-special/058637575331
How does catching johns save the poor women who are the real victims of trafficking or punishing the pimps that are making them victims? Post an ad, scoop up some johns, that is easy for the police to get some headlines for fining and ruining the lives of 8 men without saving one woman.
Human Trafficking Unit cited 8 men in an undercover operation, April 2021
So this just popped up in my news feed.
https://www.portlandoregon.gov/police/news/read.cfm?id=301680
I know as a hobbyist this is always a risk. I was wondering what advise any of you have in this situation or how not to get in this situation. Does anyone have any info on this operation? Stay safe out there!
Human Trafficking Unit cited 8 men in an undercover operation, April 2021
So this just popped up in my news feed.
https://www.portlandoregon.gov/police/news/read.cfm?id=301680
I know as a hobbyist this is always a risk. I was wondering what advise any of you have in this situation or how not to get in this situation. Does anyone have any info on this operation? Stay safe out there!Never, never discuss payment and services. For all the criticism Sara Fox gets she has solid advice on this.
Whenever I read on here "confirmed BBFS for $100 more" or anything like that I know the person is rolling the dice with the law. You can discuss donation, or discuss what you like to do, but doing both is incredibly risky. I end any conversation if a provider comes back with both a dollar amount and a list of available activities. Avoiding hotels is usually safer, avoiding unknown providers is usually safer, sticking with providers that are over 30 is usually safer. We criticize TNA a lot but you can at least know you aren't dealing with LE of you see a provider that has years of board presence.
At JJohnJack- may want to consider replacing your burner number (assuming you are using a burner app or phone).
PriceIsRight39
05-05-21, 12:04
I texted this one last week. Seemed too good to be true, 200 for anything, super hot and young, but I obviously was texting with a real person, not a booking fee scam. I was about to book but my LE spidey sense was working overtime, so I boged out. Told me she had a room by Mall 205, which turns to be where they were doing their sting. Close call!!
https://portland.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/summer-snack-special/058637575331Seen those pics before. Glad you missed the sweep! Hot looking cop! Wonder how many officers she. Never mind.
They do this while the city burns.
Praise be it to those that purchased my PDX home. Thank you! LOL.
I texted this one last week. Seemed too good to be true, 200 for anything, super hot and young, but I obviously was texting with a real person, not a booking fee scam. I was about to book but my LE spidey sense was working overtime, so I boged out. Told me she had a room by Mall 205, which turns to be where they were doing their sting. Close call!!
https://portland.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/summer-snack-special/058637575331I wonder who her duo partner is.
Goggins923
05-05-21, 14:28
How does catching johns save the poor women who are the real victims of trafficking or punishing the pimps that are making them victims? Post an ad, scoop up some johns, that is easy for the police to get some headlines for fining and ruining the lives of 8 men without saving one woman.Isn't the answer obvious? It takes two to tango. No johns, no business.
If its too good to be true IT IS use common scene never let the SW control the situation meet in different places hotel meet ups can always be a danger Either from a pimp a rob or LE.
Never let the girl talk to you at the window or say pull around the corner. Be discrete Also if on social medial like we all use noways. Keep up a chat thread for a long time. NEVER ANSWER A UNDERAGE GIRL ITS ALWAYS A COP lots of bait out there. Love the politician who got caught up. You are also right Never one girl saved Just lived ruined.
To me what is wrong with giving a girl for some money. We take them to dinner movies flowers shopping in hopes of sex after a date. So its a business transaction to me. But some girls are forced into it That is always wrong. Oh well my simplistic view. ALSO PPD seems to not have as much manpower as other counties so Be careful in other areas. Portland is overwhelmed with protests and diverted manpower to that.
Just my humble opinion which means nothing.
Stay safe GOOD WEATHER IS HERE so we can see what we are shopping for.
AddledPated
05-05-21, 15:23
Saw your question about the sting.
A man I know got busted in a sting a few years back, he'd talked to the girl about pricing. She then asked him if he had condoms. See what I mean? Any connection between money and sex is dangerous. They get you to connect the two in any way via text or telephone then they arrest you when you knock on the door.
A burner phone is critical, I try to text, so they never get a recording of me saying anything. I stick to the barest of communication. "Hey, I go by X (not my real name) You don't know me, but I'd like to see you at 8, one hour appointment. " Nothing else. They often try to ask, "What do you want?" I don't answer that. If she gets freaky about it, I move on. Better safe. You've given a legit provider all the info she needs, 8 o'clock, one hour. She knows what you're there for, she's sucked 10 dicks today already so there's no need for that other shit. Keep in mind that LE wants to get you to connect the dots. They are going to hound you with questions, you like this, you want that?
It's hard these days. Providers used to be much more careful about not answering specific questions. These days we want to know "what's in the VIP package?" or "Do you do anal?" You mention anything sexual at all with any mention of money and LE's gotcha.
I try to stick to known local girls as best I can. Girls that have been around, girls that have reviews. Girls that other guys have seen. I avoid traveling girls, the "just in town for tonight. " type. I like variety, we all do, but "stranger danger. " An unknown can be bad news for several reasons, maybe LE or even if they aren't, they don't have to care about giving decent service. They don't have a rep here to protect. Not that that is stopping any of the local bitches lately. But anyway.
Watch out for the "too good to be true" ad. Like the one in the discussion. A 19 year old super model college girl that will do bareback GFE, swallow, anal, msog for less than your mortgage is likely a mirage.
I avoid incall as much as possible. LE can't control the situation in an outcall so chances are an outcall chick isn't a cop. I can't say outcall vs incall is truly better, both have different rewards / risks. Lots of reasons I like it better when I get to pick the ground.
I saw LE doing a sting once at a hotel. I'd texted the girl, got the heebie jeebies and blew it off. Peeked from a block away. They had the room set up with the girl for Johnny to knock on and they pounced from the adjacent room. Incall, with a girl I don't know, I like to surveil it first. Show up a half hour or so early, park a block or two away and peek from distance. Tyrone, LE, double booking. If there's a ton of dudes hanging around or moving back and forth to that room, I want to know beforehand.
I park the burner phone after the "I'm here" contact. I don't bring it with me. It's a good idea to have a cover story in advance. "What girl? I'm lost, I wanted to use the bathroom, I was told Damian Lillard was doing autograph signings here, whatever. " It won't stop them from the arrest but anything to make it that much harder for them.
I'm playing stupid. Never admit you're there to see the girl. No matter how dead to rights they say you are, or you think you are. Never admit it. Never. Keep repeating the same lie you said the first time. No matter what. "I just needed to use the bathroom. " Don't change your story, don't add any details. Do not talk to the cops. They are conducting a field interview to use against you, they aren't going to let you go no matter what you tell them. You show up, cops are there, you will be arrested. This part is about getting the charges dropped. You're going to be scared shitless. Fight that with everything you've got. Relax and stick to your story.
I bring my wallet, my actual phone, everything that a normal person would have. LE grabs you, they are going to get that anyway. I'm playing the part of the random citizen in the wrong place, wrong time. Show up with completely empty everything except condoms and the exact amount the ad says and they gotcha.
