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  1. #13615

    Wagyu vs hairyducks tournament game

    Quote Originally Posted by Ewe52  [View Original Post]
    I'm not sure why you feel you have the inside scoop on anything. Every shop is pushing for Jgirls now because the volume of clients they bring. Which shop is making more with Cgirls than Jgirls today? And Chinese nationalist favoritism, give me a break sounds like some racist shit you're implying. Show me on the doll where the bad Chinese lady touched you.

    Now for others, Jgirls are charged less than cgirls at shops because shops realize jgirls have higher overhead. Usually about 100/360-400. Many show up without agencies so the cut is greater for the girls. And yes they tend to charge or be firm with upgrades. Not factoring in upgrades jgirls cuts tend to hover around 60%-65% with upgrades then its 70-80% if they are getting 50% or less then they broke even.

    You can troll me all you want, but this bad simp logic is the reason you're struggling paying for 30 minutes sessions and trying to squeeze into baby sized Japanese condoms. Glad you're not my accountant.
    IMHO, this seems to be as accurate it can be besides involving in the business itself cas its something majority of the public won't have any insight unless they in the business themselves or have the background / exp to back it up. In general, most wagyus can overpower a lot of hairyducks in terms of volume with a few exceptions, but Chinese abalones with premium calibers are rare nowadays and wagyus are slowly swarming up the map LOL.

  2. #13614
    Senior Member


    Posts: 472
    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenKid  [View Original Post]
    LOL. Just hit the ignore button and move on. Life is too short to engage in forum wars.
    Simps got to do what a simps got to do LMFAO.

  3. #13613
    Quote Originally Posted by JavLuvr  [View Original Post]
    Not sure why you feel the need to discredit other posters who are just trying to share some useful intel. As usual, I see you're posting a lot of cringey shit, starting drama over nothing and deleting your posts.
    LOL. Just hit the ignore button and move on. Life is too short to engage in forum wars.

  4. #13612
    Quote Originally Posted by Lasoo  [View Original Post]
    Guess Meg decided to stay a little longer? She had originally told me and a few other people that she was leaving today, anyone know if she moved her return date to Japan? I'm thinking of seeing her again but it would be my fourth time. Want to cum in someone else before cumming in Meg again one last time.
    Yup, you have one more week. She'll be leaving on 11/10 now. She is freezing her ass off but the work and money has been very good.

  5. #13611
    Senior Member


    Posts: 472

    All about the volume folks

    Quote Originally Posted by JavLuvr  [View Original Post]
    The split GD mentioned is consistent with what I've seen for C-girls in Manhattan. $120/340 is a roughly 35% cut for the house. Japanese girls will have an agent too so that's another 10% or about $30 bucks for the agent. Now we're looking at about a 45% cut for the house / agent. That's pretty damn close to 50%, is it not? Chinese girls also tend to get most favored nation treatment from these Chinese operated shops, and I'm quite sure they keep a higher percentage than the J-girls, even putting the agents cut aside. Shops are more inclined to work with C-girls on the split, especially since they tend to stay long term.

    Japanese girls usually charge about 20,000 yen per hour in Japan ($120 USD). At a more high end Soaplands they might charge closer to 40,000 yen per hour ($260 USD) but they still have to give the house at least 30% in Japan. Tips for video and BBFS are usually pretty small in Japan, maybe another 10,000 yen max. So even with the near 50% split they're still making more money in the US per session than in Japan. Not to mention the big tips they get for extras here. If someone buys an hour for $340 and tips $100-200 for BB or video, the girl makes at least double what she would for an hour of work in Japan.

    Not sure why you feel the need to discredit other posters who are just trying to share some useful intel. As usual, I see you're posting a lot of cringey shit, starting drama over nothing and deleting your posts. You like to try and present yourself as the guy with the inside scoop but your intel is just not good LOL.
    I'm not sure why you feel you have the inside scoop on anything. Every shop is pushing for Jgirls now because the volume of clients they bring. Which shop is making more with Cgirls than Jgirls today? And Chinese nationalist favoritism, give me a break sounds like some racist shit you're implying. Show me on the doll where the bad Chinese lady touched you.