Ok this is turning into a novel. So research first, stick to known girls, burner phone, give no information / ask no questions, and don't be afraid to walk if something feels wrong. Hope this helps.
Never, never discuss payment and services. For all the criticism Sara Fox gets she has solid advice on this.
Whenever I read on here "confirmed BBFS for $100 more" or anything like that I know the person is rolling the dice with the law. You can discuss donation, or discuss what you like to do, but doing both is incredibly risky. I end any conversation if a provider comes back with both a dollar amount and a list of available activities. Avoiding hotels is usually safer, avoiding unknown providers is usually safer, sticking with providers that are over 30 is usually safer. We criticize TNA a lot but you can at least know you aren't dealing with LE of you see a provider that has years of board presence.
At JJohnJack- may want to consider replacing your burner number (assuming you are using a burner app or phone).Yep. My app number is changed! First thing I did!
DuhkGeorge
05-05-21, 17:48
Yep. My app number is changed! First thing I did!In other cities the ad was usually removed within a day or two. Not that I like playing with fire.
Thank you for the info. I and am sure that others appreciated the insight.
Saw your question about the sting.
A man I know got busted in a sting a few years back, he'd talked to the girl about pricing. She then asked him if he had condoms. See what I mean? Any connection between money and sex is dangerous. They get you to connect the two in any way via text or telephone then they arrest you when you knock on the door.
A burner phone is critical, I try to text, so they never get a recording of me saying anything. I stick to the barest of communication. "Hey, I go by X (not my real name) You don't know me, but I'd like to see you at 8, one hour appointment. " Nothing else. They often try to ask, "What do you want?" I don't answer that. If she gets freaky about it, I move on. Better safe. You've given a legit provider all the info she needs, 8 o'clock, one hour. She knows what you're there for, she's sucked 10 dicks today already so there's no need for that other shit. Keep in mind that LE wants to get you to connect the dots. They are going to hound you with questions, you like this, you want that?
It's hard these days. Providers used to be much more careful about not answering specific questions. These days we want to know "what's in the VIP package?" or "Do you do anal?" You mention anything sexual at all with any mention of money and LE's gotcha.
I try to stick to known local girls as best I can. Girls that have been around, girls that have reviews. Girls that other guys have seen. I avoid traveling girls, the "just in town for tonight. " type. I like variety, we all do, but "stranger danger. " An unknown can be bad news for several reasons, maybe LE or even if they aren't, they don't have to care about giving decent service. They don't have a rep here to protect. Not that that is stopping any of the local bitches lately. But anyway.
Watch out for the "too good to be true" ad. Like the one in the discussion. A 19 year old super model college girl that will do bareback GFE, swallow, anal, msog for less than your mortgage is likely a mirage.
I avoid incall as much as possible. LE can't control the situation in an outcall so chances are an outcall chick isn't a cop. I can't say outcall vs incall is truly better, both have different rewards / risks. Lots of reasons I like it better when I get to pick the ground.
I saw LE doing a sting once at a hotel. I'd texted the girl, got the heebie jeebies and blew it off. Peeked from a block away. They had the room set up with the girl for Johnny to knock on and they pounced from the adjacent room. Incall, with a girl I don't know, I like to surveil it first. Show up a half hour or so early, park a block or two away and peek from distance. Tyrone, LE, double booking. If there's a ton of dudes hanging around or moving back and forth to that room, I want to know beforehand.
I park the burner phone after the "I'm here" contact. I don't bring it with me. It's a good idea to have a cover story in advance. "What girl? I'm lost, I wanted to use the bathroom, I was told Damian Lillard was doing autograph signings here, whatever. " It won't stop them from the arrest but anything to make it that much harder for them.
I'm playing stupid. Never admit you're there to see the girl. No matter how dead to rights they say you are, or you think you are. Never admit it. Never. Keep repeating the same lie you said the first time. No matter what. "I just needed to use the bathroom. " Don't change your story, don't add any details. Do not talk to the cops. They are conducting a field interview to use against you, they aren't going to let you go no matter what you tell them. You show up, cops are there, you will be arrested. This part is about getting the charges dropped. You're going to be scared shitless. Fight that with everything you've got. Relax and stick to your story.
I bring my wallet, my actual phone, everything that a normal person would have. LE grabs you, they are going to get that anyway. I'm playing the part of the random citizen in the wrong place, wrong time. Show up with completely empty everything except condoms and the exact amount the ad says and they gotcha.
Ok this is turning into a novel. So research first, stick to known girls, burner phone, give no information / ask no questions, and don't be afraid to walk if something feels wrong. Hope this helps.
https://www.wweek.com/news/2021/10/20/portland-polices-human-trafficking-arrests-arent-what-they-seem/
Pussyholic
11-26-21, 10:50
Very tragic story of a Portland TNA provider murdered last week by a client in a suburb of Chicago:
https://www.dailyherald.com/amp-article/20211123/news/211129703/
Hopefully, this dude will never get to see the outside of Illinois state penitentiary again, but what a tragic loss and a terrible reminder of the dangers women face in this industry. Beautiful young woman, 28 years old, two young kids. Just so sad.
Very tragic story of a Portland TNA provider murdered last week by a client in a suburb of Chicago:
https://www.dailyherald.com/amp-article/20211123/news/211129703/
Hopefully, this dude will never get to see the outside of Illinois state penitentiary again, but what a tragic loss and a terrible reminder of the dangers women face in this industry. Beautiful young woman, 28 years old, two young kids. Just so sad.This is very upsetting. I never met her. He doesn't belong in the gene pool.
Very tragic story of a Portland TNA provider murdered last week by a client in a suburb of Chicago:
https://www.dailyherald.com/amp-article/20211123/news/211129703/
Hopefully, this dude will never get to see the outside of Illinois state penitentiary again, but what a tragic loss and a terrible reminder of the dangers women face in this industry. Beautiful young woman, 28 years old, two young kids. Just so sad.What was her TNA handle?
Pussyholic
11-27-21, 10:14
What was her TNA handle?Private message sent.
What was her TNA handle?I think XXCEmpress posted it was her friend. She said who it was but I can't recall now. No none I've seen it was on my hodar. She then posted a link to a GoFund me and the thread went poof.
MisterJimmy
11-27-21, 15:28
Private message sent.Also curious.
JaceTheRedAce
11-27-21, 18:36
Private message sent.Also interested in the tna handle.
I think XXCEmpress posted it was her friend. She said who it was but I can't recall now. No none I've seen it was on my hodar. She then posted a link to a GoFund me and the thread went poof.It was PytHawaiian.
It was PytHawaiian.Pythawaiian worked duos with her. I don't know the rules about outing publicly (what if you're deceased?) so am going to keep that to myself. If you look at the article you can get her name and look her up on arrests. Org you will find a mugshot. I recognized her from that and actually had followed her on snap so I had seen she was posting ads in Chicago recently. So yeah she's a tna girl but I never met her. Brutal and sad.
Sugar Daddy PDX
11-28-21, 07:52
Pythawaiian worked duos with her. I don't know the rules about outing publicly (what if you're deceased?) so am going to keep that to myself. If you look at the article you can get her name and look her up on arrests. Org you will find a mugshot. I recognized her from that and actually had followed her on snap so I had seen she was posting ads in Chicago recently. So yeah she's a tna girl but I never met her. Brutal and sad.Really, really tragic situation. I found her mugshot as well, but didn't recognize her. Not sure how much she was in Portland. I checked all of the TNA ads in Illinois over the past month, but she didn't post there. Must have been using another site. And correction from below, Empress does not know her. It was PYThawaiian that knew her. PYThawaiian was NOT the victim.
Really, really tragic situation. I found her mugshot as well, but didn't recognize her. Not sure how much she was in Portland. I checked all of the TNA ads in Illinois over the past month, but she didn't post there. Must have been using another site. And correction from below, Empress does not know her. It was PYThawaiian that knew her. PYThawaiian was NOT the victim.I originally thought Empress knew her. But it was PYTHawaiian who knew her and had the post that mentioned her TNA name that was deleted.
I know it's the Boregonian but since it isn't behind a paywall now, I'll just leave this here.
Infinitely more alarming (or hilarious depending on your perspective) is the 2nd link where it's mentioned our mayor now has "senior advisor" Sam Adams investigating the hotel. I don't know which oozes more sleaze. The Madison or our former mayor.
With the non-profit homeless services adjacent to Madison & the owners stated desire to sell. I get the uneasy feeling that some city hall shenanigans are perhaps brewing.
Forgot the damn links for below. Too much sun today...
https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2022/07/portlands-deadliest-block-people-are-getting-murdered-here-on-a-regular-basis-why.html
https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2022/07/mayor-ted-wheeler-calls-for-special-patrol-of-portlands-deadliest-block.html
I know it's the Boregonian but since it isn't behind a paywall now, I'll just leave this here.
Infinitely more alarming (or hilarious depending on your perspective) is the 2nd link where it's mentioned our mayor now has "senior advisor" Sam Adams investigating the hotel. I don't know which oozes more sleaze. The Madison or our former mayor.
With the non-profit homeless services adjacent to Madison & the owners stated desire to sell. I get the uneasy feeling that some city hall shenanigans are perhaps brewing.Sleazy ex mayor for sure. Really no help for that area. Rip down the Madison than what? City so incompetent that land would just be overfill from the tents on murder st.
NoFearToTry
07-23-22, 02:13
https://www.opb.org/article/2022/07/14/2-woodburn-oregon-democrats-reported-illicit-massage-parlor-contact-police-records-show/
I said a few months back this place was on the radar, here is a news story.
https://www.opb.org/article/2022/07/14/2-woodburn-oregon-democrats-reported-illicit-massage-parlor-contact-police-records-show/
I said a few months back this place was on the radar, here is a news story."mutual groping until he came to his senses" LOLOLOLOL.
More like "came" LOL.
These fucking politicians!
https://www.opb.org/article/2022/07/14/2-woodburn-oregon-democrats-reported-illicit-massage-parlor-contact-police-records-show/
I said a few months back this place was on the radar, here is a news story.They figured they'd better rat out their pastime before they got caught. They can claim they had no idea that went on there in the event it came up during their political carreer. THey should just become Republicans. They GOP doesn't care if you enjoy a little pnp just point out the dems that do.
https://www.opb.org/article/2022/07/14/2-woodburn-oregon-democrats-reported-illicit-massage-parlor-contact-police-records-show/
I said a few months back this place was on the radar, here is a news story.This is going to be the worst season of 'True Detective' ever.
If this story is to be believed. And these guys think it should be. Some detective called a complainant back with his #metoo story, a guy decides late at night to randomly get amassage for a hurt shoulder, there was "mutual groping" and then he randomly left, and more.
But here's the REAL kicker: "Medina unwittingly helped make the matter public in June, when he filed a public records request with the city of Woodburn for the police investigation into the spa. ".
Clearly he mistakenly made his complaint public then decided to get out in front of it. Now you just have to wonder why he complained at all; probably didn't give him something he wanted so he was being vindictive.
NoFearToTry
01-29-23, 13:29
And another one gets some unwanted attention, now the other place they have will start getting some more eyes on it.
https://www.columbiacountyspotlight.com/news/massage-parlor-offering-sexual-services-scappoose-city-officials-say/article_a06295b8-7cde-11ed-8b5b-77a43cf4bdf1.html
its the season of bored leo, cant do the real work though , someone might fight back
NoFearToTry
01-29-23, 16:52
Another one that's been closed clearly due to legal activities is in oregon city 2nd floor, no news reports out yet I can find.
Drex Diggler2
01-30-23, 07:53
Another one that's been closed clearly due to legal activities is in oregon city 2nd floor, no news reports out yet I can find.Not surprised since it was surrounded by legit businesses. May have moved as well, as their "FS" Fun became more and more popular.
Course since most now offer something, I am surprised they have not sped up busts.
https://www.kptv.com/2023/03/25/8-men-arrested-sex-traffic-sting-1-jailed-after-giving-false-name-lake-oswego-police-say/?outputType=amp
Please. Not a trafficking sting. A standard prosty sting and a lot of ruined lives.
https://www.kptv.com/2023/03/25/8-men-arrested-sex-traffic-sting-1-jailed-after-giving-false-name-lake-oswego-police-say/?outputType=amp
Please. Not a trafficking sting. A standard prosty sting and a lot of ruined lives.The article says "human trafficking". LOL. What a joke.
RamblinJavlin
03-26-23, 18:35
https://www.kptv.com/2023/03/25/8-men-arrested-sex-traffic-sting-1-jailed-after-giving-false-name-lake-oswego-police-say/?outputType=amp
Please. Not a trafficking sting. A standard prosty sting and a lot of ruined lives."In Clackamas County, sex buyers are sometimes eligible for diversion programs where they attend educational training that highlights the impact buyers have on the lives of sex trafficking victims. ".
No one I've ever seen had a gun to their head. If anything they've made over a $100 k and have a far better life than I do. If only society didn't have them loving in the shadows, they'd be able to use their money for legitimate purposes. Things like rent wouldn't be difficult to pay. Putting money away would be easier.
You would think that in Portland of all places news outlets would do real stories about sex workers and how they are being denied a human right: to do with your body as you see fit.
"In Clackamas County, sex buyers are sometimes eligible for diversion programs where they attend educational training that highlights the impact buyers have on the lives of sex trafficking victims. ".
No one I've ever seen had a gun to their head. If anything they've made over a $100 k and have a far better life than I do. If only society didn't have them loving in the shadows, they'd be able to use their money for legitimate purposes. Things like rent wouldn't be difficult to pay. Putting money away would be easier.
You would think that in Portland of all places news outlets would do real stories about sex workers and how they are being denied a human right: to do with your body as you see fit.Not a single person was charged with sex trafficking. They all got tickets (except for the guy who lied about his identity). Sex trafficking is a felony that is 15 years to life. The cops and media should stop lying.