    Now for others, Jgirls are charged less than cgirls at shops because shops realize jgirls have higher overhead. Usually about 100/360-400. Many show up without agencies so the cut is greater for the girls. And yes they tend to charge or be firm with upgrades. Not factoring in upgrades jgirls cuts tend to hover around 60%-65% with upgrades then its 70-80% if they are getting 50% or less then they broke even.

    You can troll me all you want, but this bad simp logic is the reason you're struggling paying for 30 minutes sessions and trying to squeeze into baby sized Japanese condoms. Glad you're not my accountant.

  6. #13610
    Quote Originally Posted by JavLuvr  [View Original Post]
    The split GD mentioned is consistent with what I've seen for C-girls in Manhattan. $120/340 is a roughly 35% cut for the house. Japanese girls will have an agent too so that's another 10% or about $30 bucks for the agent. Now we're looking at about a 45% cut for the house / agent. That's pretty damn close to 50%, is it not? Chinese girls also tend to get most favored nation treatment from these Chinese operated shops, and I'm quite sure they keep a higher percentage than the J-girls, even putting the agents cut aside. Shops are more inclined to work with C-girls on the split, especially since they tend to stay long term.

    Japanese girls usually charge about 20,000 yen per hour in Japan ($120 USD). At a more high end Soaplands they might charge closer to 40,000 yen per hour ($260 USD) but they still have to give the house at least 30% in Japan. Tips for video and BBFS are usually pretty small in Japan, maybe another 10,000 yen max. So even with the near 50% split they're still making more money in the US per session than in Japan. Not to mention the big tips they get for extras here. If someone buys an hour for $340 and tips $100-200 for BB the girl makes at least double what she would for an hour of work in Japan.

    Not sure why you feel the need to discredit other posters who are just trying to share some useful intel. As usual, I see you're posting a lot of cringey shit and starting drama over nothing. You like to try and present yourself as the guy with the inside scoop, but your intel is just not good LOL.
    It's good to know what a girl makes. I get a bigger kick knowing what a girl is not making because I dropped them from my rotation LOL. I visit mid-afternoon when it is usually not busy so my time slot is not likely taken up by another monger.

  7. #13609
    Quote Originally Posted by VidLover69  [View Original Post]
    Aoi at Xoxo might be your next best choice. When I saw her in the spring, she was firm MSRP on extras (for each) but she also wasn't camera shy. BTW, don't shine a light in her face when you are shooting POV BBBJ. This way, she'll look into your POV camera while giving the BBBJ and playing with jr. Very few girls actually do this and Aoi is one of them. Looks damn hot on the replay.
    Trying to verify at Xoxo. They replied ok then went radio silent. I pinged them and hour after but nothing. I'll try again tomorrow if no word.

  8. #13608

    Just do the math

    Quote Originally Posted by GenghisDong  [View Original Post]
    340 girls (Chinese) the house keeps like 100-120 in Manhattan. Girls definitely keep most of the money.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ewe52  [View Original Post]
    Yeah I have no idea WTF clowns are yapping about. Its tier pricing broken down by time 1/2'hour 45 min, hour. Doesn't matter if a girl is a 320 or 400 shop keeps the same amount plus room and board fees. Girls set their rates and agencies get a cut if they have an agency to begin with. All extras are pure profit for the girls. Simps needs to stop simping they sound like the chicks yapping now.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ewe52  [View Original Post]
    If shops took anywhere near 50% it's not worth it for girls to come over. With travel cost, agency fees and incidentals. A girl isn't going to trick for 80 bucks profit. Never trust simp logic.
    The split GD mentioned is consistent with what I've seen for C-girls in Manhattan. $120/340 is a roughly 35% cut for the house. Japanese girls will have an agent too so that's another 10% or about $30 bucks for the agent. Now we're looking at about a 45% cut for the house / agent. That's pretty damn close to 50%, is it not? Chinese girls also tend to get most favored nation treatment from these Chinese operated shops, and I'm quite sure they keep a higher percentage than the J-girls, even putting the agents cut aside. Shops are more inclined to work with C-girls on the split, especially since they tend to stay long term.

    Japanese girls usually charge about 20,000 yen per hour in Japan ($120 USD). At a more high end Soaplands they might charge closer to 40,000 yen per hour ($260 USD) but they still have to give the house at least 30% in Japan. Tips for video and BBFS are usually pretty small in Japan, maybe another 10,000 yen max. So even with the near 50% split they're still making more money in the US per session than in Japan. Not to mention the big tips they get for extras here. If someone buys an hour for $340 and tips $100-200 for BB or video, the girl makes at least double what she would for an hour of work in Japan.