We've all seen some weird shit. I have seen a few Tyrone's rolling queers at and porn shop but this is new.
https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2023/04/1-dead-after-shooting-inside-se-portland-business.html
I'm guessing that some guy was in a a booth and another guy came in and started groping or touching the other guy, who then pulled out a gun and shot. When I first visited and adult store I didn't realize it was such a hotspot for dudes hooking up with dudes.
I stopped going as I was met by very aggressive males who were hungry for cock.
I did meet a random female there once giving BBBJ's. That was hot, but very rare.
We've all seen some weird shit. I have seen a few Tyrone's rolling queers at and porn shop but this is new.
https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2023/04/1-dead-after-shooting-inside-se-portland-business.html
NoFearToTry
07-20-23, 18:42
As I thought, let it run so we can make some karens happy on the news, hope none of why'all got in the mess.
https://www.kgw.com/article/news/crime/portland-police-human-trafficking-mission/283-cb538a3e-4c1b-4898-879c-144f47bb01ae
https://www.koin.com/news/portland/human-trafficking-bust-ends-with-12-arrests-7-possible-victims-found/
I saw this yesterday and as usual there is no effort to determine if there is trafficking nor any effort to close the pimps down. The only effort goes into busting the buyers like that will stop the crime of human trafficking. The demand will always be there like it has since the dark ages. Prostitution is a crime but why are the street walkers getting a free ride? Who is the real victim here? The cops focus on the Johns because they are the easy target, they have cash and typically have no guns.
As far as being victims goes, (lose your job, loose your wife and family, go to court and pay the government all you have left), that is the victim!
As I thought, let it run so we can make some karens happy on the news, hope none of why'all got in the mess.
https://www.kgw.com/article/news/crime/portland-police-human-trafficking-mission/283-cb538a3e-4c1b-4898-879c-144f47bb01ae
https://www.koin.com/news/portland/human-trafficking-bust-ends-with-12-arrests-7-possible-victims-found/
NoFearToTry
07-21-23, 20:11
As far as being victims goes, (lose your job, loose your wife and family, go to court and pay the government all you have left), that is the victim!So true the ones with some means to "pay" the courts are the "victims" because of some whining karens. They use the word "trafficking" to get the attention of news outlets.
Sugar Daddy PDX
07-25-23, 15:22
As I thought, let it run so we can make some karens happy on the news, hope none of why'all got in the mess.
https://www.kgw.com/article/news/crime/portland-police-human-trafficking-mission/283-cb538a3e-4c1b-4898-879c-144f47bb01ae
https://www.koin.com/news/portland/human-trafficking-bust-ends-with-12-arrests-7-possible-victims-found/This list likely encompasses 12 mongers that call attention to themselves with a u-turn across traffic towards engagement. Then launches right into window negotiations of services. Both fatal offenses in this game.
Wild.
https://www.oregonlive.com/opinion/2023/07/when-the-sex-workers-vanish-no-one-cares-steve-duin-column.html
Bobby ShafToe
07-30-23, 14:15
Wild.
https://www.oregonlive.com/opinion/2023/07/when-the-sex-workers-vanish-no-one-cares-steve-duin-column.htmlShe's a good gal. Haven't seen her since she was 18, but cool chick.
She's a good gal. Haven't seen her since she was 18, but cool chick.I was meaning to ask if anyone had a link after I read her article. Curious how GPS she is.
TheSteelHead
08-02-23, 12:13
I was meaning to ask if anyone had a link after I read her article. Curious how GPS she is.It's been a couple years for me, but she is the definition of NOT GPS. She used to be $160/hr all inclusive, anything goes.
Rates are up based in her profile, but still way less than the rest.
She hasn't posted in awhile, but she has been on there.
https://www.tnaboard.com/member.php?82938-Mona
It's been a couple years for me, but she is the definition of NOT GPS. She used to be $160/hr all inclusive, anything goes.
Rates are up based in her profile, but still way less than the rest.
She hasn't posted in awhile, but she has been on there.
https://www.tnaboard.com/member.php?82938-MonaYou got to love her! The article is like a free page 2 ad in the Oregonian. She even got her rate included in the article! She is a genius.
Bobby ShafToe
08-03-23, 20:30
You got to love her! The article is like a free page 2 ad in the Oregonian. She even got her rate included in the article! She is a genius.She is a very very smart woman.
A very familiar board site that was hacked last year has now been offline for at least a few hours. I wonder if they got hacked again?
HankChristine
08-16-23, 17:16
A very familiar board site that was hacked last year has now been offline for at least a few hours. I wonder if they got hacked again?It seems to be back up now. Not seeing anything explaining why it was down.
DanceMania
08-29-23, 17:19
https://dancemania.info/schmutz.pdf
KOIN, KGW & the Oregonian apparently weren't interested in the details of how this so-called "human trafficking" crackdown was conducted in their cop-friendly coverage, so I paid $12 for this detailed police report that is public record and put it up on my personal website -- so I don't see how USASG could have any liability for it.
https://dancemania.info/schmutz.pdf
KOIN, KGW & the Oregonian apparently weren't interested in the details of how this so-called "human trafficking" crackdown was conducted in their cop-friendly coverage, so I paid $12 for this detailed police report that is public record and put it up on my personal website -- so I don't see how USASG could have any liability for it.Meanwhile people are being stabbed, shot, and stores are being looted and they don't do shit. There was zero trafficking happening. Just a lady trying to make some money and a dude who is probably with a wife post menopause and is just trying to get laid. Now his life is likely a mess.
BookOfMorty
08-31-23, 08:04
Meanwhile people are being stabbed, shot, and stores are being looted and they don't do shit. There was zero trafficking happening. Just a lady trying to make some money and a dude who is probably with a wife post menopause and is just trying to get laid. Now his life is likely a mess.Seems pretty straightforward. Cops were watching a high traffic area and simply picked up a guy after seeing a girl get into his car. Most likely he'll get some sort of diversion and eventually expungement and she'll never get charged. Doesn't seem like it was anything elaborate or excessively planned or whatever. I remember in the past seeing stuff on that show called Cops where the girl was an undercover police officer and had backup from cops as well. This looked like they just went out there cause it was getting out of hand.
SW stuff is just way too risky for me but to each it's own. Hopefully soon all of this stuff just gets decriminalized and we don't have to worry about it.
DanceMania
08-31-23, 08:53
Wasn't sure if the mods were going to allow the link to the mostly unredacted police report, but I guess it's OK if we don't mention any of the names here in the forum.
The case I posted was dismissed, apparently because the john didn't clearly confess to a sex for money deal. Another case was also dismissed for presumably similar reasons. Two men skipped their Aug arraignment date and probably have bench warrants out for them. The remaining 8 cases have pretrial hearings scheduled for Sep, so it will be interesting to see if any go all the way to trial. I'll be monitoring the court action online from up here in the Seattle area, and report any final resolutions or other noteworthy developments.
Special thanks to KOIN 6 for providing the names of the 12 men arrested in their Jul 19 report so we could learn about how these "separate & interrogate" busts are conducted, and the value of exercising your right to remain silent and request an attorney even if you're in the intimidating position of sitting in a cop car in handcuffs.
Seems pretty straightforward. Cops were watching a high traffic area and simply picked up a guy after seeing a girl get into his car. Most likely he'll get some sort of diversion and eventually expungement and she'll never get charged. Doesn't seem like it was anything elaborate or excessively planned or whatever. I remember in the past seeing stuff on that show called Cops where the girl was an undercover police officer and had backup from cops as well. This looked like they just went out there cause it was getting out of hand.
SW stuff is just way too risky for me but to each it's own. Hopefully soon all of this stuff just gets decriminalized and we don't have to worry about it.I was at Taboo on 82nd and this gorgeous little hooker was hanging around outside. Chatty, dingy and so hot. Well, she ended up getting busted on the show Cops AND was underage as I recall so that John was in big trouble.
She ended up busted for prostitution like 10 times in 10 days, mugshots on the hood old Potshot. Wait, she must not have been underage then.
Super cool chick to talk to though.
HankChristine
08-31-23, 12:44
Seems pretty straightforward. Cops were watching a high traffic area and simply picked up a guy after seeing a girl get into his car. I read through it. Looks like all they had on him was from him admitting what he was up to. The girl said she was just getting a ride to her hotel. Wonder what would have changed if he had refused to talk.
I read through it. Looks like all they had on him was from him admitting what he was up to. The girl said she was just getting a ride to her hotel. Wonder what would have changed if he had refused to talk.The us "human trafficking" funding to do this. It wasn't just a cop to happen to see it. They got something like 15 guys. Including 1 member here that I know of. Then they go to the media and beat their chest about a Human Trafficking sting. And no one is changed with or rescued from trafficking. Meanwhile the rest of the city is on fire.
WarpFactor69
08-31-23, 14:31
The us "human trafficking" funding to do this. It wasn't just a cop to happen to see it. They got something like 15 guys. Including 1 member here that I know of. Then they go to the media and beat their chest about a Human Trafficking sting. And no one is changed with or rescued from trafficking. Meanwhile the rest of the city is on fire.Trafficing is a powerful trigger word that they use as an excuse for their lame behavior. When they do the stings there are no 15-year-olds rescued. All they do is hassle and arrest consenting adults.
BookOfMorty
08-31-23, 16:17
Trafficing is a powerful trigger word that they use as an excuse for their lame behavior. When they do the stings there are no 15-year-olds rescued. All they do is hassle and arrest consenting adults.Totally agree. Still I don't think it was anything elaborate other than sending an officer or two out there to just stop cars. It doesn't seem like they had a FBI van and helicopters and snipers on the roof or anything like that. My guess is things we're getting pretty brazen out there, people were complaining and the cops decided to show up to sort of scare people back into keeping this stuff a little less visible.
My view has always been it's best to decriminalize it all and setup avenues for actual victims to get help but it just makes too much sense so no one is doing it.
Totally agree. Still I don't think it was anything elaborate other than sending an officer or two out there to just stop cars. It doesn't seem like they had a FBI van and helicopters and snipers on the roof or anything like that. My guess is things we're getting pretty brazen out there, people were complaining and the cops decided to show up to sort of scare people back into keeping this stuff a little less visible.
My view has always been it's best to decriminalize it all and setup avenues for actual victims to get help but it just makes too much sense so no one is doing it.I'm sure there have been complaints. But the cops didn't just decide to show up. They got federal trafficking funds to do it and were happy to take the money and get some OT. This was a pretty good sized surveillance operation. Not officer friendly looking into some complaints and happen to catch a few in the act.
I know for a fact one guy was arrested after leaving the hotel with a hooker. They watched him go in and busted him as he drove off.
I personally am not a street guy. But if you are be more discrete and if pulled over invoke your right to shut your mouth. Sone guys thing talking might get them out of it on the spot. It won't. For fuck sakes don't apologize to the cop.
Pussyholic
09-16-23, 00:24
This is some horrible shit, people. I think I know who she is but will keep it private out of respect.
https://columbiacommunityconnection.com/the-dalles/la-pine-man-details-killing-in-td-during-suicide-by-cop-attempt
RamblinJavlin
09-16-23, 11:02
This is some horrible shit, people. I think I know who she is but will keep it private out of respect.
https://columbiacommunityconnection.com/the-dalles/la-pine-man-details-killing-in-td-during-suicide-by-cop-attemptI'm going to go out on a limb and say Samantha Bergren?
WestWard69
09-16-23, 13:38
This is some horrible shit, people. I think I know who she is but will keep it private out of respect.
https://columbiacommunityconnection.com/the-dalles/la-pine-man-details-killing-in-td-during-suicide-by-cop-attemptBut you posted this.
https://www.kptv.com/2023/09/16/10-charged-trafficking-sting-1-man-agreed-buy-sex-cop-posing-teen-portland-police/
https://www.kptv.com/2023/09/16/10-charged-trafficking-sting-1-man-agreed-buy-sex-cop-posing-teen-portland-police/On TV said officers posed as "trafficked individuals". Zero arrests for trafficking. As usual.
Edit - I guess one guy thought the decoy was 15?
I'm going to go out on a limb and say Samantha Bergren?Piperlovesu.
On TV said officers posed as "trafficked individuals". Zero arrests for trafficking. As usual.
Edit - I guess one guy thought the decoy was 15?Glock 19 x. Excellent choice. Chuckled at the weird ass leather holster. The one time I wore a holstered gun to a visit with a provider, she kind of cracked up after I said "ok, so I am not a cop. ". LOL.
On TV said officers posed as "trafficked individuals". Zero arrests for trafficking. As usual.
Edit - I guess one guy thought the decoy was 15?
On TV said officers posed as "trafficked individuals". Zero arrests for trafficking. As usual.
Edit - I guess one guy thought the decoy was 15?"Trafficked individuals" is suck a loaded term for the reporter to use. That isn't who we're looking for, though some of them might be mixed in with our search results. What we're searching for are ladies who spread their legs for a paycheck. Still technically on the wrong side of the tracks, but we're not that depraved a group.
He'll probably get the commercial sexual solicitation to stick, but I'm hoping he can find a technicality to wiggle out of the sex with a minor charge. Technically, "officer posing as a child" does count the same as the actual child, and it will still get you on the pedo list. Personally, I consider this whole thing as entrapment, as the guy looking for love doesn't necessarily look at the given age of the "person" who's posting, just if the pic and the price piques his interest. Also, the age of the individual pictured isn't always apparent as being a minor (for example, Keira Knightly from Pirates of the Caribbean was underage, so anyone spanking to that is technically a pedo). I can also see the cops be unscrupulous in a planted-evidence sort of way; for example, they did not disclose an age in the ad, and only upon meeting and paying they pull out a fake I'd saying they're still in high school, then reveal they're actually cops arresting you for soliciting a minor.
If that ruling is true, though, then a child that's seriously posing as an adult should be treated as an adult, same as the adult posing as a child is treated as a child.
For the record, I'm not condoning sleeping with kids, just pointing out the double-standard they're trying to impose.