    Not sure why you feel the need to discredit other posters who are just trying to share some useful intel. As usual, I see you're posting a lot of cringey shit, starting drama over nothing and deleting your posts.

  9. #13607

    Miyu / Snow 1010 Club

    Saw that Snow was coming back as Miyu at 1010 late last night and booked an appointment to see her. I get to the shop and am escorted to her room.

    Face: 8/10.

    The pictures of her are accurate. Her smile is very cute! As it was a bit chilly out, just seeing her smile felt very welcoming to me and warmed me up inside. And she is beautiful in person.

    Body: 9/10.

    She's about 5'2-5'4. Verrrry nice C-cups, maybe small Ds, that felt soft to the touch. Her body looks great and she looks quite fit. She's got a landing strip for those who need to know. It was well trimmed and didn't get in the way of anything or distract at all.

    Service: 9/10 and Attitude: 8/10.

    Meeting her in the room, she started off quiet and timid for the first few minutes but as the session went on Miyu opened up more and became a bit more talkative and flirty. Shower was the typical J-girl shower: light cleaning with very little preview outside of kissing and touching here and there, so at this point I don't hold this against any J-girl as I think it's just standard.

    Back in the room, I laid on the bed and she immediately goes on top of me for some very nice LFK and DFK. Her DFK game, to me, was pretty good! She was receptive when our tongues touched and in my opinion / from my experience, one of the better J-girls at DFK. A little while into it the wonderful kissing fest, she starts playing with with an already hard junior and the boys. She kisses my neck, my chest, my nipples and my stomach as she makes her way down. I let her do her thing. Her BBBJ game was good. I would rate it a little better than average. I usually prefer a sloppier BBBJ but she had good hand, mouth, and tongue work, I felt no teeth, and she kept a good speed throughout. Overall, it felt pretty darn good and kept me hard and interested for more.

    As she was about to mount for CG, I stopped her and laid her down for some DATY. I kept at this for way longer than I expected and intended. Because of this, I didn't get to go into many positions during this session with her. I think I went down on her for a good 15-20 minutes of the session but she was just so damn tasty and she smelled like vanilla! I felt like I was licking at vanilla ice cream at some points. A few moans here, closed eyes there, some eyerolls and body jerks / convulsing every now and again. I think she enjoyed herself as much as I enjoyed going down on her. She kept getting wetter and wetter.

    I start kissing up her body and go in for some DFK as she embraces me with her legs and arms. I engage in some P2 P play as we kiss, then stand up on the side of the bed and slide it in slowly. She's got a tight one. She's not the tightest I have had, but she is pretty tight. We do some standing mish for a while before I go back onto the bed to lean into her more in laying mish so that I could suck on her nipples on those beautiful mounds of hers as I thrust into her. After enjoying the peaks of her mountains, I kiss her neck and start to thrust faster. We DFK and she wraps her legs around me. I let her know I am about to cum and she starts DFK'ing me with more intensity / tongue action and embracing me with her arms and legs harder. I shoot my "3 days of no action" load inside of her. It felt great! We embrace for about 1 or 2 minutes after the act before the alarm goes off and she helps clean me and her up. The alarm is when I realized in my head "Wow I guess I spent a longer time in DATY than I thought. " as I am usually a 2-3 pop guy. I should have booked a 90 minute. I kind of wanted to get another pop out and extend the time, but I had work related obligations to run out to right after the session, so I didn't really even have the option to ask to extend the time. She turned off the alarm and we laid down on the bed for a little bit just to embrace and chat about random things before going for a clean up shower.

  10. #13606
    Quote Originally Posted by LutherBB  [View Original Post]
    Well big tits are the main draw and CIP was just $100 so maybe some of you guys can get it down even lower. Massive melons, lots of Russian including in the shower right away when she lowered herself and basically washed my cock between her soap tits. When I was on the bed, she sucked my dick then gave me more Russian and kissed my cock while my dick was stroked by her tits also. Pussy not terribly tight for me but maybe it's the lube or my dick is just not big enough. I pulled out to wiped my cock down to have less lube and went back in to fill her pussy up!