EoCowbooy 1
09-18-23, 15:23
"Trafficked individuals" is suck a loaded term for the reporter to use. That isn't who we're looking for, though some of them might be mixed in with our search results. What we're searching for are ladies who spread their legs for a paycheck. Still technically on the wrong side of the tracks, but we're not that depraved a group.
He'll probably get the commercial sexual solicitation to stick, but I'm hoping he can find a technicality to wiggle out of the sex with a minor charge. Technically, "officer posing as a child" does count the same as the actual child, and it will still get you on the pedo list. Personally, I consider this whole thing as entrapment, as the guy looking for love doesn't necessarily look at the given age of the "person" who's posting, just if the pic and the price piques his interest. Also, the age of the individual pictured isn't always apparent as being a minor (for example, Keira Knightly from Pirates of the Caribbean was underage, so anyone spanking to that is technically a pedo). I can also see the cops be unscrupulous in a planted-evidence sort of way; for example, they did not disclose an age in the ad, and only upon meeting and paying they pull out a fake I'd saying they're still in high school, then reveal they're actually cops arresting you for soliciting a minor.
If that ruling is true, though, then a child that's seriously posing as an adult should be treated as an adult, same as the adult posing as a child is treated as a child..I guess I'm wondering, "If they are posing as a minor, but aren't a Minor, then the guy wasn't really soliciting a Minor. Unless he was part of a conversation where she mentioned or represented herself as one?
In case you didn't know, the reason that there has been increased stings in Portland is because of the six girls' bodies that were found earlier this year. From what I've heard, they were all being trafficked or pimped. With the elevated Mexican gang presence + the huge amounts of homeless in the area, there is no shortage of young, desperate women out there who are being taken advantage of by some truly evil a-holes.
I'm currently not seeing any provider I haven't seen before and definitely not driving the blade for it, although that was never my thing anyway. What I'm saying is be extra careful out there.
In case you didn't know, the reason that there has been increased stings in Portland is because of the six girls' bodies that were found earlier this year. From what I've heard, they were all being trafficked or pimped. With the elevated Mexican gang presence + the huge amounts of homeless in the area, there is no shortage of young, desperate women out there who are being taken advantage of by some truly evil a-holes.
I'm currently not seeing any provider I haven't seen before and definitely not driving the blade for it, although that was never my thing anyway. What I'm saying is be extra careful out there.Why would they need to do stings. Just walk up to the women and offer help and get info from them. What good does the sting do?
This is same as it ever was. They get federal money to spend on "human trafficking". They pay some cops OT to do the stings. They give 10-15 guys misdemeanor tickets for soliciting. They alert the media they did a "human trafficking" sting. The media gobbles it up. Also since the lawlessness in Portland the ladies have become more brazen and the pickups more open. I'm sure they are getting some complaints from the neighbors. This isn't new with the recent murders. It's been happening for a long time.
If they really gave a shit about trafficking, they'd stop it tag the southern boarder.
I’m not a street guy. I’ve never actually done it. Too risky for me for many reasons.
Why would they need to do stings. Just walk up to the women and offer help and get info from them. What good does the sting do?
This is same as it ever was. They get federal money to spend on "human trafficking". They pay some cops OT to do the stings. They give 10-15 guys misdemeanor tickets for soliciting. They alert the media they did a "human trafficking" sting. The media gobbles it up. Also since the lawlessness in Portland the ladies have become more brazen and the pickups more open. I'm sure they are getting some complaints from the neighbors. This isn't new with the recent murders. It's been happening for a long time.
If they really gave a shit about trafficking, they'd stop it tag the southern boarder.
Im not a street guy. Ive never actually done it. Too risky for me for many reasons.Well that was an odd response. I'm not the enemy, I'm just telling letting people know that they are increasing stings.
My source? I know several cops and federal agents, as well as people in the city and three counties. The six womens' bodies that were found, supposedly, are the tip of the iceberg. Many, many more 20-25 year old women are missing.
First of all, women who ARE trafficked aren't going to just admit to it and get help by some cop coming up to them. These women are involved with some very evil mf'rs and if they cross them, they could easily end up off the side of the river just like those other women did. It's real, and it's happening. Just because you partake in the hobby doesn't mean you're not involved in a game that doesn't have some messed up things happening around it.
Secondly, they don't grab some random cops, pay them OT, and have them bust hobbyists. PPB has a dedicated human trafficking division, although it is only a few cops doing it. They expect arrests, so they arrest people. They are increasing stings because there is concern, especially with the significant emergence of cartel involvement in Portland, that there is a whole swath of vulnerable women being victimized.
Thirdly. Obviously since I partake in this hobby, I have zero judgement about people partaking in it. If you haven't noticed, there have been increased stings. I had some important information to relay regarding it, so I thought I would. My post was 100% about keeping hobbyists from having the worst day of their lives. It had zero to do with judging hobbyists or making anyone wrong.
TiedYed2112
09-19-23, 00:46
If they really gave a shit about trafficking, they'd stop it tag the southern boarder.That is cute that you think trafficking is a southern border issue.
That is cute that you think trafficking is a southern border issue.I didn't say it was the only issue. My point is focusing on some guys trying to get a BJ on 82nd in Portland isn't getting to the root of the problem.
Well that was an odd response. I'm not the enemy, I'm just telling letting people know that they are increasing stings.
My source? I know several cops and federal agents, as well as people in the city and three counties. The six womens' bodies that were found, supposedly, are the tip of the iceberg. Many, many more 20-25 year old women are missing.
First of all, women who ARE trafficked aren't going to just admit to it and get help by some cop coming up to them. These women are involved with some very evil mf'rs and if they cross them, they could easily end up off the side of the river just like those other women did. It's real, and it's happening. Just because you partake in the hobby doesn't mean you're not involved in a game that doesn't have some messed up things happening around it.
Secondly, they don't grab some random cops, pay them OT, and have them bust hobbyists. PPB has a dedicated human trafficking division, although it is only a few cops doing it. They expect arrests, so they arrest people. They are increasing stings because there is concern, especially with the significant emergence of cartel involvement in Portland, that there is a whole swath of vulnerable women being victimized.
Thirdly. Obviously since I partake in this hobby, I have zero judgement about people partaking in it. If you haven't noticed, there have been increased stings. I had some important information to relay regarding it, so I thought I would. My post was 100% about keeping hobbyists from having the worst day of their lives. It had zero to do with judging hobbyists or making anyone wrong.My point was that these stings aren't specifically because a possible serial killer. These have been happening long before that.
I know there is a human tracking division. Like all of the special task forces or divisions the cops on them are not 100% dedicated to that. I know PPB and Mult Co cops. They are all on multiple special units. And yes, the frequently do these on OT. You hit it on the head when you said "the expect arrests". The have to have them in order to justify the funding. When you read the stories it's very rare that someone is ever charged with trafficking. And it's rare that someone was rescued from trafficking. It normal hooker / John interactions that have been happening since Portland was a place.
You're point is and intent are well taken and wise, regardless of why there are stings, they do exist. If you play in that area be very careful. Read the streetwalker forum here. Think with the big head. Be discrete. If you do get scooped up, shut up. Nothing you say will help you.
My point was that these stings aren't specifically because a possible serial killer. These have been happening long before that.
I know there is a human tracking division. Like all of the special task forces or divisions the cops on them are not 100% dedicated to that. I know PPB and Mult Co cops. They are all on multiple special units. And yes, the frequently do these on OT. You hit it on the head when you said "the expect arrests". The have to have them in order to justify the funding. When you read the stories it's very rare that someone is ever charged with trafficking. And it's rare that someone was rescued from trafficking. It normal hooker / John interactions that have been happening since Portland was a place.
You're point is and intent are well taken and wise, regardless of why there are stings, they do exist. If you play in that area be very careful. Read the streetwalker forum here. Think with the big head. Be discrete. If you do get scooped up, shut up. Nothing you say will help you.I do agree with you that these stings for the vast majority are for regular hooker / John interactions, and that really, they don't stop actual trafficking at all. It's like everything with the government in Portland, it's all for show with zero actual effectiveness.
DanceMania
09-24-23, 06:36
http://multnomah.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?View_id=3&clip_id=345&meta_id=21300
Viewed the live court hearings this past week, and both men participated by telephone (one with a Spanish interpreter). They were likely advised by their attorneys that they had no chance of winning an acquittal at trial because they confessed to a sex for money deal to intimidating cops in the "separate & interrogate" operation conducted that night.
They have 6 months to attend this one-sided brainwashing class Portland has been running since the early '10's, and one man at least was threatened with 5 days in jail if he fails to comply. 5 more cases from Jul 13 are still proceeding through the court system, and I'll report if there are any different outcomes or if anything else can be gleaned about police strategy that night.
Here is another sting by the PPD.
https://www.kptv.com/app/2023/09/26/12-arrested-portland-sex-trafficking-bust/
HankChristine
09-27-23, 12:54
Here is another sting by the PPD.
https://www.kptv.com/app/2023/09/26/12-arrested-portland-sex-trafficking-bust/The pictures of 82nd are nice and sharp. Couple of tight hot bods showing, not sure that was the intent.
The pictures of 82nd are nice and sharp. Couple of tight hot bods showing, not sure that was the intent.The number or trafficking arrests remains at zero.
DanceMania
09-28-23, 08:51
Here is another sting by the PPD.
https://www.kptv.com/app/2023/09/26/12-arrested-portland-sex-trafficking-bust/Thanks for that link. It looks like this crackdown was on Sep 19, and was another "separate & interrogate" operation conducted on or around NE 82nd Ave like the Jul 13 one I've been posting about. The video Fox 12 posted at the bottom is pure propaganda from the Portland Police Bureau (complete with heart-tugging music) about how all these women are "victims" in need of salvation by cops and various social-service parasites (including worn-out hos who can no longer command top dollar), and the johns are the root cause of the problem and need to be sternly dealt with by the criminal justice system.
As a semi-retired john who screwed 100-200 street hookers in Vancouver BC starting way back in the mid 1980's, I can say most SWs are closer to the dictionary definition of "predator" than "victim". They often work with thuggish males to scam money out of men without providing sex. Legalization would reduce the nastiness on all sides of the sex trade, but these prohibitionists who seem to be on a power trip of lording over other's sex lives just make the whole scene more dangerous and corrupt for everyone involved. For more alternative views of the prostitution issue in Portland, see these links:
https://www.courthousenews.com/sex-workers-in-oregon-call-for-an-End-to-police-stings-officials-signal-support/
https://www.wweek.com/news/2021/10/20/portland-polices-human-trafficking-arrests-arent-what-they-seem/
LazenBy007
10-09-23, 14:47
https://katu.com/news/local/seven-arrested-in-milwaukie-human-trafficking-sting-repeat-offender-caught-twice#.
This time in Milwaukie. Saw a couple TGTBT ads in that area last week on Listcrawler. Never any actual nudity in the way too good looking pics, and over use of emoji.
PdxHobbiest
10-09-23, 16:30
https://katu.com/news/local/seven-arrested-in-milwaukie-human-trafficking-sting-repeat-offender-caught-twice#.
This time in Milwaukie. Saw a couple TGTBT ads in that area last week on Listcrawler. Never any actual nudity in the way too good looking pics, and over use of emoji.All while shootings and fentanyl continue to run rampant and they say they don't have enough staff to cover it all. Portland is such a joke.
All while shootings and fentanyl continue to run rampant and they say they don't have enough staff to cover it all. Portland is such a joke.No real crime in Milwaukie- hence this BS.
But the guy who got popped twice in the same day? Hard to sympathize.
DanceMania
10-21-23, 17:32
Bought another $12 police report from the Portland Police Bureau from the Jul 13 "separate & interrogate" operation around NE 82nd Ave that was widely reported in the media, but USASG apparently doesn't want me linking to those pdf reports again despite the fact they're public record and on my personal web page hosted by a US web host -- so it's inconceivable to me how USASG could somehow be held liable.
Anyway, after studying 2 of these Jul 13 PPB reports and viewing several court hearings of the busted johns, it's becoming clear they're only catching and prosecuting the easy, low-lying fruit in these type of non-sting street operations: guys who are so intimidated by police that they immediately confess on the spot in the mistaken belief the cops and legal system will go easy on them. I'll report here again on this topic if I learn of any significant deviation from this pattern or if any cases go all the way to trial.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/08/politics/high-end-brothel-network-arrests/index.html
I copied this from the Vegas board. All these professionals providing personal info LOL.
WarpFactor69
11-08-23, 16:43
Bought another $12 police report from the Portland Police Bureau from the Jul 13 "separate & interrogate" operation around NE 82nd Ave that was widely reported in the media, but USASG apparently doesn't want me linking to those pdf reports again despite the fact they're public record and on my personal web page hosted by a US web host -- so it's inconceivable to me how USASG could somehow be held liable.
Anyway, after studying 2 of these Jul 13 PPB reports and viewing several court hearings of the busted johns, it's becoming clear they're only catching and prosecuting the easy, low-lying fruit in these type of non-sting street operations: guys who are so intimidated by police that they immediately confess on the spot in the mistaken belief the cops and legal system will go easy on them. I'll report here again on this topic if I learn of any significant deviation from this pattern or if any cases go all the way to trial.SURPRISE! No 15 year Olds were rescued. No trafficking victims were saved. Only consenting adults were harassed. Keep up the good work guys.
Bobby ShafToe
11-08-23, 21:13
https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/08/politics/high-end-brothel-network-arrests/index.html
I copied this from the Vegas board. All these professionals providing personal info LOL.This is why I don't provide this kind of information for screening. Dudes doing this are idiots.
RockyRococo
11-16-23, 02:07
There was a story about that on the evening news last night and even my wife (who knows nothing about the hobby) commented: Why would anyone engaging in illegal activity tell someone all their personal info.