    Overall, cheap CIP and big tits are the best thing.
    This girl I saw briefly at the lineup at her former shop, how can I describe her. 18-21 yo and THIC body. No rolls on her but big thighs, has a belly but like fat. Muscular fat (Belly, body reminds me of the thick short black girls that wait at the hip-hop dance club a block away from my place.

    Same girl?

  11. #13605
    Quote Originally Posted by CreaminThePie  [View Original Post]
    https://risingsun8.com/view/290

    You were saying? She coulda been had for 140/30 m LOL.

    She's at r8 now we all missed our chance to bang for cheap haha.
    I guess there is a tree for every bird. I passed on her, too thick for my taste.

  12. #13604
    Quote Originally Posted by Ewe52  [View Original Post]
    I think Tami is ready, despite jet lag. She literally texted all her loyal fan base she's arriving and ready to work before the shop even knew she was coming. That's some real early bird shit LOL.
    Every time someone says "X gave me her wechat / number" I am like, yeah, so she can text you that she misses you when business is slow. That is how I got started on WeChat.

  13. #13603

    Yukiko r8

    Quote Originally Posted by LutherBB  [View Original Post]
    Well big tits are the main draw and CIP was just $100 so maybe some of you guys can get it down even lower. Massive melons, lots of Russian including in the shower right away when she lowered herself and basically washed my cock between her soap tits. When I was on the bed, she sucked my dick then gave me more Russian and kissed my cock while my dick was stroked by her tits also. Pussy not terribly tight for me but maybe it's the lube or my dick is just not big enough. I pulled out to wiped my cock down to have less lube and went back in to fill her pussy up!

    Overall, cheap CIP and big tits are the best thing.
    Her overall menu doesn't sound bad esp not firmy on cip gig which is a plus. She can easily be a keeper down the road assuming she's not jaded LOL.

  14. #13602
    Senior Member


    Posts: 472
    Quote Originally Posted by IronClad999  [View Original Post]
    Go ask the girls, this is the situation where big ass YMMV kicks in (iykyk). While she may have jet lags, but she's still seeing a few here and there but not exactly burned out. And who knows what she was doing prior to flying out to NYC. My point was its up to the girls; not from certain peeps here to determine when she's arriving (unless that person is her personal assistant / boss / shill / simp), PERIOD. Re-read the post again jedi. I was replying to ewe's post.
    I think Tami is ready, despite jet lag. She literally texted all her loyal fan base she's arriving and ready to work before the shop even knew she was coming. That's some real early bird shit LOL.

  15. #13601
    Senior Member


    Posts: 472
    Quote Originally Posted by IronClad999  [View Original Post]
    Yup, in full concurrence with you my homie:

    TL; DR (yes its long, bear with it or tear up the greenies LOL);.

    After checking out miona same day, mariko was lonely from early noon til dinner time so I decided to test her waters based on the popular reps she's gained. Curtailed synopsis:

    -the new pics with her in black bunny ears are 90-95% her in terms of accuracy. She's a lot more slimmer / skinnier in person and has a rabbit voice (naughty flirty pussycat tone; I can see why most iron boys are infatuated with her LOL). Natural soft B-C's but not saggy nor firm (medium rare with plenty of milks for nourish game). Fully shaven kitty about 68-70% tight (I was expecting premium pussy since she's known to be firmy 200 cip with no budge). Just about right amount of meats on her double buns near greek area for fondle and nurturing game.

    -asked donation upfront but pretty polite so no beef. At first hhr game cas she's having a pop up quiz from me. She's better at flipping greenies than half of the wagyus in town LOL. Quick shower with few teasing game after the room greetings. Her skin is very white like bleached with tofu LOL. Lfk dfk lemon peasy with no greasy; she has pretty decent GFE vibes and enjoys using BBBJ / HJ combo (no dt but she knows her strength around the ironman; could tell based on her exp and skills).

    -while cuddling, it seems she checked most of the boxes that exceeds the average wagyu (not the dudy ones), her eng game is mod conversational / competitive vs other wagyus. Likes to giggle / laugh to match our humor vibes. I decided to give her a mini queens promotion from hhr to 45 minutes. She was playing with her phone at that time while waiting for me to give bookers heads up on the extension game.