There was a story about that on the evening news last night and even my wife (who knows nothing about the hobby) commented: Why would anyone engaging in illegal activity tell someone all their personal info.I've been tempted for a second when the little head was doing the thinking, but I scratch my head when I see providers requesting a photo I'd or work I'd for screening. I get that they need to protect themselves but uh yea I'm not doing that. I don't even meet up with my wallet or I'd on me.
HankChristine
11-17-23, 10:57
I've been tempted for a second when the little head was doing the thinking, but I scratch my head when I see providers requesting a photo I'd or work I'd for screening. I get that they need to protect themselves but uh yea I'm not doing that. I don't even meet up with my wallet or I'd on me.Exactly. I use a burner phone app to do my texting and I don't bring more than cash for the transaction and a car key with me. No wallet, no ring, no watch.
RamblinJavlin
02-09-24, 02:44
https://www.kgw.com/article/news/crime/human-trafficking-lake-oswego-massage-business-arrest-flora-spa/283-83eb9192-c737-448c-82e2-683c42e42d6a
https://www.kgw.com/article/news/crime/human-trafficking-lake-oswego-massage-business-arrest-flora-spa/283-83eb9192-c737-448c-82e2-683c42e42d6aOk, so.
Are they actually trafficked? Some are, some aren't?
Some seem like they are their own person, moving about from shop to shop, though I've gotten odd vibes in the past from others as far as "Oh, I can't leave", when I tried to setup something outside the shop (before I learned it never really works out).
Some gals I've talked to about it (IE, TNA providers) insist its all trafficked / unwilling participants. Just curious if anyone has any thoughts / facts / secret knowledge to share.
Ok, so.
Are they actually trafficked? Some are, some aren't?
Some seem like they are their own person, moving about from shop to shop, though I've gotten odd vibes in the past from others as far as "Oh, I can't leave", when I tried to setup something outside the shop (before I learned it never really works out).
Some gals I've talked to about it (IE, TNA providers) insist its all trafficked / unwilling participants. Just curious if anyone has any thoughts / facts / secret knowledge to share.I don't have any special knowledge, but know they live there and don't speak much English, so seems like a set up for that, compared to an escort in her home or apartment. Also, one time I was going to go in an AMP and before I did, a white guy in a truck drove up, went in, and came out a few minutes later with an asian woman pulling a roller bag. They got in and drove off. So what was that and where was she going. I just think its far riskier than a regular you know.
WarpFactor69
02-09-24, 17:24
Ok, so.
Are they actually trafficked? Some are, some aren't?
Some seem like they are their own person, moving about from shop to shop, though I've gotten odd vibes in the past from others as far as "Oh, I can't leave", when I tried to setup something outside the shop (before I learned it never really works out).
Some gals I've talked to about it (IE, TNA providers) insist its all trafficked / unwilling participants. Just curious if anyone has any thoughts / facts / secret knowledge to share.Not forced to be there, they have a boss, but they are not working against their own will.
You can do an internet search using words similar to:
Are Asian massage workers trafficked fact check.
WarpFactor69
02-09-24, 17:34
Don't know what's going on but lately if I want to add additional comments I cannot scroll to the bottom of my last few words to add a new sentence, using the edit feature.
I wanted to add, consider the reasons that higher priced escorts would want you to believe negative things about AMP girls, and try to discourage you from giving them your business.
WarpFactor69
02-09-24, 17:39
I don't have any special knowledge, but know they live there and don't speak much English, so seems like a set up for that, compared to an escort in her home or apartment. Also, one time I was going to go in an AMP and before I did, a white guy in a truck drove up, went in, and came out a few minutes later with an asian woman pulling a roller bag. They got in and drove off. So what was that and where was she going. I just think its far riskier than a regular you know.Just like strippers, sometimes the girls go home with their customers at the end of their shift.
Don't know what's going on but lately if I want to add additional comments I cannot scroll to the bottom of my last few words to add a new sentence, using the edit feature.
I wanted to add, consider the reasons that higher priced escorts would want you to believe negative things about AMP girls, and try to discourage you from giving them your business.The TNA hookers just want to bad mouth their competitors. Same with BBFS. They act all up in arms over it, but more than half will let you cream pie them.
Not forced to be there, they have a boss, but they are not working against their own will.
You can do an internet search using words similar to:
Are Asian massage workers trafficked fact check.I have never met a provider at an AMP or AAMP that was not there on their own free will. They can come and go as they please, many have set up their own shops. They do have a boss just like the rest of us.
Many of us have gone out with a provider for a drink or dinner, no one stopped them.
I think TNA has too much influence on this board and I could care less what any provider has to say on that board.
I have never met a provider at an AMP or AAMP that was not there on their own free will. They can come and go as they please, many have set up their own shops. They do have a boss just like the rest of us.
Many of us have gone out with a provider for a drink or dinner, no one stopped them.
I think TNA has too much influence on this board and I could care less what any provider has to say on that board.I mean, over there they say it for obvious reason. Is good for their business when AMPs close.
However, let's not pretend that actual trafficking doesn't happen at these parlors. We may encounter women who are willing and happy to do it, but at the same time there are many that are working there to pay off debts or just straight up being trafficked. So let's not pretend the issue doesn't exist.
WarpFactor69
02-09-24, 21:55
...or just straight up being trafficked. So let's not pretend the issue doesn't exist.This is false information. But I would be interested to read any hard proof that you have, that this is happening locally (OR / WA).
Agree with your first paragraph explaining that escorts are opposed to amps.
But don't believe the media/ L.E./ Hollywood hype concerning the women being forced. They chose to come here. When these places get busted, it is not a rescue, they are interfering with consenting adults.
We may encounter women who are willing and happy to do it, but at the same time there are many that are working there to pay off debts or just straight up being trafficked. So let's not pretend the issue doesn't exist.The only one pretending is you.
Don't know what's going on but lately if I want to add additional comments I cannot scroll to the bottom of my last few words to add a new sentence, using the edit feature.
I wanted to add, consider the reasons that higher priced escorts would want you to believe negative things about AMP girls, and try to discourage you from giving them your business.Fair point.
This is false information. But I would be interested to read any hard proof that you have, that this is happening locally (OR / WA).
Agree with your first paragraph explaining that escorts are opposed to amps.
But don't believe the media/ L.E./ Hollywood hype concerning the women being forced. They chose to come here. When these places get busted, it is not a rescue, they are interfering with consenting adults.You see trafficking mentioned during busts, as was done during the L. O. Bust, but no trafficking charges were made. Just promoting prostitution and that will definitely stick due to how the idiot owners advertise.
The shops I know of, many are just one woman operations. The owner holds the lease and gets the house fee. The woman keeps all the tips. The one woman who. Works at each of these shops has been there for years. Most aren't making big money but make enough to send home to family. They live in the shop because it's free.
If there was just some amount of common sense used no one would complain. But the idiot AMP owners will put parlors every 100 yards, run explicit ads, and put a parlor in a neighborhood. Exactly what happened at Mei Mei in Vancouver. Those ladies don't do FS, but the owner ran the fake ad with explicit serial references. Of course the neighborhood ladies lost their minds on NextDoor.
I have no sympathy for the shop owners. Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered. These idiots are their own worst enemies.
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