    -she's pretty warmed up at this point and while I'm fully aware she's mrsp cip gig based on the folks here, I let her demonstrate more skills on BBBJ and then when she's ready to play "connect more" aka "banging game" LOL, she didn't even bother asking about rubber or option and bypassed it prob cas she knows I won't take any bs on upcharge games, I told her to grab mine. She smoothly patched the 001 on with her oral skills, then hopped on exercising her full CG powers for a few minutes before we rotate with my turn on super marikomadbullbang001 LOLOL. This lasted over 12 minutes cas I couldn't pop on MISH after her CG style. She was also holding the base of the ironman to avoid the rubber from slipping inside / off the pussy. It felt like her pussy got way looser as we tabbed MISH-bang continuously and while fondling and sampling her natural B / C's, her sexy dfk has no odor prob cas she was using chapsticks in between lfk time to time.

    -after a few more karatebangs on her loosy pussy (more like 66% cas she did prelube a bit before advancing the rubber), the rubber was already halfway off when she tried to grip it / cockblock in MISH, while continuing the deed cas she was locking me with her hands around my back and her legs like a spiderlady, the juices released inevitably but I couldn't stop cas she had her limbs around me tight while moaning like a rabbit (those bunny ears does match her vibes LOL). It seemed she was interested in MSOG at this point so I kept piledriving more wagyu yoga game after the 1st shot without pulling out, soon after about a few more minutes (7-9), the tank released another set of coconut juice. We were both sweating like burning hotdogs at a camp. She still didn't let go of my body with those spidey limbs LOL; I slowly pulled out ironman like playing matrix; surprisingly the rubber was jammed inside her with the juices, and my ironman has no cover LOLOL (some juices leaked out of her pussy; basically freebie CIP). Mariko was curious why I pulled out and assumed I didn't pop when it was very obvious cas she pulled the rubber out herself and tossed it (rubber has small fragments of juice but most of it was inside her pussy and still leaked a bit). She noticed it but didn't seem to care. I was shocked cas she literally gave me golden ezpass on freebie CIP knowing that my juices were jammed in with the rubber inside the dungeon and yet she didn't care and kept playing BBBJ / HJ combo while having me laid back down so she kept performing msog duties despite its obvious that the juices are exposed. Maybe her lonelyness got melted when I saw her after miona cas marikos room is literally right across mionas old room next to the tiny narrow standing shower with white interface. I was totally surprised she didn't bother nor react to the CIP when rubber with juice was jammed inside her (it was hard to tell the rubber was off while MISH-bang cas its 001, but as I slowly pulled out the rubber was trapped inside and juices leaking slowly and whole ironman was in her along with the tip of head squirting more juices). Her pussy is also really hollow on top of being loosy; most peeps can't tell but she might actually had hysterectomy done before which contributed to hollow mariko LOL. The hollow / loosy pussy prob made her not care about the CIP, who knows.

    -after the session, despite being 45 minutes it was pretty long and no rushy at all cas she seems very adapted to the game. She briefly said she wants to see me again cas I'm funny and she likes the humor game LOL. She vaguely mentioned she might tour chicago after 1010, and return either early or near end of December while asking me to see her again. Bon voyage, even though CIP game wasnt expected, but prob unlikely to repeat cas pussys super hollow LOL.

    #flappybirdsbowlingballgameLOL.

    P.S.: it seems like its confirmed that there are many simps / shills often spoiling the chicks into upcharging full mrsp and a few of them are over-tipping / paying the chicks extremely well and then spreads false sht online about discounted / freebie cip (you know who you are, don't insult our intelligence) IMHO, they are full of balonies cas it happens often whenever we check the chicks after them, the girls are a lot more challenging to melt on CIP / discounts cas they are spoiled by the credentialed seniors here that spreads false info and plays 2 sided face; dress extremely well attire to impress the chicks and over tips them on first visit, then post back online about freebie / discounts which doesn't corresponds to the logical events that the chick got jaded a lot faster after they saw the girls. From now on, I don't believe a fking crap anything they say cas its obviously fake af, we are adults so stop trying to blame it on YMMV factor; theres nothing more logical to explain than chicks being jaded after being overtipped from sneaky jerks that ruins the market up making our session hunts a lot more fked up than it already is.
    Sometimes girls click with you so well if the hat busted they don't want you to stop giving them the good stuff just to redress. Nicely done to melt Mariko's heart IC.

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